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	<title>Comments on: Liveblog of the Dan Quayle Bailout</title>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121927</link>
		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Snow and Quayle are lobbyists for Cerberus.  The beneficiaries are the consortium that invested in GMAC and Chrysler with borrowed money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow and Quayle are lobbyists for Cerberus.  The beneficiaries are the consortium that invested in GMAC and Chrysler with borrowed money.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121642</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey BooRadley, in case you find your way back, here’s a particularly delicious sentence from a NYT article about Cerberus, in case you missed it:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mr. Snow and Mr. Feinberg declined to comment for this article. &lt;strong&gt;Cerberus does not have much of its own money riding on Chrysler and GMAC.&lt;/strong&gt; The two investments amount to about 7 percent of its assets under management, and this past July Cerberus and its co-investors lent $2 billion to Chrysler. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From NYT “Crysler’s Friends in High Places”, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/06/business/06chrysler.html?scp=2&amp;sq=Cerberus&amp;st=Search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12.....;st=Search&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, I’m sure Cerberus doesn’t have much of ITS OWN money riding on Chrysler.&lt;br /&gt;
It has a little bit of its own, and has ‘hedged’, ‘leveraged’, or whatever-they’re-calling-it-today.  Which it has now set up the rest of us to cover, no doubt in some clause in that agreement.&lt;br /&gt;
So they’ve ‘hedged’ that the US Federal Treasury will cover those bets; why not? It worked for Wall Street, so why not this time out, too?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wouldn’t want to be running for election when citizens figure out that the TARP $$ has been covering hedges that went south, and Cerberus’s move on GMAC is Phase ? in this ongoing nightmare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ferrarimanf355 - go over to NYT and search on “Cerberus”, or else just google “Cerberus + GM”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BooRadley, in case you find your way back, here’s a particularly delicious sentence from a NYT article about Cerberus, in case you missed it:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Snow and Mr. Feinberg declined to comment for this article. <strong>Cerberus does not have much of its own money riding on Chrysler and GMAC.</strong> The two investments amount to about 7 percent of its assets under management, and this past July Cerberus and its co-investors lent $2 billion to Chrysler. </p>
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<p>From NYT “Crysler’s Friends in High Places”, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/06/business/06chrysler.html?scp=2&amp;sq=Cerberus&amp;st=Search" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12&#8230;..;st=Search</a></p>
<p>No, I’m sure Cerberus doesn’t have much of ITS OWN money riding on Chrysler.<br />
It has a little bit of its own, and has ‘hedged’, ‘leveraged’, or whatever-they’re-calling-it-today.  Which it has now set up the rest of us to cover, no doubt in some clause in that agreement.<br />
So they’ve ‘hedged’ that the US Federal Treasury will cover those bets; why not? It worked for Wall Street, so why not this time out, too?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t want to be running for election when citizens figure out that the TARP $$ has been covering hedges that went south, and Cerberus’s move on GMAC is Phase ? in this ongoing nightmare.</p>
<p>ferrarimanf355 &#8211; go over to NYT and search on “Cerberus”, or else just google “Cerberus + GM”.</p>
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		<title>By: ferrarimanf355</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121453</link>
		<dc:creator>ferrarimanf355</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t know how Quayle has anything to do with this. Does he have any power within Cerberus?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t know how Quayle has anything to do with this. Does he have any power within Cerberus?</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121447</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oil went up to 147 during the time BUsh/McCain was threatening war with Iran. Saudi’s said that if the (oil) region was in war oil may not flow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil went up to 147 during the time BUsh/McCain was threatening war with Iran. Saudi’s said that if the (oil) region was in war oil may not flow.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121446</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The stock market is manipulated. GOP stock channel announced during that 700 b crisis that green energy would not get any money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stock market is manipulated. GOP stock channel announced during that 700 b crisis that green energy would not get any money.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, appreciate the sentiments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, my entire family doesn’t have a lot of sympathy for my kid brother. We’ve warned him for nearly a year to change jobs and take his engineering degree somewhere else.  He’s made decent money and could have paid his inexpensive house off, so if he’s in financial straits we’ll have a tough time being charitable about it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like tough love, but everybody in my family knew this was coming, could see the handwriting on the wall with Chrysler’s troubles.  There are other more personal details here, trust me on this; there’s no excuse for him to have stayed until this “detonated,” and far more reasons for him to have left.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He serves as an indicator, though, that this mess is spreading, and it’s personal.  At this point nearly all of us in and out of the blogosphere know somebody who’ll be directly impacted.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, appreciate the sentiments.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, my entire family doesn’t have a lot of sympathy for my kid brother. We’ve warned him for nearly a year to change jobs and take his engineering degree somewhere else.  He’s made decent money and could have paid his inexpensive house off, so if he’s in financial straits we’ll have a tough time being charitable about it.</p>
<p>Sounds like tough love, but everybody in my family knew this was coming, could see the handwriting on the wall with Chrysler’s troubles.  There are other more personal details here, trust me on this; there’s no excuse for him to have stayed until this “detonated,” and far more reasons for him to have left.</p>
<p>He serves as an indicator, though, that this mess is spreading, and it’s personal.  At this point nearly all of us in and out of the blogosphere know somebody who’ll be directly impacted.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121443</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We are closing the gap at light speed.  And as long as gas is cheap, people will want to drive the older, bigger, more powerful cars.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are closing the gap at light speed.  And as long as gas is cheap, people will want to drive the older, bigger, more powerful cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunner</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121430</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I feel bad for Mr E W  poor Guy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for Mr E W  poor Guy!</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/liveblog-of-the-dan-quayle-bailout/#comment-121421</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cuba has no cash to buy an alternative we still do I think.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuba has no cash to buy an alternative we still do I think.</p>
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		<title>By: RieszFischer</title>
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		<dc:creator>RieszFischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I should come here more often.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should come here more often.</p>
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