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	<title>Comments on: Chrysler Closes ALL Its Plants</title>
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		<title>By: biodieselvw</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/17/shutdown-chrysler-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-121201</link>
		<dc:creator>biodieselvw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An extra 2 weeks over normal practice for the holidays.  OH NO!  They’re going under!!!!  Where are all the libs gonna get their pt cruisers from?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An extra 2 weeks over normal practice for the holidays.  OH NO!  They’re going under!!!!  Where are all the libs gonna get their pt cruisers from?</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/17/shutdown-chrysler-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-121133</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s more on Army officer April Gallop, the woman suing both Rumsfeld and Cheney for their failure to evacuate the Pentagon - in her own words - on what she saw and heard at the Pentagon on 9/11:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radiodujour.com/people/gallop_april/index.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.radiodujour.com/peo.....ndex.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The full text of the motion filed with the court is here, and it is a MUST READ:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2008/911_survivor_blasts_Rumsfeld_Cheney_No_1217.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._1217.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s more on Army officer April Gallop, the woman suing both Rumsfeld and Cheney for their failure to evacuate the Pentagon &#8211; in her own words &#8211; on what she saw and heard at the Pentagon on 9/11:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.radiodujour.com/people/gallop_april/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.radiodujour.com/peo&#8230;..ndex.shtml</a></p>
<p>The full text of the motion filed with the court is here, and it is a MUST READ:</p>
<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/911_survivor_blasts_Rumsfeld_Cheney_No_1217.html" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/news/2008/&#8230;.._1217.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/17/shutdown-chrysler-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-121132</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now, my 5am brain says that that could work, subject to a lenders’ conference maybe. All it would take would be an actual desire to find a solution before the separate lenders start pulling plugs. One reason it seems so clear that some gaming is going on is that the fundamental problem should be a matter of the kinds of short-term adjustments (and maybe a routine merger for Chrysler-Cerberus) that businessfolk do every day. Suddenly, though, they don’t know ass from elbow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile the “neo-Confederate” take on this whole thing is more and more being called what it is:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/12/18/third_reconstruction/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Economic Civil War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the early 20th century, the Southern states were the first to adopt conscious statewide economic development policies, which then as now meant poaching industries from New England and the Midwest where wages and public spending and regulation were greater. That’s how the South took the textile industry from New England, before losing it to lower-wage Asia.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lind, refering to the New Deal as a Second Reconstruction of the South, calls for a Third one that levels the labor market, public services, and regulatory playing field between the neo-Union (once again!) and neo-Confederacy &lt;i&gt;up&lt;/i&gt;, as the only way to avoid ending this turn of the screw with only the gang of Corkers in the South (he doesn’t say it, but also those up-South who get compensated out of derivatives slush funds and the like) better off, and ordinary Americans everywhere much worse off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, my 5am brain says that that could work, subject to a lenders’ conference maybe. All it would take would be an actual desire to find a solution before the separate lenders start pulling plugs. One reason it seems so clear that some gaming is going on is that the fundamental problem should be a matter of the kinds of short-term adjustments (and maybe a routine merger for Chrysler-Cerberus) that businessfolk do every day. Suddenly, though, they don’t know ass from elbow.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the “neo-Confederate” take on this whole thing is more and more being called what it is:</p>
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<a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/12/18/third_reconstruction/" rel="nofollow">The Economic Civil War</a></p>
<p>In the early 20th century, the Southern states were the first to adopt conscious statewide economic development policies, which then as now meant poaching industries from New England and the Midwest where wages and public spending and regulation were greater. That’s how the South took the textile industry from New England, before losing it to lower-wage Asia.
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<p>Lind, refering to the New Deal as a Second Reconstruction of the South, calls for a Third one that levels the labor market, public services, and regulatory playing field between the neo-Union (once again!) and neo-Confederacy <i>up</i>, as the only way to avoid ending this turn of the screw with only the gang of Corkers in the South (he doesn’t say it, but also those up-South who get compensated out of derivatives slush funds and the like) better off, and ordinary Americans everywhere much worse off.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/17/shutdown-chrysler-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-121131</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very interesting read, that link.  I note this bit excerpted in that content:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One developing problem in the auto makers’ pursuit of government rescue funds is the state of Chrysler’s collateral. Unlike GM, which has assets it can pledge or use as collateral for a federal loan, Cerberus is believed to have pledged all of Chrysler’s assets in the summer of 2007 as security for &lt;strong&gt;$10 billion in bank debt&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Emphasis mine.  There’s where TARP could be used; Treasury “rescues” the bank(s) holding the debt in exchange for equity.  Treasury does likewise with any outstanding paper on GM, then “comingles” the assets into a new venture.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting read, that link.  I note this bit excerpted in that content:</p>
<blockquote><p>One developing problem in the auto makers’ pursuit of government rescue funds is the state of Chrysler’s collateral. Unlike GM, which has assets it can pledge or use as collateral for a federal loan, Cerberus is believed to have pledged all of Chrysler’s assets in the summer of 2007 as security for <strong>$10 billion in bank debt</strong>.</p>
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<p>Emphasis mine.  There’s where TARP could be used; Treasury “rescues” the bank(s) holding the debt in exchange for equity.  Treasury does likewise with any outstanding paper on GM, then “comingles” the assets into a new venture.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, that’s ONLY Chrysler.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It doesn’t include my husband’s company as an equipment supplier, for example.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gah.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that’s ONLY Chrysler.</p>
<p>It doesn’t include my husband’s company as an equipment supplier, for example.</p>
<p>Gah.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think I’ve figured out Bush’s plan to save the big 2.5: He’s gonna offer all the union workers jobs– in Iraq, reviving the Iraqi Automobile industry. Or serving in the Army, in a special Corps. After all, they need all those mechanics to keep the HumVees going, don’t they?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I’ve figured out Bush’s plan to save the big 2.5: He’s gonna offer all the union workers jobs– in Iraq, reviving the Iraqi Automobile industry. Or serving in the Army, in a special Corps. After all, they need all those mechanics to keep the HumVees going, don’t they?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From Yves, more games from Cerberus (Tanta was surely right: that name is insultingly bold):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NakedCapitalism/~3/7SrrVGynB_A/not-good-sign-cerberus-reopens-talks-to.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Not a Good Sign: Cerberus Reopens Talks to Merge Chrysler With GM&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Emphasis on the delaying effect, no doubt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;pdaly — and a big one, or should I say bundle of them, expires the next day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Yves, more games from Cerberus (Tanta was surely right: that name is insultingly bold):</p>
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<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/NakedCapitalism/~3/7SrrVGynB_A/not-good-sign-cerberus-reopens-talks-to.html" rel="nofollow">Not a Good Sign: Cerberus Reopens Talks to Merge Chrysler With GM</a>
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<p>Emphasis on the delaying effect, no doubt.</p>
<p>pdaly — and a big one, or should I say bundle of them, expires the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: pdaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Looks like several &lt;strike&gt;calls&lt;/strike&gt; options expire the previous week”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Looks like several <strike>calls</strike> options expire the previous week”</p>
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		<title>By: pdaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>pdaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jan 19. Why midmonth? and why on a Monday?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I checked the Jan 2009 options &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.optionsclearing.com/publications/xcal/xcal2009.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;calendar&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like several calls expire the previous week:&lt;br /&gt;
Thurs 1/15/09: “A.M.  settled index options cease trading”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fri 1/16/09:  “expiring equity, P.M. settled index options and treasury/interest rate option classes cease trading. Expiring cash-settled options cease trading at 12pm EST.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Saturday 1/17/09: “Equity, index, cash-settled currency and treasury/interest rate option expiration date”&lt;br /&gt;
(footnote: “Equity LEAPS expire in January. Index LEAPS expire in December or January”)&lt;br /&gt;
And Monday Jan 19, 2009 is “Exchange holiday”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The calendar points back to the theory that GM and the other autos failure in January may bring good tidings to investors waiting and praying for the auto failure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan 19. Why midmonth? and why on a Monday?</p>
<p>I checked the Jan 2009 options <a href="http://www.optionsclearing.com/publications/xcal/xcal2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">calendar</a>:</p>
<p>Looks like several calls expire the previous week:<br />
Thurs 1/15/09: “A.M.  settled index options cease trading”</p>
<p>Fri 1/16/09:  “expiring equity, P.M. settled index options and treasury/interest rate option classes cease trading. Expiring cash-settled options cease trading at 12pm EST.”</p>
<p>Saturday 1/17/09: “Equity, index, cash-settled currency and treasury/interest rate option expiration date”<br />
(footnote: “Equity LEAPS expire in January. Index LEAPS expire in December or January”)<br />
And Monday Jan 19, 2009 is “Exchange holiday”</p>
<p>The calendar points back to the theory that GM and the other autos failure in January may bring good tidings to investors waiting and praying for the auto failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lordy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lordy.</p>
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