Comments on: Jane Harman: Stupid and Reckless, Not the Victim of Illegal Wiretaps

By: 4jkb4ia

4jkb4ia — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:02:20 +0000

What a charm offensive.

By: Leen

Leen — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:04:55 +0000

“this conversatin does’nt exist” has worked before

By: Leen

Leen — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:03:31 +0000

I thought those wiretaps started way back in 97 or 98 during the Clinton administration? I have read they were looking for someone or into the companies that had re WIRED THE White House. (Abramoff contracts or something like that) Were Amdocs/Comverse Infosys/Verint involved or under investigation during this time?

By: skippy

skippy — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:38:43 +0000

yeah when this first broke i was doubly, even triply, bummed that marcy winograd didn’t make it all the way.

especially on the shores.

you know, the shores of triply.

By: jawbone

jawbone — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:41:40 +0000

At this point, do we really know who Harmon was allegedly speaking with?

Note I inserted “allegedly” as I am not all that comfortable with a report almost entirely based on anonymous sources. I am not a Harmon supporter, but I would like to know more.

Your comment falls into a thought I had earlier that were the person on the tape an Israeli agent, then perhaps Harmon was being set up, was being deliberately compromised — for whatever purposes.

With this new release of info, I’m just dying to figure out who it benefits….

Your comment brings to mind Spy vs. Spy. Heh.

By: leveymg

leveymg — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:15:23 +0000

Interesting Mossad career history for Naor Gilon. First he carelessly delivered Larry Frankin into the hands of the FBI, blowing the Iran operation at OPC, and two AIPAC operatives get indicted in the process, then he deep-sixes Harman, a rather valuable asset on the House Intelligence Committee.

One would almost think Naor was working for the FBI. Lieberman might want to take a second look at his new Chief of Staff.

By: plunger

plunger — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:40:21 +0000

The list is so long it would make your head spin. She had Chertoff over for a private dinner, and Lieberman would be at the top of any list of traitors to the US.

Oct. 25, 2006 - While reportedly under investigation for her ties to an influential pro-Israel lobbying organization, California Rep. Jane Harman last month hosted a private dinner for the group that was attended by two top Bush administration officials—Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte and Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff.

The Sept. 13 dinner took place at the home of Harman, the ranking Democrat on the House Select Committee on Intelligence, and was attended by over 120 top financial backers of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). The highlight of the evening was a panel discussion in which Harman played the host, questioning Negroponte and Chertoff about Mideast developments, international terrorism and homeland-security issues, according to an AIPAC official.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15...../newsweek/

Sounds like a meeting of co-conspirators to me - not the actions of a public official working on behalf of the American People.

As for the Ahmedinejad comments, Israel is a proven terrorist state (the list of false flag attacks they’ve pulled off is too long to list here), has a proven supply of nuclear weapons, and an air force provided by your tax dollars. These are simply facts. They threaten to bomb Iran every day. What would you do/say if you were in his shoes?

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:27:21 +0000

I have to agree with you Mary. Something is not “right” with the story as it is being provided. Much of your qualms would be eliminated however if the subject of the wiretap was, in fact, identified. If the individual was a named subject then the warrant could be issued, the surveillance (provided the person was involved in some ways with the AlPACa case), would be legitimate. As far as the person having influence…that would point to either a member of Congress or Congressional staff, likely on the intelligence committee…or a member of Pelosi’s own staff. It’s unlikely to be someone in the Administration, and I doubt that someone on AlPACa would be capable of leaning overtly on Pelosi.

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:20:07 +0000

So the question is, would they throw AG AG under the bus to get Harmon? Seems like a negligible gain…unless it metastacizes upward. Given that Pelosi didn’t give Harman the Intelligence Committee Chairmanship the suspected deal at that end was for naught.

But it suggests that the “spy”, or other folks from AlPACa, had some contact directly or indirectly with Nancy. What “spy” would actually have such ability to successfully “lobby” Pelosi and make it stick? Could it be another member of Congress? A major donor? But what major donor would actually produce a coherent argument re. Intelligence appointments.

I’m thinking our spy is either a member of Congress or someone on the IC staff.

By: Hmmm

Hmmm — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:11:19 +0000

Without endorsing anything, I can’t help noticing that this is very much in line with what Ahmedinejad said today in the speech that almost everybody walked out on.