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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/06/the-al-haramain-dates/#comment-124931</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;O it’s been years!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTdC11JaO9A&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Little Wheel Spin and Spin&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Those little wheels can spin all they want, the big wheel is slowly getting turned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O it’s been years!</p>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTdC11JaO9A" rel="nofollow">Little Wheel Spin and Spin</a>
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<p>Those little wheels can spin all they want, the big wheel is slowly getting turned.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/06/the-al-haramain-dates/#comment-124914</link>
		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope that Bush is shown in court that he was violating FISA and even violating his own illegal warrantless wiretapping program.  What an unbelievable result that would be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that Bush is shown in court that he was violating FISA and even violating his own illegal warrantless wiretapping program.  What an unbelievable result that would be.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/06/the-al-haramain-dates/#comment-124854</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I read once that a group of Dutch farmers bought an island to move to in the early 30’s, seeing WWII on the horizon. Name of the island was Guadalcanal…..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OMG, that’s hilarious! LOL 707 BWahahaha&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is that really true? I can’t believe it. But it is hilarious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I read once that a group of Dutch farmers bought an island to move to in the early 30’s, seeing WWII on the horizon. Name of the island was Guadalcanal…..</p>
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<p>OMG, that’s hilarious! LOL 707 BWahahaha</p>
<p>Is that really true? I can’t believe it. But it is hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Howard Fineman just referred to Senator Feinstein as DiFi.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard Fineman just referred to Senator Feinstein as DiFi.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/06/the-al-haramain-dates/#comment-124798</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;55 - and isn’t that statute that the current OLC “acting” head has been in long past the expiry?  I’d really kinda love to see the incoming OLC head declare that everything issued by the old “actor”  after the original expiration is invalid bc he was no longer valid to serve. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;56 Colbert interviewing John King last night gigged him on how the press had been so on their knees to Bush and didn’t that mean that they should really go after Obama on everything, right from the get go.  As King was trying to figure out how to respond in a brief pause, Colbert continued,(paraphrasing) “because really, who better to pay for Bush’s failures than Obama”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>55 &#8211; and isn’t that statute that the current OLC “acting” head has been in long past the expiry?  I’d really kinda love to see the incoming OLC head declare that everything issued by the old “actor”  after the original expiration is invalid bc he was no longer valid to serve. </p>
<p>56 Colbert interviewing John King last night gigged him on how the press had been so on their knees to Bush and didn’t that mean that they should really go after Obama on everything, right from the get go.  As King was trying to figure out how to respond in a brief pause, Colbert continued,(paraphrasing) “because really, who better to pay for Bush’s failures than Obama”</p>
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		<title>By: jdmckay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdmckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oops… sorry for redundant stuff there.  Started typing, got up to do something, came back didn’t re-read, yada yada etc etc etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops… sorry for redundant stuff there.  Started typing, got up to do something, came back didn’t re-read, yada yada etc etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I would like to point out that there are potential capabilities on continuing conspiracy grounds, maybe an argument for tolling statutes for deception (real tough), etc.; so even where a statute has theoretically run, it is not necessarily the end of the road.  However, it does make it more problematic, and injects all kinds of effective defense arguments, when the statute on the specific underlying crime presumptively has expired.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I would like to point out that there are potential capabilities on continuing conspiracy grounds, maybe an argument for tolling statutes for deception (real tough), etc.; so even where a statute has theoretically run, it is not necessarily the end of the road.  However, it does make it more problematic, and injects all kinds of effective defense arguments, when the statute on the specific underlying crime presumptively has expired.</p>
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		<title>By: jdmckay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdmckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The anti-Obama spin of that opening is noteworthy, though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FWIW, I just flipped on Blitzer for a couple minutes… leadin was (from memory):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* Obama in damage control: risks alienating blacks w/criticism of Burris&lt;br /&gt;
* Full revolt against Panetta nomination&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then over to FOX, Cavutto talking to Sharpton:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* Cavuto: Q, would you criticize BO if you thought something wrong with his stimulus package?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I turned it right back off.  The “spin” you mention, from what I see, is out there in full force right now, on every single issue.  From what I see, in MSM it’s almost saturation.  Blitzer’s lead in I just flipped on/off:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* BO in full damage control over Panetta nomination&lt;br /&gt;
* BO risks losing black’s support for not supporting Burris nomination&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(sigh…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No wonder US is broke.  Frankly, I think it’s about what we deserve.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The anti-Obama spin of that opening is noteworthy, though.</p>
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<p>FWIW, I just flipped on Blitzer for a couple minutes… leadin was (from memory):</p>
<p>* Obama in damage control: risks alienating blacks w/criticism of Burris<br />
* Full revolt against Panetta nomination</p>
<p>Then over to FOX, Cavutto talking to Sharpton:</p>
<p>* Cavuto: Q, would you criticize BO if you thought something wrong with his stimulus package?</p>
<p>I turned it right back off.  The “spin” you mention, from what I see, is out there in full force right now, on every single issue.  From what I see, in MSM it’s almost saturation.  Blitzer’s lead in I just flipped on/off:</p>
<p>* BO in full damage control over Panetta nomination<br />
* BO risks losing black’s support for not supporting Burris nomination</p>
<p>(sigh…)</p>
<p>No wonder US is broke.  Frankly, I think it’s about what we deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I solved that problem weeks ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What Obama has to do is this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Inauguration day, before going over the WH for coffee with the Bushes and thence to the Capitol for the festivities, he has his staff prepare and present to him for his signature a set of appointment documents.  These would be to appoint all his cabinet secretaries and, in the case of DoJ and intel community subordinate appointments, the sub-cabinet level people, too, under the “acting” statute.  You’ll remember Bushie used that power to get around having people even show up for confirmation hearings, when it was too clear they would get hosed down.  Obama would make those appointments as “acting” to be effective at one minute past noon on January 20.  Sign them, then hand them out to the staff to be given to the putative secretaries and held in their pockets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Under the “acting” statute, the officeholders have about 7 months to be confirmed by the Senate and, if they are not, then they would lose the appointment.  That’s fine.  The Repugs can filibuster all they want - no one can stay awake and talk for seven months straight.  But, should it appear that an appointee might not be confirmed, then Obama can ask Reid for a recess in the Senate - I suspect there is one coming between now and August - and then appoint the disputed nominees through a recess appointment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The points of getting the people into the offices through the “Acting” model are several-fold:&lt;br /&gt;
1.  eliminate the efficacy of a filibuster;&lt;br /&gt;
2.  ensure continuity of government;&lt;br /&gt;
3.  prevent the bureaucracy from setting the agenda through inaction and inertia;&lt;br /&gt;
4.  avoid blowing statutes of limitation;&lt;br /&gt;
5.  show the Republicans to be obstructing fools and the Dems more interested in the good of the country than in dealing with Rethuglican bullshit;&lt;br /&gt;
6.  avoid problems (deliberately) left behind by the outgoing administration from blowing up;&lt;br /&gt;
7.  remind people that “elections have consequences” is a phrase which operates two ways.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not a problem.  Just takes a set.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I solved that problem weeks ago.</p>
<p>What Obama has to do is this:</p>
<p>On Inauguration day, before going over the WH for coffee with the Bushes and thence to the Capitol for the festivities, he has his staff prepare and present to him for his signature a set of appointment documents.  These would be to appoint all his cabinet secretaries and, in the case of DoJ and intel community subordinate appointments, the sub-cabinet level people, too, under the “acting” statute.  You’ll remember Bushie used that power to get around having people even show up for confirmation hearings, when it was too clear they would get hosed down.  Obama would make those appointments as “acting” to be effective at one minute past noon on January 20.  Sign them, then hand them out to the staff to be given to the putative secretaries and held in their pockets.</p>
<p>Under the “acting” statute, the officeholders have about 7 months to be confirmed by the Senate and, if they are not, then they would lose the appointment.  That’s fine.  The Repugs can filibuster all they want &#8211; no one can stay awake and talk for seven months straight.  But, should it appear that an appointee might not be confirmed, then Obama can ask Reid for a recess in the Senate &#8211; I suspect there is one coming between now and August &#8211; and then appoint the disputed nominees through a recess appointment.</p>
<p>The points of getting the people into the offices through the “Acting” model are several-fold:<br />
1.  eliminate the efficacy of a filibuster;<br />
2.  ensure continuity of government;<br />
3.  prevent the bureaucracy from setting the agenda through inaction and inertia;<br />
4.  avoid blowing statutes of limitation;<br />
5.  show the Republicans to be obstructing fools and the Dems more interested in the good of the country than in dealing with Rethuglican bullshit;<br />
6.  avoid problems (deliberately) left behind by the outgoing administration from blowing up;<br />
7.  remind people that “elections have consequences” is a phrase which operates two ways.</p>
<p>Not a problem.  Just takes a set.</p>
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		<title>By: pdaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’re right. I guess I have gotten used to reading past some of the fluff in the newspapers and not commenting on it. The anti-Obama spin of that opening is noteworthy, though. Good of you to point it out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re right. I guess I have gotten used to reading past some of the fluff in the newspapers and not commenting on it. The anti-Obama spin of that opening is noteworthy, though. Good of you to point it out.</p>
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