You have to bargain with them for immunity, to get their cooperation. That’s why Obama’s deal is without merit, if you assume they have in mind ever prosecuting those higher up.

You don’t grant the small fry immunity carte blanche, e.g. with the mob, and then assume they’ll feel free to talk.

This is their “hang-out”. They will wait out the storm. We need another shoe to drop.

Senator Levin, where’s the uncensored SASC report, with all those juicy new documents, many of them regarding SERE, etc.?

Are the May 2004 OLC memos, considered in the entire context of what we know, in any way inconsistent with a determination having been made in the spring 2002 that, having already obtained from AZ very likely all useful information, his particular circumstances and condition meant that he presented, in essence, as an unusually fortuitous candidate [apparently to some, and perhaps irresistible to at least one] for use as a guinea pig?

Page 37 of the May 30 memo

Sorry, but I’m not finding it. The trouble may be:

Your May 30 Memo actually links to the May 10 Memo from Bradbury to Rizzo.

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The rather crappy “dirty” PDF conversion that the ACLU has now done with the documents.

I’ve actually tried searching on the latest May 30 ACLU version of the document, but the “dirtiness” of the PDF conversion has really made a big mess out of the text.

For example page 37 in that version of the May 30 Memo is now almost 1/3 gibberish.

I’ve also gone to the NYT’s version of these documents, but no luck there either.

Help! Does anyone have a better text-searchable version of these memos?

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How you have so many people sit so mum on issues involving children mystifies me.

we got a country full of so-called christians, and these mooks are defending the torture and murder of adults

so what’s a little more cogitative dissonance among friends ???

I can’t believe the teabaggers are out protesting tax issues while the president is defending torturers

talk about a fucking disconnect

the president says he can kidnap, torture, and murder anyone on the planet

and these fucking mooks are worried about their money

ever heard the old joke about the guy who, forced to choose between his money or his life, chooses his money, cuz he’ll need the money for his old age

some people just don’t fucking get it

I got’s two of em in my care (an one of em don’t like me much) and the neighbor kid has been putting her turtle in the habitat we built

the person who keeps them here is visiting them, and teaching me how to care for them, but we could always use advice

the neighbor kid’s turtle is a water turtle called billy bob (typical pet shop variety). he started out the size of a quarter a few years back, and he lived in a water tank for most of his life. Now he’s the size of my open palm. he avoids the water in the habitat, and buries himself in the shady leaves under a Camilla bush.

we have to bring the turtles in at night (raccoons), so billy bob goes back in his tank at night. I wonder if we should be putting him in something dry for a while (or drier, at least)

the other two turtles are Squirt and Flash. they’re regular land turtles, slighly smaller than billybob. I think we got two different species here, but they could just be different sexes of the same species. they eat grapes, apples, broccoli, squash, and dandelions. On special occasions they get meal worms and fish (billybob joined in their latest feast)

if ya got any turtle tips, I could use em

I’m most concerned about their shells. They all got “shell” issues

billybob’s shell was kinda flaking off in thin pieces before we put him in the habitat. now it looks better, but I ain’t sure that’s really good

flash has a small (but wide) crack in the center of his back, near his tail (that might be normal too)

and poor lil squirt once involuntarily served as a chew toy. the flared edges of his shell got gnawed off (this was about three years back) and it isn’t growing back

so I was wondering if anybody had any tips or quips

I might even learn to post pictures on the innertoobz, just for the turtles

so I might have gone way off topic, and rambled a bit, but I really like the turtles (even if squirt hisses at me, the bastid)

and one final note, flash is named in honor of the turtle in “Daddy Daycare”

at “show and tell”, the kid in the Flash Gordon costume says:

“This is my turtle”

then he kicks it across the floor like a hockey puck

jes so you know, we don’t really kick flash around

this has been a test of the turtle tips network, no turtles were hurt during the posting of this comment

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