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	<title>Comments on: Is Cheney Behind the Attack on Obama&#8217;s Plans to Withdraw from Iraq?</title>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/02/03/is-cheney-behind-the-attack-on-obamas-plans-to-withdraw-from-iraq/#comment-133072</link>
		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In fairness, Zinni’s connnections with DynCorp, who are making a mint furnishing “security” in Iraq, are a good reason to not pick him for the ambassador there, but it could have been handled a lot better.   And I hope the final call, was Obama’s, not Clinton’s.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness, Zinni’s connnections with DynCorp, who are making a mint furnishing “security” in Iraq, are a good reason to not pick him for the ambassador there, but it could have been handled a lot better.   And I hope the final call, was Obama’s, not Clinton’s.</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You want scary?  This is scary…WTF is Clinton doing setting up the ambassador to Iraq?  That’s Obama’s call.  Not hers.  That SHE, of all people, is asking Zinni for his views of Iraq, when, more than 6 years ago, he was warning Bush that he was getting ready to open up a can of worms on which he would not be able to replace the lid, not long before she was flacking and voting for, the invasion, is crazy. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/02/04/zinni_unloads&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thecable.foreignpolicy......ni_unloads&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I make it at least 50-50 that on her maiden junket she shows up in Baghdad for mutual strokes with Petraeus and Odierno.  And I’ll be glad to lose on that. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Arrrrghhh….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want scary?  This is scary…WTF is Clinton doing setting up the ambassador to Iraq?  That’s Obama’s call.  Not hers.  That SHE, of all people, is asking Zinni for his views of Iraq, when, more than 6 years ago, he was warning Bush that he was getting ready to open up a can of worms on which he would not be able to replace the lid, not long before she was flacking and voting for, the invasion, is crazy. </p>
<p><a href="http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/02/04/zinni_unloads" rel="nofollow">http://thecable.foreignpolicy&#8230;&#8230;ni_unloads</a></p>
<p>I make it at least 50-50 that on her maiden junket she shows up in Baghdad for mutual strokes with Petraeus and Odierno.  And I’ll be glad to lose on that. </p>
<p>Arrrrghhh….</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I’m seizing the carp…”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;:o) :o) :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I’m seizing the carp…”</p>
<p>:o) :o) :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks hoss. *G* &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ME? I’m seizing the carp. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Give a Larue a fish (or a lake full) and I’ll make us ALL dinner. No miracles here, I’m just a good cook!!!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That and a bigass vat of popcorn (extra garlic butter and some parm reg grated on top please) and a jug of whiskey . . . . will get us . . . . numb to it all, if we can’t change it all. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks hoss. *G* </p>
<p>ME? I’m seizing the carp. </p>
<p>Give a Larue a fish (or a lake full) and I’ll make us ALL dinner. No miracles here, I’m just a good cook!!!! </p>
<p>That and a bigass vat of popcorn (extra garlic butter and some parm reg grated on top please) and a jug of whiskey . . . . will get us . . . . numb to it all, if we can’t change it all. </p>
<p>*G*</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sigh, and so it goes. Haven’t caught up with news today, thanks for the heads up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, and so it goes. Haven’t caught up with news today, thanks for the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dude, that’s so crushingly verdad it’s frightening. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yer spot on. One lousy photo op, and BOOM, goes all of Obama’s political cache, as far as public opinion goes (libs and progs notwithstanding, but we’ll have been neutered by this and we won’t count).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I said, I believe we will know how this all twists within 3 months, if not sooner. And SecState HRC may be the beacon to look for, indeed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How you DO that, Tan? *G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, that’s so crushingly verdad it’s frightening. </p>
<p>Yer spot on. One lousy photo op, and BOOM, goes all of Obama’s political cache, as far as public opinion goes (libs and progs notwithstanding, but we’ll have been neutered by this and we won’t count).</p>
<p>As I said, I believe we will know how this all twists within 3 months, if not sooner. And SecState HRC may be the beacon to look for, indeed. </p>
<p>How you DO that, Tan? *G*</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Long-winded or not, it was good-winded.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We share some of the same paranoias, and why not?   As you say, Rome IS falling; we just need to make it as soft a landing as possible.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Caveat Emptor, dude.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long-winded or not, it was good-winded.  :o)</p>
<p>We share some of the same paranoias, and why not?   As you say, Rome IS falling; we just need to make it as soft a landing as possible.  :o)</p>
<p>Caveat Emptor, dude.  :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hoss, we won’t be needing a few years, this shit is gonna come due an payable to Obama in the next three months at the most. We’ll know MUCH sooner what the end game is gonna look like. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re danged near a crux of a Turning Point (h/t John Mayall) and we need some room to move, soon.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoss, we won’t be needing a few years, this shit is gonna come due an payable to Obama in the next three months at the most. We’ll know MUCH sooner what the end game is gonna look like. </p>
<p>We’re danged near a crux of a Turning Point (h/t John Mayall) and we need some room to move, soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And therein FP, lies our hope for hope. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That the Sheeple are smarter, and won’t get fooled again. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Without that hope, the doom and gloom would more than I can bear anymore. *G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And therein FP, lies our hope for hope. </p>
<p>That the Sheeple are smarter, and won’t get fooled again. </p>
<p>Without that hope, the doom and gloom would more than I can bear anymore. *G*</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LD, good thoughts, and Nir Rosen is a hoss. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Juan Cole at Informed Consent has a recent post out regarding the Iraqi Elections, and even HIS info is contradictory in places. Who KNOWS who really has any edge in any of the voting. You won’t find the truth in OUR MSM, that’s for sure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But regardless of who’s WINNING, the actual election IS a travesty, with the turnout, disqualification of large groups thru out the country, etc. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not to quibble TOO much, but one statement ya made I’d like to detail on. Islam was started in the 6th Century, as a simple Wiki reveals: “Born in Mecca, in western Arabia, Muhammad (ca. 570–632)”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My point is that the ’squabbles’ you refer to as going back 1,300 years, would NOT be Islamic based, but rather, tribal and regionally based. NOT due to the birth or inception of Islam. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other than that, good thoughts as I said. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And may I bow once more, to Marcy, and the Pup Comments. Sure beats inhaling the MSM. *G* I value your voices.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LD, good thoughts, and Nir Rosen is a hoss. </p>
<p>Juan Cole at Informed Consent has a recent post out regarding the Iraqi Elections, and even HIS info is contradictory in places. Who KNOWS who really has any edge in any of the voting. You won’t find the truth in OUR MSM, that’s for sure.</p>
<p>But regardless of who’s WINNING, the actual election IS a travesty, with the turnout, disqualification of large groups thru out the country, etc. </p>
<p>Not to quibble TOO much, but one statement ya made I’d like to detail on. Islam was started in the 6th Century, as a simple Wiki reveals: “Born in Mecca, in western Arabia, Muhammad (ca. 570–632)”. </p>
<p>My point is that the ’squabbles’ you refer to as going back 1,300 years, would NOT be Islamic based, but rather, tribal and regionally based. NOT due to the birth or inception of Islam. </p>
<p>Other than that, good thoughts as I said. </p>
<p>And may I bow once more, to Marcy, and the Pup Comments. Sure beats inhaling the MSM. *G* I value your voices.</p>
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