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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Senator Al Franken - Time for a shot of tequila.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124377</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well in some respects yes, it all goes back to Paul’s Memorial Service and the mis-use that was made of it by the Wingers.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was there.  I stood in line for about two hours in the cold and mist, not real rain, just cold-wet.  The event was “old home week” for those of us who had worked on Paul’s first Campaign — when he started out after State Convention endorsement at less than 30% name recognition, and at least 30 points down in a head to head with Boschwitz.  (and working on Paul’s first campaign for me meant being called “crazy” by all the legislative folk for whom I had managed campaigns over the years, and recruiting and training kids for Celinda Lake who had volunteered her help us do a true baseline poll for the campaign.  Like Hell the Campaign could pay for something that professional.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But we patched it together with lots and lots of people with various skills, and with very very little money, and we actually won in 1990.  After that campaign we all went various ways — but standing in line at the memorial was very much old home week — hugs, kisses, and rivers of tears.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While standing there, I noticed some college students tearing Wellstone bumper stickers off of cars in a nearby parking lot, and replacing them with Coleman ones.  I pointed it out to people, and some went over to deal with them, but I went the opposite direction and got a cop who was dealing with traffic half a block down, and he called help, and the cops then addressed the “bumper sticker replacers for Coleman.”  Eventually the first cop I asked to help asked me if I wanted to sign a complaint — and I was just glad they had responded as they did, thanked him, and let it go.  Kick myself every day for not officially signing a complaint, and forcing investigation of who sent those “Frat-boys” to ratfuck.  My anger goes back at least that far.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Al Franken was one of the few who understood the DFL and had an insider’s view of what really happened at the Memorial Service to really call out on the winger’s propaganda.  But he was also an old Wellstoneian — back in 1990 when we could not see ourselves forward to pay the phone bills and the rent and lights for our HQ, Franken just showed up, did a show, and raised the money.  Old time depression style rent party. He may well have spent 20 million on this campaign and the recount, but he also knows the other end of the business too. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I had long known the recount would probably come out this way — we have recounted enough elections under current rules to know just about how many DFL’ers fail the test on properly marking ballots for a machine read — but do quite well on the hand court criteria, Intent of the Voter, to know when a recount is worth it. It just takes time to do it absolutely according to the statutes, and slowly so that every matter is addressed.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are so many juicy stories from this recount.  I like the one where they caught one of the county level Republican ballot counters putting 26 ballots in each pile that were supposed to be just 25 ballots, but only for the Franken Pile. It reminds me of the Frat Boys tearing off Wellstone Bumper Stickers.  Republican corruption so deeply buried in every little piece of the process.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For what it is worth — Paul’s Memorial Service should have been nothing less than a huge loud political rally.  That is what he was about, and that is what cemented his people together.  Paul was the focus of a powerful progressive politics — that is how he got elected, and there should have been no shame in a straight out alter call for those who made his campaigns, and wanted his politics.  Sadly, the campaign managers in the wake of the plane crash were too disoriented to comprehend how it should have been planned and framed. And yes, without question, the recount is the last song in that memorial event, done Minnesota style.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was sung at Hubert’s funeral, and while some wanted to do it at the Wellstone memorial, it was sidelined, but when they had a memorial on the Iron Range, they really did it up right.  They sang the Ballad of Joe Hill.  (we also sang it the night Paul died over at the Capitol).  Last Verses go…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Standin there as big as life&lt;br /&gt;
And smilin with his eyes&lt;br /&gt;
Joe says what they could never kill&lt;br /&gt;
Went on to Organize.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From San Diego up to Maine&lt;br /&gt;
In Every Mine and Mill&lt;br /&gt;
Where Workers stand up for their Rights&lt;br /&gt;
Tis there you’ll find Joe Hill. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So in my mind, we have now pushed Franken forward so he might merit having this sung at his Memorial Service. It is up to him to seize opportunity.  It is up to us to make him the Senator he can be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well in some respects yes, it all goes back to Paul’s Memorial Service and the mis-use that was made of it by the Wingers.  </p>
<p>I was there.  I stood in line for about two hours in the cold and mist, not real rain, just cold-wet.  The event was “old home week” for those of us who had worked on Paul’s first Campaign — when he started out after State Convention endorsement at less than 30% name recognition, and at least 30 points down in a head to head with Boschwitz.  (and working on Paul’s first campaign for me meant being called “crazy” by all the legislative folk for whom I had managed campaigns over the years, and recruiting and training kids for Celinda Lake who had volunteered her help us do a true baseline poll for the campaign.  Like Hell the Campaign could pay for something that professional.)</p>
<p>But we patched it together with lots and lots of people with various skills, and with very very little money, and we actually won in 1990.  After that campaign we all went various ways — but standing in line at the memorial was very much old home week — hugs, kisses, and rivers of tears.  </p>
<p>While standing there, I noticed some college students tearing Wellstone bumper stickers off of cars in a nearby parking lot, and replacing them with Coleman ones.  I pointed it out to people, and some went over to deal with them, but I went the opposite direction and got a cop who was dealing with traffic half a block down, and he called help, and the cops then addressed the “bumper sticker replacers for Coleman.”  Eventually the first cop I asked to help asked me if I wanted to sign a complaint — and I was just glad they had responded as they did, thanked him, and let it go.  Kick myself every day for not officially signing a complaint, and forcing investigation of who sent those “Frat-boys” to ratfuck.  My anger goes back at least that far.  </p>
<p>Al Franken was one of the few who understood the DFL and had an insider’s view of what really happened at the Memorial Service to really call out on the winger’s propaganda.  But he was also an old Wellstoneian — back in 1990 when we could not see ourselves forward to pay the phone bills and the rent and lights for our HQ, Franken just showed up, did a show, and raised the money.  Old time depression style rent party. He may well have spent 20 million on this campaign and the recount, but he also knows the other end of the business too. </p>
<p>But I had long known the recount would probably come out this way — we have recounted enough elections under current rules to know just about how many DFL’ers fail the test on properly marking ballots for a machine read — but do quite well on the hand court criteria, Intent of the Voter, to know when a recount is worth it. It just takes time to do it absolutely according to the statutes, and slowly so that every matter is addressed.  </p>
<p>There are so many juicy stories from this recount.  I like the one where they caught one of the county level Republican ballot counters putting 26 ballots in each pile that were supposed to be just 25 ballots, but only for the Franken Pile. It reminds me of the Frat Boys tearing off Wellstone Bumper Stickers.  Republican corruption so deeply buried in every little piece of the process.  </p>
<p>For what it is worth — Paul’s Memorial Service should have been nothing less than a huge loud political rally.  That is what he was about, and that is what cemented his people together.  Paul was the focus of a powerful progressive politics — that is how he got elected, and there should have been no shame in a straight out alter call for those who made his campaigns, and wanted his politics.  Sadly, the campaign managers in the wake of the plane crash were too disoriented to comprehend how it should have been planned and framed. And yes, without question, the recount is the last song in that memorial event, done Minnesota style.  </p>
<p>It was sung at Hubert’s funeral, and while some wanted to do it at the Wellstone memorial, it was sidelined, but when they had a memorial on the Iron Range, they really did it up right.  They sang the Ballad of Joe Hill.  (we also sang it the night Paul died over at the Capitol).  Last Verses go…</p>
<p>And Standin there as big as life<br />
And smilin with his eyes<br />
Joe says what they could never kill<br />
Went on to Organize.  </p>
<p>From San Diego up to Maine<br />
In Every Mine and Mill<br />
Where Workers stand up for their Rights<br />
Tis there you’ll find Joe Hill. </p>
<p>So in my mind, we have now pushed Franken forward so he might merit having this sung at his Memorial Service. It is up to him to seize opportunity.  It is up to us to make him the Senator he can be.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124317</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“More down to earth or since we are talking Cornyn, somewhere below, what effect will the he Republican-threatened filibuster have if carried out?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s how to solve the Corn-dog problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First Reid calls for a vote that all seated new members will take the oath in the morning after they are accepted and have full voting status immediately. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then Reid places all the Democratic Senators that need to be accepted first up on the list with all Republicans, both re-elected and new, to follow. He puts two names at the end of the Democratic list…Franken and Burris. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now technically Cornyn, who is not member of the Senate YET is sitting out there without the right to call for a filibuster or any other activity. He hasn’t been re-accepted. So if the Republicans block Franken he can call a recess for the next day. The new Democratic Senators are sworn in during the morning and the process continues. Now there are a whole slew of new Democrats, enough to break any sort of a filibuster vote. And if the Republicans still insist on a filibuster they will have three days that most of their members will be unable to participate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“More down to earth or since we are talking Cornyn, somewhere below, what effect will the he Republican-threatened filibuster have if carried out?”</p>
<p>Here’s how to solve the Corn-dog problem.</p>
<p>First Reid calls for a vote that all seated new members will take the oath in the morning after they are accepted and have full voting status immediately. </p>
<p>Then Reid places all the Democratic Senators that need to be accepted first up on the list with all Republicans, both re-elected and new, to follow. He puts two names at the end of the Democratic list…Franken and Burris. </p>
<p>Now technically Cornyn, who is not member of the Senate YET is sitting out there without the right to call for a filibuster or any other activity. He hasn’t been re-accepted. So if the Republicans block Franken he can call a recess for the next day. The new Democratic Senators are sworn in during the morning and the process continues. Now there are a whole slew of new Democrats, enough to break any sort of a filibuster vote. And if the Republicans still insist on a filibuster they will have three days that most of their members will be unable to participate.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124280</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is one contests I have followed occasionally.  The bind for the Coleman organization seems to be their December signing of an agreement on the protocol for winnowing absentee ballots, the very process which produced the Franken election victory outcome yesterday.  In a demonstration of its sense of impact on national politics, the court even required both organizations to write documents for review Saturday.  The best the Republican attorneys seem to have conceptualized is to attempt to renege on their agreement about criteria for absentee ballot counting, and instead demand the state supreme court develop a uniform recount process for a select subset of Republican controlled counties, then do a new recount only in those enclaves.  It seems unlikely the courts will follow Coleman’s lame outfit’s last ditch needs as filed, since the original agreement both sides signed in December already was court sponsored.  Electionlawblog has followed this closely, and Moritz has a new site which has an excellent layout like an Excel spreadsheet linking live to the court site for the principal court papers which serve as milestones.  I think the Republicans will test Reid’s parliamentary agility, and lose.  Welcome, Senator-elect Franken.  CQ’s game review of the victory yesterday is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000003002470&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;there&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one contests I have followed occasionally.  The bind for the Coleman organization seems to be their December signing of an agreement on the protocol for winnowing absentee ballots, the very process which produced the Franken election victory outcome yesterday.  In a demonstration of its sense of impact on national politics, the court even required both organizations to write documents for review Saturday.  The best the Republican attorneys seem to have conceptualized is to attempt to renege on their agreement about criteria for absentee ballot counting, and instead demand the state supreme court develop a uniform recount process for a select subset of Republican controlled counties, then do a new recount only in those enclaves.  It seems unlikely the courts will follow Coleman’s lame outfit’s last ditch needs as filed, since the original agreement both sides signed in December already was court sponsored.  Electionlawblog has followed this closely, and Moritz has a new site which has an excellent layout like an Excel spreadsheet linking live to the court site for the principal court papers which serve as milestones.  I think the Republicans will test Reid’s parliamentary agility, and lose.  Welcome, Senator-elect Franken.  CQ’s game review of the victory yesterday is <a href="http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000003002470" rel="nofollow">there</a></p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124279</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Al is going to be amazing and so worth the wait no matter how long more it takes to get it signed sealed and delivered.  I think he’s going to have a huge effect on the Senate.  He’ll knock the stuffing out of so much of the bullshit it will be like the Dems have a new secret weapon.  Go Al.  gosh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al is going to be amazing and so worth the wait no matter how long more it takes to get it signed sealed and delivered.  I think he’s going to have a huge effect on the Senate.  He’ll knock the stuffing out of so much of the bullshit it will be like the Dems have a new secret weapon.  Go Al.  gosh.</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124239</link>
		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aw, c’mon, now — you’re not to be pickin’ on Joe the Biden and his French cuffs. *wink*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, c’mon, now — you’re not to be pickin’ on Joe the Biden and his French cuffs. *wink*</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124228</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like that view from your mind’s eye.&lt;br /&gt;
As Jean-Luc Picard might say, “Make it so.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that view from your mind’s eye.<br />
As Jean-Luc Picard might say, “Make it so.”</p>
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		<title>By: jdmckay</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124227</link>
		<dc:creator>jdmckay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m actually really looking forward to committee assignments. Dunno where they’ll put Franken, &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there a media/FCC oversight committee?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;but he’ll sure lighten up committee hearings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Coleman’s such an asshole.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is change I can believe in. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve been thinking about that for a couple weeks now, ruminating so many of his funny but poignant comments injected into procedural Senate absurdities.  Intelligent humor can be disarming and persuasive.  Franken’s demonstrated all that, at least to me.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Loved that picture of &lt;a href=&quot;http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/kos102/2008/other/franken-hillary.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Al &amp; Hillary&lt;/a&gt; from your KOS link.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m actually really looking forward to committee assignments. Dunno where they’ll put Franken, </p>
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<p>Is there a media/FCC oversight committee?  </p>
<blockquote><p>but he’ll sure lighten up committee hearings.</p>
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<p>Yep.  </p>
<p>And Coleman’s such an asshole.  </p>
<p>This is change I can believe in. </p>
<p>I’ve been thinking about that for a couple weeks now, ruminating so many of his funny but poignant comments injected into procedural Senate absurdities.  Intelligent humor can be disarming and persuasive.  Franken’s demonstrated all that, at least to me.  </p>
<p>Loved that picture of <a href="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/kos102/2008/other/franken-hillary.jpg" rel="nofollow">Al &amp; Hillary</a> from your KOS link.</p>
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		<title>By: LabDancer</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/schadenfreude-delayed/comment-page-1/#comment-124223</link>
		<dc:creator>LabDancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this  - mainly as an opportunity to confront myself with the fact that I’ve spent … HOURS, at the office, with the Uptake running in one corner of a screen, watching the proceedings of a CANVASSING BOARD, in a state I’ve visited so little it might as well be a state of mind - while listening on the phone to clients with half or less of my shriveled brain, or to some other lawyer [having exercised caution enough to give full disclosure; one said to me: ooo - I can’t get away with that here - tell me what’s going on - could you move closer to the speaker then I can catch a bit of the feed]; and yesterday, between ads and snaps: “Coleman - Looks like they’re moving into Cover Two - Franken - Franken - Franken - No, it’s a BLITZ - Franken - Colemen - Franken - TOUCHDOWN! Coleman - Franken …”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know who realizes how much this means to us? Cornyn for sure - and also for sure the extreme cliffdwellers in the wingoshpere. Go over and smell the hate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my mind’s eye, I see him beside Feingold, co-sponsoring an initiative, and laying down light cover for Whitehouse.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this  &#8211; mainly as an opportunity to confront myself with the fact that I’ve spent … HOURS, at the office, with the Uptake running in one corner of a screen, watching the proceedings of a CANVASSING BOARD, in a state I’ve visited so little it might as well be a state of mind &#8211; while listening on the phone to clients with half or less of my shriveled brain, or to some other lawyer [having exercised caution enough to give full disclosure; one said to me: ooo - I can’t get away with that here - tell me what’s going on - could you move closer to the speaker then I can catch a bit of the feed]; and yesterday, between ads and snaps: “Coleman &#8211; Looks like they’re moving into Cover Two &#8211; Franken &#8211; Franken &#8211; Franken &#8211; No, it’s a BLITZ &#8211; Franken &#8211; Colemen &#8211; Franken &#8211; TOUCHDOWN! Coleman &#8211; Franken …”</p>
<p>You know who realizes how much this means to us? Cornyn for sure &#8211; and also for sure the extreme cliffdwellers in the wingoshpere. Go over and smell the hate.</p>
<p>In my mind’s eye, I see him beside Feingold, co-sponsoring an initiative, and laying down light cover for Whitehouse.</p>
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		<title>By: barne</title>
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		<dc:creator>barne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Franken will be smelling salts and tonic.   A slick power haircut and cufflinks won’t feel so sexy and important with Franken around.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franken will be smelling salts and tonic.   A slick power haircut and cufflinks won’t feel so sexy and important with Franken around.</p>
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