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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131911</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You seem to assert as a matter of fact that Executive Privilege has been officially asserted by way of the January 16 letter to Luskin.  In the first place, although the EP words are tossed in, I am not sure that such actually constitutes an assertion of EP; secondly I sure as hell am not sure that it is an effective and proper assertion if it is an assertion at all.  I’ll be honest, I am of the take that this letter is a total pike of crap, and really does not even attempt to properly assert EP, but, instead, is a half assed attempt to throw enough doubt into the process to allow litigation and delay.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to assert as a matter of fact that Executive Privilege has been officially asserted by way of the January 16 letter to Luskin.  In the first place, although the EP words are tossed in, I am not sure that such actually constitutes an assertion of EP; secondly I sure as hell am not sure that it is an effective and proper assertion if it is an assertion at all.  I’ll be honest, I am of the take that this letter is a total pike of crap, and really does not even attempt to properly assert EP, but, instead, is a half assed attempt to throw enough doubt into the process to allow litigation and delay.</p>
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		<title>By: lllphd</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131904</link>
		<dc:creator>lllphd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;on your previous comment, i cannot imagine rove spilling beans.  butter would not melt in this guys mouth; he will never sweat.  i somehow think he’d rather go down as a martyr for bush than turn.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;on that note, wrt your second comment, i read that profile too, and i was even more struck by the language rove used to describe bush; it was faint and throbbing and went something like “he got off that plane in a flight jacket and jeans with a can of chew in his back pocket, throwing around more charisma than any man has a right to.”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;pure man-crush stuff.  it’s not that he’s simply ‘known’ bush for ‘that long;’ he’s been deeply enraptured by him.  though i suspect as his perfect mate for achieving their common goal of supremacy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on your previous comment, i cannot imagine rove spilling beans.  butter would not melt in this guys mouth; he will never sweat.  i somehow think he’d rather go down as a martyr for bush than turn.</p>
<p>on that note, wrt your second comment, i read that profile too, and i was even more struck by the language rove used to describe bush; it was faint and throbbing and went something like “he got off that plane in a flight jacket and jeans with a can of chew in his back pocket, throwing around more charisma than any man has a right to.”  </p>
<p>pure man-crush stuff.  it’s not that he’s simply ‘known’ bush for ‘that long;’ he’s been deeply enraptured by him.  though i suspect as his perfect mate for achieving their common goal of supremacy.</p>
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		<title>By: lllphd</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131903</link>
		<dc:creator>lllphd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i agree the repugs are a cancer, but you seem to be loosely stringing the facts together.  i suggest you read fielding’s letter itself (linked above) and find that reference to EP i note, also above.  though fielding’s not used EP before, he does in this recent letter.  though the immunity is stressed more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the more dangerous aspect of EP for bush is that, by rove’s invoking it, it more than suggests bush was privy to the decisions about siegelman and the US atty firings. that is the most logical reason fielding avoided it previously.  and why it’s so dangerous for all of them now, fielding included.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;like you, i’m hoping this will be one of the first steps toward a reformation in this country, right down to exposing the reupugs as a ‘ruling class’ party.  but i think you’re really flying way to high to even hope we’ll be “washed clean.”  this is a nation of humans, after all.  and last time i checked, there are still way too many pockets of white supremacists and greedy corporate maggots slithering around.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;may i humbly suggest you check your rhetoric for its zeal and fervor?  with very few changes in words (libruhls for repugs, just one example) you sound way too much like the fanatics we’ve been trying to overcome for so long now.  we all must be very careful we don’t become the enemy; that’s what happens when our passions for hatred take us over.  no matter which side of the aisle we’re on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree the repugs are a cancer, but you seem to be loosely stringing the facts together.  i suggest you read fielding’s letter itself (linked above) and find that reference to EP i note, also above.  though fielding’s not used EP before, he does in this recent letter.  though the immunity is stressed more.</p>
<p>the more dangerous aspect of EP for bush is that, by rove’s invoking it, it more than suggests bush was privy to the decisions about siegelman and the US atty firings. that is the most logical reason fielding avoided it previously.  and why it’s so dangerous for all of them now, fielding included.  </p>
<p>like you, i’m hoping this will be one of the first steps toward a reformation in this country, right down to exposing the reupugs as a ‘ruling class’ party.  but i think you’re really flying way to high to even hope we’ll be “washed clean.”  this is a nation of humans, after all.  and last time i checked, there are still way too many pockets of white supremacists and greedy corporate maggots slithering around.  </p>
<p>may i humbly suggest you check your rhetoric for its zeal and fervor?  with very few changes in words (libruhls for repugs, just one example) you sound way too much like the fanatics we’ve been trying to overcome for so long now.  we all must be very careful we don’t become the enemy; that’s what happens when our passions for hatred take us over.  no matter which side of the aisle we’re on.</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131870</link>
		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(When Nicholas Lemann profiled Rove for the New Yorker back in 2004, Rove said that he had admired Bush back when he was in the Texas Air National Guard, simply for charisma and being a natural politician. It would be hard to betray someone you have known for that long)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(When Nicholas Lemann profiled Rove for the New Yorker back in 2004, Rove said that he had admired Bush back when he was in the Texas Air National Guard, simply for charisma and being a natural politician. It would be hard to betray someone you have known for that long)</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131869</link>
		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;plunger was working on a good comment but spoiled it all by saying that legal trouble would cause Rove to spill the beans. Rove isn’t Gonzalez. Bush is Rove’s political career and Rove’s political success. If Rove betrays Bush he may stay out of jail but he will have no legacy or accomplishments for the things he believes in. And it may be even less likely for another candidate ever to hire him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plunger was working on a good comment but spoiled it all by saying that legal trouble would cause Rove to spill the beans. Rove isn’t Gonzalez. Bush is Rove’s political career and Rove’s political success. If Rove betrays Bush he may stay out of jail but he will have no legacy or accomplishments for the things he believes in. And it may be even less likely for another candidate ever to hire him.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131865</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s true, The Sweetie and have been saying to each other, every time a Boehner or a McConnell starts talking policy, “They got nuthin’.”  I still think we gotta connect to their electoral base with that message, they might actually be educable about this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s true, The Sweetie and have been saying to each other, every time a Boehner or a McConnell starts talking policy, “They got nuthin’.”  I still think we gotta connect to their electoral base with that message, they might actually be educable about this.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131863</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama is playing chess&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and the repuglitards are drooling on themselves and chewing on checkers&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think 110 million voters got their own ideas about lush limpballs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the repuglitatrds are in a suicide spiral (hat tip to Nate Silver)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;toss them some more anchors …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is playing chess</p>
<p>and the repuglitards are drooling on themselves and chewing on checkers</p>
<p>I think 110 million voters got their own ideas about lush limpballs</p>
<p>the repuglitatrds are in a suicide spiral (hat tip to Nate Silver)</p>
<p>toss them some more anchors …</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131862</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BTW I’m a little worried about the sudden surge of daylight the Rs are putting between PBO and themselves, i.e. the 0 votes for EcStim, McCain stiffing the Super Bowl invitation, Michael Steele’s hard-ass rhetoric, heck, even &lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/31/come-saturday-morning-seven-days-in-january/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this PW post&lt;/a&gt;, etc.  And there was some hint the other day that something damaging about PBO was about to come out.  Anyone else’s Spidey Sense all a-tingle?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I’m a little worried about the sudden surge of daylight the Rs are putting between PBO and themselves, i.e. the 0 votes for EcStim, McCain stiffing the Super Bowl invitation, Michael Steele’s hard-ass rhetoric, heck, even <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/31/come-saturday-morning-seven-days-in-january/" rel="nofollow">this PW post</a>, etc.  And there was some hint the other day that something damaging about PBO was about to come out.  Anyone else’s Spidey Sense all a-tingle?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131859</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just read a comment on The Great Orange Satan to the effect that the R party is the political arm of the American ruling class.  Seeing as how their policies always work against the interests of working people, that’s difficult to argue against.  The trick for us now is to make that fact clear for the people who got duped into voting for them, against their own economic self-interest I might add, so that in 2010 their party numbers in the House and Senate dwindle to a level at which they can no longer thwart the peoples’ business.  I suggest PBO start by rolling out Ross-Perot-style graphs illustrating the abysmal performance of the US economy during R administrations over the past 40 years — it’s not subtle, and should serve to ’splain to everyone why we should &lt;strong&gt;not not not &lt;/strong&gt;be listening to Rush and the Rs at large as we design the EcStim.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a comment on The Great Orange Satan to the effect that the R party is the political arm of the American ruling class.  Seeing as how their policies always work against the interests of working people, that’s difficult to argue against.  The trick for us now is to make that fact clear for the people who got duped into voting for them, against their own economic self-interest I might add, so that in 2010 their party numbers in the House and Senate dwindle to a level at which they can no longer thwart the peoples’ business.  I suggest PBO start by rolling out Ross-Perot-style graphs illustrating the abysmal performance of the US economy during R administrations over the past 40 years — it’s not subtle, and should serve to ’splain to everyone why we should <strong>not not not </strong>be listening to Rush and the Rs at large as we design the EcStim.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/30/rove-deadline-delayed/#comment-131855</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;between a rock and a hard place.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it gets worse for rover&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I read EW as saying fielding is going the “absolute immunity” route (it’s the only way he can save himself on the siegalman stuff. EP don’t cover interfering with active prosecutions at the DOJ)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and when the absolute immunity fails, and kkkarl takes the 5th under the klieg lights, he gets frogmarched in front of a Grand Jury&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there ain’t anything that can save him there&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;delaying rover’s testimony is actually a GOOD thing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there is a resentment and outright ANGER building against the repuglitard party right now&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wait till Al Franken gets his senate seat, and Eric Holder get his hands on bushco’s dirty little secrets&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the wave is building&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and America shall be washed clean&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the republican party is a cancer on America&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>between a rock and a hard place.</strong></p>
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<p>it gets worse for rover</p>
<p>I read EW as saying fielding is going the “absolute immunity” route (it’s the only way he can save himself on the siegalman stuff. EP don’t cover interfering with active prosecutions at the DOJ)</p>
<p>and when the absolute immunity fails, and kkkarl takes the 5th under the klieg lights, he gets frogmarched in front of a Grand Jury</p>
<p>there ain’t anything that can save him there</p>
<p>delaying rover’s testimony is actually a GOOD thing</p>
<p>there is a resentment and outright ANGER building against the repuglitard party right now</p>
<p>wait till Al Franken gets his senate seat, and Eric Holder get his hands on bushco’s dirty little secrets</p>
<p>the wave is building</p>
<p>and America shall be washed clean</p>
<p><strong>the republican party is a cancer on America</strong></p>
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