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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Confirmation Hearings Open Thread</title>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126571</link>
		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, we shouldn’t trust him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; He picked a person for SecState who ran a campaign against him that was straight out of Karl Rove’s playbook, and who was brickdumb enough to take a dump on her natural constituency, the progressive wing of the party, because by doing it she thought it would help her get out from under the deadly “librul” word.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who also climbed on George Bush’s bloody and astronomically expensive war-wagon in 2002 and didn’t un-equivocally get off until a few months before the election in 2008, when she saw her supposedly locks-on-the-board campaign effort, dying in front of her eyes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   I’m not sure why he picked her, but I’m sure of this:   Precisely as with Joe Lieberman, The American-Israeli-Political-Action-Committee owns her butt, and she is going to cause him way more problems than she will solve. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    I’ll add; there is speculation that handing her State was part of the deal for getting her out of the race.   I tend to doubt that.   By the time she finally withdrew, the Democratic leadership, across the board, were dogpiling on her to get out, instead of coming into Denver and ruining us.  I think that if she had stayed in against that, she would have been a political pariah.   As it was, she was just a loser, and a-$30-million-dollars-in-debt loser.   There is a chance that a friend of mine nailed it when he said he thought that Obama was a somewhat naive, good-hearted man…who felt sorry for her; and that’s why he did rehab on her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That sounds more likely to me.  He certainly didn’t stoop to anything like the levels of cesspool politics against her, that she used on him.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    The idea that she’s “savvy” is laughable.  Repeatedly saying that John McCain would make a better C-in-C than Obama, and speculating about the possibility of political assassination as a reason to stay in the race, was way-stupid.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which is why, happily enough, she’s at least, not in the Oval Office.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we shouldn’t trust him. </p>
<p> He picked a person for SecState who ran a campaign against him that was straight out of Karl Rove’s playbook, and who was brickdumb enough to take a dump on her natural constituency, the progressive wing of the party, because by doing it she thought it would help her get out from under the deadly “librul” word.</p>
<p>Who also climbed on George Bush’s bloody and astronomically expensive war-wagon in 2002 and didn’t un-equivocally get off until a few months before the election in 2008, when she saw her supposedly locks-on-the-board campaign effort, dying in front of her eyes. </p>
<p>   I’m not sure why he picked her, but I’m sure of this:   Precisely as with Joe Lieberman, The American-Israeli-Political-Action-Committee owns her butt, and she is going to cause him way more problems than she will solve. </p>
<p>    I’ll add; there is speculation that handing her State was part of the deal for getting her out of the race.   I tend to doubt that.   By the time she finally withdrew, the Democratic leadership, across the board, were dogpiling on her to get out, instead of coming into Denver and ruining us.  I think that if she had stayed in against that, she would have been a political pariah.   As it was, she was just a loser, and a-$30-million-dollars-in-debt loser.   There is a chance that a friend of mine nailed it when he said he thought that Obama was a somewhat naive, good-hearted man…who felt sorry for her; and that’s why he did rehab on her.</p>
<p>That sounds more likely to me.  He certainly didn’t stoop to anything like the levels of cesspool politics against her, that she used on him.  </p>
<p>    The idea that she’s “savvy” is laughable.  Repeatedly saying that John McCain would make a better C-in-C than Obama, and speculating about the possibility of political assassination as a reason to stay in the race, was way-stupid.    </p>
<p>Which is why, happily enough, she’s at least, not in the Oval Office.</p>
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		<title>By: theresa43</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126556</link>
		<dc:creator>theresa43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did you listen to any of the confirmation hearings?  Hillary Clinton was brilliant and she will make a dam good Sec. of State.  Obama knows what he is doing.  You people who are so too smart for your britches should trust the one who you supported, worked tirelessly for and got elected.  But, maybe it is just a matter of always having to complain about something or someone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you listen to any of the confirmation hearings?  Hillary Clinton was brilliant and she will make a dam good Sec. of State.  Obama knows what he is doing.  You people who are so too smart for your britches should trust the one who you supported, worked tirelessly for and got elected.  But, maybe it is just a matter of always having to complain about something or someone.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126501</link>
		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He was my candidate from the start in 2004. Shows ya how I can pick ‘em.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;of course, I was Oh-for-Four in the latest hubcap sweepstakes, so there’s that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was my candidate from the start in 2004. Shows ya how I can pick ‘em.</p>
<p>of course, I was Oh-for-Four in the latest hubcap sweepstakes, so there’s that.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126493</link>
		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess it was naive of me (I have an excuse), but I was thinking that Biden would still be chairing this committee. No such luck. Kerry: I’m sure his heart is in the right place, but man, is he a leaden speaker.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it was naive of me (I have an excuse), but I was thinking that Biden would still be chairing this committee. No such luck. Kerry: I’m sure his heart is in the right place, but man, is he a leaden speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126490</link>
		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is one I actually would want to watch…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one I actually would want to watch…</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hillary: re Somalia: talk to the International Crisis Group. They have been right forever about Somalia. Get the CIA out of there, and drop the silliness about pirates. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Russ is wonderful. I’m sure he knows all this stuff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary: re Somalia: talk to the International Crisis Group. They have been right forever about Somalia. Get the CIA out of there, and drop the silliness about pirates. </p>
<p>Russ is wonderful. I’m sure he knows all this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126487</link>
		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No no no, Voltron is &lt;em&gt;Defender of the Universe&lt;/em&gt;, Guadalupe is the &lt;em&gt;Patroness of the Americas&lt;/em&gt;, and therefore much more limited in scope.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No no no, Voltron is <em>Defender of the Universe</em>, Guadalupe is the <em>Patroness of the Americas</em>, and therefore much more limited in scope.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126486</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is Voltron really the Lady of Guadalupe?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Voltron really the Lady of Guadalupe?</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/hillary-confirmation-hearings-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-126482</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Our Lady of Guadalupe was in the Clinton camp, she must be evil.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Our Lady of Guadalupe was in the Clinton camp, she must be evil.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fuckin’ A, bro!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuckin’ A, bro!</p>
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