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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/trash-talk-prime-time-edition/comment-page-2/#comment-122070</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jets-Dolphins moved to 4 p.m. Sunday&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jets-Dolphins moved to 4 p.m. Sunday</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not to mention they can never keep Bob Sanders on the field, and he is every bit as important to their defense as Merriman is to the Chargers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention they can never keep Bob Sanders on the field, and he is every bit as important to their defense as Merriman is to the Chargers.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, and I think a pro coach has to be able to coax the guys who weren’t stars in college and turn them into great pro players–because the requirements are different. BillBel did nothing before NE. But he did manage to take a fifth or sixth round former college backup and get him through a pretty good first starting season. He’s good at using people in whatever role they can play and making less great players play better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Merriman was a huge loss his year, but other teams have overcome that kind of loss more effectively. Hell, that Colts had no offensive line for the first five weeks, and they’re gonna beat your Bolts, most likely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, and I think a pro coach has to be able to coax the guys who weren’t stars in college and turn them into great pro players–because the requirements are different. BillBel did nothing before NE. But he did manage to take a fifth or sixth round former college backup and get him through a pretty good first starting season. He’s good at using people in whatever role they can play and making less great players play better.</p>
<p>Merriman was a huge loss his year, but other teams have overcome that kind of loss more effectively. Hell, that Colts had no offensive line for the first five weeks, and they’re gonna beat your Bolts, most likely.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Might as well give it back; you’ll never go very far with Norval Turner.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve been thinking about this a lot. Most of SD wants him to walk the plank, I’m torn about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My head says this is exactly right, and they may as well get started on a successor. My heart says I don’t want to go through another coaching change, and I want Norv to do well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My head watches guys like BillBel and Fisher and especially the hated Shanahan do a lot more with less, and realizes Bmaz is right. Denver had a half-dozen major injuries this year at least, teh Bolts had one big one and few others early on. Uninspired teams, inconsistent play, unimaginative play-calling, etc, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My heart wants to believe that beating two great teams to make the AFC Championship game last year wasn’t a fluke, and that Shanahan was no great shakes in Oakland either, and BillBel didn’t do much before NE, etc, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s what I see, and here’s the question I have: Chargers players who seem to think that because they are talented, they will win games and make the playoffs.  That won’t cut it in the NFL, you have to earn it and beat people. Even on the worst NFL teams, every guy out there was a star on his college team, and they will beat you.  Besides having veteran players to counsel younger ones, how do you deal with that?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does that fall on the head coach? If so, Norv is guilty as hell.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Might as well give it back; you’ll never go very far with Norval Turner.</em></p>
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<p>I’ve been thinking about this a lot. Most of SD wants him to walk the plank, I’m torn about it.</p>
<p>My head says this is exactly right, and they may as well get started on a successor. My heart says I don’t want to go through another coaching change, and I want Norv to do well.</p>
<p>My head watches guys like BillBel and Fisher and especially the hated Shanahan do a lot more with less, and realizes Bmaz is right. Denver had a half-dozen major injuries this year at least, teh Bolts had one big one and few others early on. Uninspired teams, inconsistent play, unimaginative play-calling, etc, etc.</p>
<p>My heart wants to believe that beating two great teams to make the AFC Championship game last year wasn’t a fluke, and that Shanahan was no great shakes in Oakland either, and BillBel didn’t do much before NE, etc, etc.</p>
<p>Here’s what I see, and here’s the question I have: Chargers players who seem to think that because they are talented, they will win games and make the playoffs.  That won’t cut it in the NFL, you have to earn it and beat people. Even on the worst NFL teams, every guy out there was a star on his college team, and they will beat you.  Besides having veteran players to counsel younger ones, how do you deal with that?  </p>
<p>Does that fall on the head coach? If so, Norv is guilty as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And you were harassing randiego last week about stating that the Bolts were still in it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ouch. Dude, I swear I wasn’t gonna bring it up…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And you were harassing randiego last week about stating that the Bolts were still in it. </p>
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<p>Ouch. Dude, I swear I wasn’t gonna bring it up…</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;one more chance for the primordial ooze to jerk yer chain, huh ???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But what do the Bolts have to beat Indy with?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who cares? Two weeks ago Denver was 8-5, teh Bolts 5-8. Done. Stick a fork in ‘em. We had plans for dinner with friends next sunday, but now that’s over.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>one more chance for the primordial ooze to jerk yer chain, huh ???</p>
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<blockquote><p>But what do the Bolts have to beat Indy with?</p>
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<p>Who cares? Two weeks ago Denver was 8-5, teh Bolts 5-8. Done. Stick a fork in ‘em. We had plans for dinner with friends next sunday, but now that’s over.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well what do the Pats have for the Colts?  If the Pats can’t beat Arizona by more than 40, how they gonna stay on the same field with Peyton?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well what do the Pats have for the Colts?  If the Pats can’t beat Arizona by more than 40, how they gonna stay on the same field with Peyton?</p>
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		<title>By: BayStateLibrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayStateLibrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes. Indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
Be kind to strangers week, as Ryan notes…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“It is a playoff-worthy team but it may not be in the playoffs. And it will ultimately depend on the kindness of strangers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Indeed.<br />
Be kind to strangers week, as Ryan notes…</p>
<p>“It is a playoff-worthy team but it may not be in the playoffs. And it will ultimately depend on the kindness of strangers.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And you were harassing randiego last week about stating that the Bolts were still in it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You gotta figure, Phillip Rivers is gonna beat Cutler next week, with the way he’s been playing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what do the Bolts have to beat Indy with?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you were harassing randiego last week about stating that the Bolts were still in it. </p>
<p>You gotta figure, Phillip Rivers is gonna beat Cutler next week, with the way he’s been playing.</p>
<p>But what do the Bolts have to beat Indy with?</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, I’m glad you finally picked up my Mangy Mangini thing. I know BillBel got caught taping and all, but this guy revealed that a team he had been affiliated with for years had been taping, all for apparent advantage and not principle. He’s got that wormtongue side to him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But here’s the funny thing. In addition to you and me and Neil and BSL, you know who else will be rooting for Mangini next week? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BillBel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HAHAHAHAHAHA&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even I can appreciate the humor in that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I’m glad you finally picked up my Mangy Mangini thing. I know BillBel got caught taping and all, but this guy revealed that a team he had been affiliated with for years had been taping, all for apparent advantage and not principle. He’s got that wormtongue side to him.</p>
<p>But here’s the funny thing. In addition to you and me and Neil and BSL, you know who else will be rooting for Mangini next week? </p>
<p>BillBel.</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>Even I can appreciate the humor in that.</p>
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