think the Cerberus name purposefully selected, and verisimilarly so, at least with respect to the entity I examined, an organization in trouble, whose resolution seemed to be occurring off-books once Cerberus got involved.

Thx, JL. Like you, I also believe Cerberus’s name quite deliberate and the fact that we even know about them at this point — to say nothing of having John Snow (former Sec Treasury) phoning Paulson (former CEO Goldman Sachs, now Treasury) is significant. And, like so much else they do, ‘off books’ and private.

So did they think it was some kind of dark humor to claim they guard the Gates of Hell?
“Hell” being what, exactly?

The visions of hell that have come down to us – visions of ‘Tartarus’ – almost certainly trace back to slave labor being forced to crawl in mines. “Tar” being associated with ‘tin’ or minerals used in weaponry in the Bronze Age. Also associated with the ancient bull gods (MinoTAUR, TAURus… etc).

The kingdoms and powers of the ‘bull gods’ seem to have collapsed fairly suddenly, circa 1300 – 1150 BC. Here’s hoping we make a far smoother transition.

But there’s no reason for us to have to underwrite billions in fraud; the bulls on Wall Street have to answer for their own conduct.

Who could possibly have imagined…?

RoTL, agreed, and thankx for some of the early work; the site I linked is good with text and pointers to the original transcriptions of myth. I think the Cerberus name purposefully selected, and verisimilarly so, at least with respect to the entity I examined, an organization in trouble, whose resolution seemed to be occurring off-books once Cerberus got involved. Though it is only a first impression.

With tin foil cap on, I wonder if 9/ll was allowed. I wonder if the terrorists (Saudi?) knew that Bushco would go after the money at any and every cost. (would that really be so hard to predict, especially if you have inside knowledge of the bushco clan?) Terrorism at it’s root, is a form of communication. It is a way of “telling” or “teaching” or “validating” certain positions.

Violence against America and our paradigm of power and control was meaningless, without the finance sector. We in america, don’t really value human life. We value money. We give it lip service, but to any outsider looking at action instead of words, the truth would have been easily seen by our history, our actions, our unrepentant ways, our repeating use of violence and the constant neglect of LIFE for the sake of the almighty dollar.

We are not, vulnerable to violence, not if the terrorists seek to communicate a message about the evils of capitalism, and greed. Violence only serves to feed that machine in America. (which is part of the lesson many terrorists seek to teach…that america is a Gluttonous and Greedy country). Far better to communicate this lesson by using it against us. By taking the wealthiest greediest souls and turning their paradigm inside out. Yes, it would hurt the poor, but terrorists don’t care about the loss of life or lifestyle. They care about the message.

The gamblers are running around doing what a compulsive gambler does. They must continue the game, they must maintain the paradigm because with out that paradigm the obsession dies. The obsession cannot die because the nature of obsession is to keep rolling to avoid some truth about life and living that the gambler cannot face. It’s called denial. Compulsions and obsessions cannot continue without denial.

I believe these folks have been had. (and we are being victimized until we realize that we have to stop enabling the disease.) That is, we have to stop the flow of money into their hands. We have to get ourselves recovered. We must touch base with the things that really matter…and it’s not cars, houses or money. It’s relationships.

Right now we are co-victims. I fear that the only way to recovery is to detach from my worldly possessions. To “let go” of the “American Dream” and to let those on top face the consequences of their actions. When we save them, to save ourselves…is that any different than the wife of an alcoholic who calls into work for her hung over husband so that he won’t lose his job? It seems to me that in the big picture…regardless of the unions, regardless of the effects, we have to “detach” from the robber barons. We have to be willing to go it on our own without them.

I think that we can do it. I think the unions can reform. I think that we can develop technology to put the terrorists under by “detaching” from our need for oil. There is much work to be done, and money to be made…but for a more truthful, and effective path. WE need to abandon the path we are on now.

It’s perfect. Maybe I am giving our enemies too much credit…maybe my tinfoil hat is too tight…it wouldn’t be the first time.

Coincidence Theory just doesn’t explain one enterprise making back to back “investments” in Chrysler AND GMAC, the two worst ideas ever conceived.

“Incompetence” is used to explain away too many things that have come to pass under this administration. “Conspiracy” is far more likely.

http://www.portfolio.com/execu…..-Bloomberg

The artifact came in the form of a photocopied booklet with the title The Portable Bloomberg: The Wit and Wisdom of Michael Bloomberg — 32 pages of Bloomberg quips, anecdotes, and aphorisms with occasional illustrations — dated February 14, 1990, when Bloomberg was a much smaller company, and Bloomberg himself a much less visible figure (this was seven years before publication of his book, Bloomberg by Bloomberg, which has a similar, if more sanitized, tone).

“Make the customer think he’s getting laid when he’s getting fucked,” is the booklet’s first Bloomberg quotation.

“A good salesperson asks for the order,” went the second piece of purported Bloomberg wisdom. “It’s like the guy who goes into a bar, and walks up to every gorgeous girl there, and says ‘Do you want to fuck?’ He gets turned down a lot — but he gets fucked a lot, too!”

I read from the booklet: “The three biggest lies are: the check’s in the mail, I’ll respect you in the morning, and I’m glad I’m Jewish.” I said: “He actually said that?”

Pause. “Often.”

I read another Bloombergism: “If women wanted to be appreciated for their brains, they’d go to the library instead of to Bloomingdale’s.” And another: “I know for a fact that any self-respecting woman who walks past a construction site and doesn’t get a whistle will turn around and walk past again and again until she does get one.”

“This is Bloomberg culture,” she said. “You have to understand, Mike is very uncensored.” After a second, she went on: “When Mike says outrageous things, it’s sort of a test. It’s a loyalty test. It’s a bonding thing when everyone laughs. You stop thinking that it might be inappropriate.”

“Is all of this a direct quote — these are his actual words?”

“Yes.”

http://74.125.45.132/search?q=…..#038;gl=us

The essence of what we’re seeing is the end of the religion of Capitalism itself (as the last stage of the progression out of Mesopotamia, moving through Egypt, and ending with the stages of Judaism, Christianity and Capitalism).

This ending was easy to predict, because Capitalism is predicated on the assumption that resources are infinite, human effects are negligible, and all that matters is the insatiable desires of unconnected individuals. It, like cancer, is a system based on permanent growth and a disregard for the effects of that growth on the host body (which is why cancer is such a feared killer in western society, it’s the outprojection at the physical level of the dominant religious process).

Living, most especially in the sense of “eternal life,” is a process that is sustainable, and what we’re doing collectively isn’t sustainable, so it’s more truthfully seen as actively and intentionally dying.

(To invoke another story of the week, Capitalism is itself a giant Ponzi scheme – or, more accurately, Ponzi was one of the foretellers of the demise of Capitalism, if one could read those leaves. )

But since creation and destruction are the same thing (even the Mona Lisa destroyed the white canvas upon which it was painted), we need to allow that which has served its purpose well – Capitalism – to reach its natural goal and die (with our grief, our thanks and our gratitude) before we have a hope of creating what comes next.

Mythologically, I’d say that Cerberus as a guardian of Capital is wonderfully appropriate – in that Capitalism, and the elevation of Man to God, inevitably leads to death. The symbolism of Cerberus as guardian of Capital is that Capital has already entered the underworld, never to return – and thus Capitalism is already dead.

Think I’ll play a little Al Hirt as funereal tribute. Thank you, Capitalism, and go with God.

Glimpsed in the foliage: Κήρβερος Cerberus: has some rather unpleasant associations with death. The opening lines of the Iliad go something like, “Menace! Sing, Muse, of the menacing destruction wrought by the unremitting wrath of Achilles, son of Peleus, whose hard-hearted fury resulted in the needless deaths of his fellow men, left on the battlefield to be eaten by dogs and vultures…” Homer was a moralist, after a fashion.

Ψυχή Psyche: or ‘Soul’, often associated with honey cakes, which would also link her with the Moon. There are associations in parts of the ancient Near East between the New Moon and women baking crescent-shaped honey cakes to entice the moon to return to the sky; there are also notes of women offering the honey cakes to the full moon. Honey was also associated with medicine, as it was used to ‘make the medicine go down’. If you’ve ever had some lovely kourabeties cookies, soaked in honey, these are probably our modern descendents of honey cakes offered by ancient ‘Psyches’ each month.

Ὀρφεύς Orpheus: the idea that music was ‘a form of medicine’ as a form of ‘harmonizing’ and creating ‘good vibrations’ is quite ancient. Unfortunately, the Pythagorans didn’t write down their [secret] knowledge, but they seem to have definitely linked ‘harmonics’, and music with the concept of ‘healing’ and ‘medicine’. Hence, the associations with harps and cymbals.

Ἡρακλἣς who held up the heavens has some interesting associations with the Precession of the Equinoxes.
If you note the location of this constellation near mid-heaven, you’ll see it’s quite possible that it’s in the region where the Pole Star shifted; he was credited with saving the world when the ‘pillars fell’ (the pillars being the preceding Pole Star as the precession shifted things).

To bring this back round to our current thread topics:

If the “Pillars of the Earth” on Wall Street have collapsed, and as I look at the level of fraud and greed on Wall Street I’m tempted to hope that they have, what we may have here is an “Economic PREcession”. Now there’s a concept the Dems and Obama should get behind ;-))

A Precession would be neither a ‘re-cession’ nor a ‘de-pression’, but rather natural shift to a new paradigm; new rules by which to navigate, as it were. The old ways collapsed (as has happened more than once in human history!) and thus we enter a new way of doing things: designate CDS’s no longer legal, and move on.

As for Cerberus… it can ‘go to the dogs’, which is another way of ‘go to hell’.
Time for some ‘healing music’ to feed my soul, so it’s off to iTunes for this reader.

(An eclectic interest in archeoastronomy is not altogether a bad thing… and an economic PREcession might be a chance to improve matters greatly.)