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	<title>Comments on: Fitzgerald Makes His Move for More Time; Blago Agrees!</title>
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		<title>By: Lindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope you understand how we could have PTSD from dealing with everything that’s occurred. I would like nothing better than to be able to trust a process and the people following it in our government. I’m willing to wait and watch and hold my breath. That’s as far as I go.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you understand how we could have PTSD from dealing with everything that’s occurred. I would like nothing better than to be able to trust a process and the people following it in our government. I’m willing to wait and watch and hold my breath. That’s as far as I go.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilParallelUniverse</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilParallelUniverse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wouldn’t use the term reprieve, but that is within the scope of the idea I put forth. And yes, money may play into it, but typically defense attorneys get big payments up front - say for through the trial - so the money is usually spent up front, though obviously that depends on the client’s resources. It’s not smart practice to let someone who may go to jail run up a bill. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, still studying. 8 hours left.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn’t use the term reprieve, but that is within the scope of the idea I put forth. And yes, money may play into it, but typically defense attorneys get big payments up front &#8211; say for through the trial &#8211; so the money is usually spent up front, though obviously that depends on the client’s resources. It’s not smart practice to let someone who may go to jail run up a bill. </p>
<p>Anyway, still studying. 8 hours left.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And I suppose a governors salary is better than no salary at all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pretty interesting interchanges upthread.  ACPowell’s Justia case is a welcome read for the new year.  He was a local outspoken controversy gravitating person who kept getting elected.  It will be enjoyable to refresh the memory reading into his other history on the web; there are some great camera images of his encounters, as well.  I believe his borough was visible from the foothills in the town where I went to highschool, though a lot of his service was after I pretty much lived elsewhere on that seaboard and beyond.  Also, on the sidenote comments, I am one who favors a mixture of some states having campaigns for judges (though there is substantial public &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abanet.org/abanet/media/statement/statement.cfm?releaseid=487&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fretting&lt;/a&gt; about the practice), and others preferring judges be more private; that is OT.  In a state in which I worked in campaign finance bookkeeping it was common for longterm politicians to donate to help lesser pols, but I am far from current on the froth in IL.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty interesting interchanges upthread.  ACPowell’s Justia case is a welcome read for the new year.  He was a local outspoken controversy gravitating person who kept getting elected.  It will be enjoyable to refresh the memory reading into his other history on the web; there are some great camera images of his encounters, as well.  I believe his borough was visible from the foothills in the town where I went to highschool, though a lot of his service was after I pretty much lived elsewhere on that seaboard and beyond.  Also, on the sidenote comments, I am one who favors a mixture of some states having campaigns for judges (though there is substantial public <a href="http://www.abanet.org/abanet/media/statement/statement.cfm?releaseid=487" rel="nofollow">fretting</a> about the practice), and others preferring judges be more private; that is OT.  In a state in which I worked in campaign finance bookkeeping it was common for longterm politicians to donate to help lesser pols, but I am far from current on the froth in IL.</p>
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		<title>By: albertchampion</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/31/blagojevich-makes-his-move/#comment-123613</link>
		<dc:creator>albertchampion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;it is colossal humbuggery for any politician, any politically-engaged commentator[official pundit or blogger], to denounce the governor of illinois, to discredit his appointment to the vacant senate seat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;especially when all that they know is based on a very corrupt, republican usda’s[patrick fitzgerald] press conference announcing an indictment of the governor of illinois. now, some think that patrick fitzgerald is an honorable man. i do not. he is[has been] a gunsell for fascist bastids. the purported “progressive left” lionized fitzgerald because of his lengthy investigation into the “outing” of valerie plame wilson. but, i think that any objective review of his conduct of that investigation, and its prosecution, is one of egregious malfeasance. the scooter was served up as the ham sandwich and fitz protected the real boars[bush, cheney, rove, addington, to name but a few]. succinctly, it was a very well tailored investigation, prosecution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think that this blagojevitch indictment may involve lots of reptillian[and stealth reptillian, aka demtillian] sleaze. one of the most interesting aspects concerning the evidence sustaining this indictment is the issue of WIRETAPPING. one of  the questions that must be asked is this one:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;since we have learned that the resident, george walker bush, ordered illegal wiretapping within hours of his false swearing ceremony, and since we have learned that we are going to be denied access to the extent of that wiretapping, i think that there is a distinct possibility that the indictment promulgated by fitzpatrick is “tainted”….unsustainable in a court ruled by an honest judge[but, as the late sherman skolnick kept informing us, there are no such courts/judges in the chicago jurisdiction]. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i care to add that this bush-ordered illegal wiretapping may have been a resumption of the practices of previous presidents[all the way back to fdr and the fbi’s/oni’s black bag ops on amerikan pols/citizens]. recognizing this program, perhaps you can use this as one of the excuses for a democratic party becoming supine, becoming an ally of the reptillian party, in the destruction of the u.s. constitution/bill of rights. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;personally, i don’t think they had to be blackmailed. politicians, whether they employ the moniker r, d, are still members of the all-encompassing criminal syndicate. but that is just how my studies into amerikan politics since the ascendancy of the first gangster president, harry truman, have informed me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i shall just close this section this way, the activities fitzgerald served up in his indictment at this stage are allegations only. a trial and a jury verdict will be required to transform these republican allegations into criminal acts. that is a forthcoming situation. for all we know, these charges could be dropped at any time in the future, prior to any trial. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;therefore, this demtillian/reptillian rush to deny blagojevitch his consitutional protections is quite anti-constitutional. and i think we should pause to reflect upon this demtillian/reptillian rush to judgment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HAVING SAID THAT, i care to relate the realities of post ww2 amerikan politics as i have encountered them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;for the overture of this discussion, let us just understand that i sat in golf locker rooms, around dinner tables in private residences, dinner tables at private clubs, where political objectives were discussed. amongst those individuals that made/enforced decisions as to who would be candidates for public office and as to how the voting would be tabulated[fraudulent outcomes occurred long before electronic voting machines were introduced]. over my lifetime, i must tell you that i have concluded that most u.s. elections are a very theatrical event[i.e., unreal].&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;my observations of u.s. politics have occurred in ohio and texas. my brother-in-law, involved in california politics, informs me that my observations  into political corruption in those two states are similar to what he observed in california. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;one aspect of post ww2 politics that i noticed was that the politician with a long-term incumbency objective possessed a country property. and that it was developed for “boys only”  events. a stock tank well stocked with fish for easy catching. perhaps a clubhouse. and more assets of that kind. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the most important aspect of that property was that it be out of the line of sight of the electorate and the press. so that its usage was virtually secret.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;actually, i think that the press knew of some of these “entertainment” properties. but, the press being whores, kept those secrets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;here is one story. i could tell you many more. but this one is illustrative of how it has been being done in the usa for decades. i think it is the story of the political realities that have governed the usa since ww2.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to set the scene, imagine that you are a judge in one of america’s major industrial states[illinois, indiana, michigan, ohio, etc]. with no public fanfare or notification, you are notified that you are going to be feted at an “outing” on a saturday at a sporting club in the country. and you don’t even have to drive to get there, transport will have been arranged. moreover, you will learn that the “outing” will be financed by contributions to your political party….that the cost to a non-judicial attendee will be $5,000. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the financiers of the “outing” would be well-known were they to be publicly identified. they will all be ceo’s, coo’s, chief counsels of major corporations with issues before those courts administered by those judges[the guests of honor].&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;for the purposes of illustration, let us consider that for 50 judges there would be 50 corporate litigants attending the “outing”. and up front, they would have invested $250,000 in that “outing”. in this instance, with the up-front proceeds going to the state party[in this instance, reptillian]. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but what always interested me, as sort of a bystander, was what was left on the floor after the “guests” left. there would be these envelopes filled with cash. these would be completely anonymous. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so, 50 “guests” with issues before state courts. and after the “outing”, 50 anonymous envelopes stuffed with cash[approx $10k/envelope] just lying around on the floor. untraceable. $500,000 that could go anywhere. at anytime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and that is a small picture of how it works on one occasion in one year. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think you can make the extrapolations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that is the amerikan political system. recognizing this reality, i think you might have a better understanding of  the humbuggery of the pols’ shock at the purported blagojevitch telephone conversations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you are interested in more of  how the corruption works, let me know. i would be more than pleased to tell you more stories of how the pols, and their handlers/financiers, launder your money. and put it into their offshore accounts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is colossal humbuggery for any politician, any politically-engaged commentator[official pundit or blogger], to denounce the governor of illinois, to discredit his appointment to the vacant senate seat.</p>
<p>especially when all that they know is based on a very corrupt, republican usda’s[patrick fitzgerald] press conference announcing an indictment of the governor of illinois. now, some think that patrick fitzgerald is an honorable man. i do not. he is[has been] a gunsell for fascist bastids. the purported “progressive left” lionized fitzgerald because of his lengthy investigation into the “outing” of valerie plame wilson. but, i think that any objective review of his conduct of that investigation, and its prosecution, is one of egregious malfeasance. the scooter was served up as the ham sandwich and fitz protected the real boars[bush, cheney, rove, addington, to name but a few]. succinctly, it was a very well tailored investigation, prosecution.</p>
<p>i think that this blagojevitch indictment may involve lots of reptillian[and stealth reptillian, aka demtillian] sleaze. one of the most interesting aspects concerning the evidence sustaining this indictment is the issue of WIRETAPPING. one of  the questions that must be asked is this one:</p>
<p>since we have learned that the resident, george walker bush, ordered illegal wiretapping within hours of his false swearing ceremony, and since we have learned that we are going to be denied access to the extent of that wiretapping, i think that there is a distinct possibility that the indictment promulgated by fitzpatrick is “tainted”….unsustainable in a court ruled by an honest judge[but, as the late sherman skolnick kept informing us, there are no such courts/judges in the chicago jurisdiction]. </p>
<p>i care to add that this bush-ordered illegal wiretapping may have been a resumption of the practices of previous presidents[all the way back to fdr and the fbi’s/oni’s black bag ops on amerikan pols/citizens]. recognizing this program, perhaps you can use this as one of the excuses for a democratic party becoming supine, becoming an ally of the reptillian party, in the destruction of the u.s. constitution/bill of rights. </p>
<p>personally, i don’t think they had to be blackmailed. politicians, whether they employ the moniker r, d, are still members of the all-encompassing criminal syndicate. but that is just how my studies into amerikan politics since the ascendancy of the first gangster president, harry truman, have informed me.</p>
<p>i shall just close this section this way, the activities fitzgerald served up in his indictment at this stage are allegations only. a trial and a jury verdict will be required to transform these republican allegations into criminal acts. that is a forthcoming situation. for all we know, these charges could be dropped at any time in the future, prior to any trial. </p>
<p>therefore, this demtillian/reptillian rush to deny blagojevitch his consitutional protections is quite anti-constitutional. and i think we should pause to reflect upon this demtillian/reptillian rush to judgment.</p>
<p>HAVING SAID THAT, i care to relate the realities of post ww2 amerikan politics as i have encountered them.</p>
<p>for the overture of this discussion, let us just understand that i sat in golf locker rooms, around dinner tables in private residences, dinner tables at private clubs, where political objectives were discussed. amongst those individuals that made/enforced decisions as to who would be candidates for public office and as to how the voting would be tabulated[fraudulent outcomes occurred long before electronic voting machines were introduced]. over my lifetime, i must tell you that i have concluded that most u.s. elections are a very theatrical event[i.e., unreal].</p>
<p>my observations of u.s. politics have occurred in ohio and texas. my brother-in-law, involved in california politics, informs me that my observations  into political corruption in those two states are similar to what he observed in california. </p>
<p>one aspect of post ww2 politics that i noticed was that the politician with a long-term incumbency objective possessed a country property. and that it was developed for “boys only”  events. a stock tank well stocked with fish for easy catching. perhaps a clubhouse. and more assets of that kind. </p>
<p>the most important aspect of that property was that it be out of the line of sight of the electorate and the press. so that its usage was virtually secret.</p>
<p>actually, i think that the press knew of some of these “entertainment” properties. but, the press being whores, kept those secrets.</p>
<p>here is one story. i could tell you many more. but this one is illustrative of how it has been being done in the usa for decades. i think it is the story of the political realities that have governed the usa since ww2.</p>
<p>to set the scene, imagine that you are a judge in one of america’s major industrial states[illinois, indiana, michigan, ohio, etc]. with no public fanfare or notification, you are notified that you are going to be feted at an “outing” on a saturday at a sporting club in the country. and you don’t even have to drive to get there, transport will have been arranged. moreover, you will learn that the “outing” will be financed by contributions to your political party….that the cost to a non-judicial attendee will be $5,000. </p>
<p>the financiers of the “outing” would be well-known were they to be publicly identified. they will all be ceo’s, coo’s, chief counsels of major corporations with issues before those courts administered by those judges[the guests of honor].</p>
<p>for the purposes of illustration, let us consider that for 50 judges there would be 50 corporate litigants attending the “outing”. and up front, they would have invested $250,000 in that “outing”. in this instance, with the up-front proceeds going to the state party[in this instance, reptillian]. </p>
<p>but what always interested me, as sort of a bystander, was what was left on the floor after the “guests” left. there would be these envelopes filled with cash. these would be completely anonymous. </p>
<p>so, 50 “guests” with issues before state courts. and after the “outing”, 50 anonymous envelopes stuffed with cash[approx $10k/envelope] just lying around on the floor. untraceable. $500,000 that could go anywhere. at anytime.</p>
<p>and that is a small picture of how it works on one occasion in one year. </p>
<p>i think you can make the extrapolations.</p>
<p>that is the amerikan political system. recognizing this reality, i think you might have a better understanding of  the humbuggery of the pols’ shock at the purported blagojevitch telephone conversations.</p>
<p>if you are interested in more of  how the corruption works, let me know. i would be more than pleased to tell you more stories of how the pols, and their handlers/financiers, launder your money. and put it into their offshore accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Boy, that sure sounds definitive.  Except, of course, it is not.  In fact, the US Supreme court has touched on the issue in the Adam Clayton Powell case.  Before you go about berating people on what they need to do like you are some kind of supreme authority, you might actually read the case of &lt;a href=&quot;http://supreme.justia.com/us/395/486/case.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Powell v. McCormack&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and phrase your personal opinion a bit more humbly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Justice Earl Warre wrote for the court:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“The Constitution does not vest in the Congress a discretionary power to deny membership by majority vote,” [they may] “judge only the qualifications set forth in the Constitution,” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, it is by no means clear cut that the Senate can absolutely refuse to seat Burris.  It is possible, but is is also quite possible that the better legal argument rests with Burris and his demand to be seated.  He appears to possess the basic qualifications for office, which are that he be be at least 30 years old, a U.S. citizen and “an inhabitant” of the state of Illinois.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, that sure sounds definitive.  Except, of course, it is not.  In fact, the US Supreme court has touched on the issue in the Adam Clayton Powell case.  Before you go about berating people on what they need to do like you are some kind of supreme authority, you might actually read the case of <a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/395/486/case.html" rel="nofollow"><em>Powell v. McCormack</em></a> and phrase your personal opinion a bit more humbly.</p>
<p>Justice Earl Warre wrote for the court:</p>
<blockquote><p>“The Constitution does not vest in the Congress a discretionary power to deny membership by majority vote,” [they may] “judge only the qualifications set forth in the Constitution,” </p>
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<p>So, it is by no means clear cut that the Senate can absolutely refuse to seat Burris.  It is possible, but is is also quite possible that the better legal argument rests with Burris and his demand to be seated.  He appears to possess the basic qualifications for office, which are that he be be at least 30 years old, a U.S. citizen and “an inhabitant” of the state of Illinois.</p>
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		<title>By: nextstopchicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>nextstopchicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, I’m writing as an Illinois Democrat who has never donated to Blagojevich, to answer the other objection.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I imagine you’re really asking about elected officials.  The first one I checked, David Orr, Cook County Clerk, has never donated either personally or through his campaign committee, to Blagojevich.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I then checked Pat Quinn, the Lt. Governor.  He likewise has never contributed, either personally nor through his campaign committee.  (Note that his campaign committee did have to list two in-kind contributions totaling about $900 since some joint campaign literature was printed early in the 2002 general election.  In 2006, though he was on the same ballot line as Blagojevich, they never mentioned each other, and Quinn listed no such joint expenditures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Likewise, Congressman Davis never seems to have contributed to a Blagojevich, personally nor through his committee.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s just the first three I thought to check.  Can we stop with the “every Dem in Illinois must have contributed” thing?  For that matter, can we stop with the “must haves”.  These things are verifiable, and so people should either check their facts or not say them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I’m writing as an Illinois Democrat who has never donated to Blagojevich, to answer the other objection.  </p>
<p>But I imagine you’re really asking about elected officials.  The first one I checked, David Orr, Cook County Clerk, has never donated either personally or through his campaign committee, to Blagojevich.  </p>
<p>I then checked Pat Quinn, the Lt. Governor.  He likewise has never contributed, either personally nor through his campaign committee.  (Note that his campaign committee did have to list two in-kind contributions totaling about $900 since some joint campaign literature was printed early in the 2002 general election.  In 2006, though he was on the same ballot line as Blagojevich, they never mentioned each other, and Quinn listed no such joint expenditures.</p>
<p>Likewise, Congressman Davis never seems to have contributed to a Blagojevich, personally nor through his committee.</p>
<p>That’s just the first three I thought to check.  Can we stop with the “every Dem in Illinois must have contributed” thing?  For that matter, can we stop with the “must haves”.  These things are verifiable, and so people should either check their facts or not say them.</p>
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		<title>By: nextstopchicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>nextstopchicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s a great simulated transcript dealing with this objection at thecapitolfaxblog, showing the absurdity of trying to explain away what was on the tapes.  Guilty is a legal concept.  Tainting the appointment process is not.  It’s to be judged by the Senate.  Congress has rejected fraudulent elections without any underlying indictment to point to.  The same is true here.  He DID taint the procedure, already.  I don’t have to give up any of his legal rights to say that he did things that justify rejecting his appointment.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This defense reminds me of Bill Murray’s army entrance interview in Stripes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Convicted?  Oh, no, definitely never convicted.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everyone needs to put “innocent till proven guilty” out of their minds. That’s part of how we got here.  We know what he said, and these are not just words, not just play-acting.  His words were directives to staff to get things done, and staff came back and said, I followed those directives.  The question of whether a jury will find him “guilty under the law” is irrelevant to our own judgment of whether he is fit to govern or to make appointments to the office he tried to sell for personal gain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a great simulated transcript dealing with this objection at thecapitolfaxblog, showing the absurdity of trying to explain away what was on the tapes.  Guilty is a legal concept.  Tainting the appointment process is not.  It’s to be judged by the Senate.  Congress has rejected fraudulent elections without any underlying indictment to point to.  The same is true here.  He DID taint the procedure, already.  I don’t have to give up any of his legal rights to say that he did things that justify rejecting his appointment.  </p>
<p>This defense reminds me of Bill Murray’s army entrance interview in Stripes.</p>
<p>“Convicted?  Oh, no, definitely never convicted.”</p>
<p>Everyone needs to put “innocent till proven guilty” out of their minds. That’s part of how we got here.  We know what he said, and these are not just words, not just play-acting.  His words were directives to staff to get things done, and staff came back and said, I followed those directives.  The question of whether a jury will find him “guilty under the law” is irrelevant to our own judgment of whether he is fit to govern or to make appointments to the office he tried to sell for personal gain.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have wondered about a dovetailing with a nuke the nominations and appointees early 111th strategem.  The unseated senate seats could be MN, NM, NY, IL.  IL always makes good anthropomorphic political theater.  I was picturing Reid having to face diminished filled seats on his side of the aisle with respect to early WPA legislation, similarly.  Some of the cyberposting experts elsewhere are examining 17th amendment issues about whether senate would deign to seat.  I agree the tenor of the squabbling seems excessive.  It could be interesting if Blago’s prosecutor’s close relistening to some of the tapes denatures some of the charges.  On first look, a mere 14.K donation probably would be routine survival in a machined party state.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have wondered about a dovetailing with a nuke the nominations and appointees early 111th strategem.  The unseated senate seats could be MN, NM, NY, IL.  IL always makes good anthropomorphic political theater.  I was picturing Reid having to face diminished filled seats on his side of the aisle with respect to early WPA legislation, similarly.  Some of the cyberposting experts elsewhere are examining 17th amendment issues about whether senate would deign to seat.  I agree the tenor of the squabbling seems excessive.  It could be interesting if Blago’s prosecutor’s close relistening to some of the tapes denatures some of the charges.  On first look, a mere 14.K donation probably would be routine survival in a machined party state.</p>
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		<title>By: LabDancer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s been my experience a lot of clients are inclined to see these sorts of delays more in the nature of reprieves - particularly those in denial, or in the thralls of hubris, or with an Axis II personality disorder.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s also the mundane, practical but nonetheless important consideration that facing criminal charges tends to stress one’s monetary resources. In addition to the implications in the Affidavit filed with the Complaint of MacBlago appearing to be in urgent need of funds, I seem to recall reports of MacBlago being behind in payments to the lawyers acting in his interests while Fitzgerald has been climbing up the ladder of indictments, plea deals, trials and sentence deals towards him, even before this Complaint was filed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s been my experience a lot of clients are inclined to see these sorts of delays more in the nature of reprieves &#8211; particularly those in denial, or in the thralls of hubris, or with an Axis II personality disorder.</p>
<p>There’s also the mundane, practical but nonetheless important consideration that facing criminal charges tends to stress one’s monetary resources. In addition to the implications in the Affidavit filed with the Complaint of MacBlago appearing to be in urgent need of funds, I seem to recall reports of MacBlago being behind in payments to the lawyers acting in his interests while Fitzgerald has been climbing up the ladder of indictments, plea deals, trials and sentence deals towards him, even before this Complaint was filed.</p>
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