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	<title>Comments on: Trash Talk &#8211; The Axe Starts To Fall Edition</title>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;10 &amp; 4 ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no pick on the thursday game ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4 losses gets ya a second place tie in our pool&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cleveland Philly is not a factor (nobody picked Cleveland)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;youse a pretty good picker …&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and people should listen to Randiego, he speaks from experience&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he’s seen what Oklahoma’s defense is capable of&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 &amp; 4 ???</p>
<p>no pick on the thursday game ???</p>
<p>4 losses gets ya a second place tie in our pool</p>
<p>Cleveland Philly is not a factor (nobody picked Cleveland)</p>
<p><em>youse a pretty good picker …</em></p>
<p>and people should listen to Randiego, he speaks from experience</p>
<p>he’s seen what Oklahoma’s defense is capable of</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/14/trash-talk-the-axe-starts-to-fall-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-120389</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That 5.5 will be going up, not down. Texas will crush OSU. OU will beat Florida. Tech will handle Ole Miss easily. USC will embarrass JoePa.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that is all correct, except the title game is a pick em between Fla. and OK&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That 5.5 will be going up, not down. Texas will crush OSU. OU will beat Florida. Tech will handle Ole Miss easily. USC will embarrass JoePa.</p>
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<p>I think that is all correct, except the title game is a pick em between Fla. and OK</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;MIN&lt;/b&gt; v ARI +1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;PIT&lt;/b&gt; v BAL  +1&lt;br /&gt;
DEN v &lt;b&gt;CAR &lt;/b&gt; +1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;NE&lt;/b&gt; v OAK +1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;NYG&lt;/b&gt; v DAL –1&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;10-4&lt;br /&gt;
CLE v &lt;b&gt;PHI&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>MIN</b> v ARI +1<br /><b>PIT</b> v BAL  +1<br />
DEN v <b>CAR </b> +1<br /><b>NE</b> v OAK +1<br /><b>NYG</b> v DAL –1</p>
<p>10-4<br />
CLE v <b>PHI</b></p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm, lots of smack talk about the Big 12 offenses and defenses. Those offenses all look pretty innovative to me, and OU and Texas get some of the best athletes in the country, so I’m not buying the weak defenses thing. I think the conference was just strong this year.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tech is a 5 and half point fave right now, but I look for Ole Miss to win pretty big. Gators are a three point pick but I say it’s going to be quite a bit more than that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;damn bro, what you been smoking - ya got to share man!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That 5.5 will be going up, not down. Texas will crush OSU. OU will beat Florida. Tech will handle Ole Miss easily. USC will embarrass JoePa.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, lots of smack talk about the Big 12 offenses and defenses. Those offenses all look pretty innovative to me, and OU and Texas get some of the best athletes in the country, so I’m not buying the weak defenses thing. I think the conference was just strong this year.</p>
<blockquote><p>Tech is a 5 and half point fave right now, but I look for Ole Miss to win pretty big. Gators are a three point pick but I say it’s going to be quite a bit more than that.</p>
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<p>damn bro, what you been smoking &#8211; ya got to share man!</p>
<p>That 5.5 will be going up, not down. Texas will crush OSU. OU will beat Florida. Tech will handle Ole Miss easily. USC will embarrass JoePa.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;any shotty coached team is automatically considered “crippled” just by shotty’s presence&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can’t disagree with that. I will say that the offenses under Cam Cameron were more innovative, less predictable than the vanilla stuff that Norv is running.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>any shotty coached team is automatically considered “crippled” just by shotty’s presence</p>
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<p>Can’t disagree with that. I will say that the offenses under Cam Cameron were more innovative, less predictable than the vanilla stuff that Norv is running.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes yes, much improved.  The west division of both conferences are simply pathetic this year.  EW is right, they are fodder for the wild card teams.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes yes, much improved.  The west division of both conferences are simply pathetic this year.  EW is right, they are fodder for the wild card teams.</p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ahem. I just re-read, I DID say “playoff hunt”. I stand corrected, they are only NOT mathematically eliminated, not “In the hunt”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Better?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem. I just re-read, I DID say “playoff hunt”. I stand corrected, they are only NOT mathematically eliminated, not “In the hunt”.</p>
<p>Better?</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;how did a crippled team fight their way into the AFC Championship game last year? Schottenheimer never could…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;point of order&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;any shotty coached team is automatically considered “crippled” just by shotty’s presence&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>how did a crippled team fight their way into the AFC Championship game last year? Schottenheimer never could…</p>
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<p>point of order</p>
<p>any shotty coached team is automatically considered “crippled” just by shotty’s presence</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heh Nolan Cromwell was one of my favorite players back then.  John Lynch before John Lynch was out of diapers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh Nolan Cromwell was one of my favorite players back then.  John Lynch before John Lynch was out of diapers.</p>
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		<title>By: JimWhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimWhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;By the way EW and JimWhite, on ESPN this morning, Chris Mortenson said he think the Pats are the kind of team that is going to draft Tebow for his smarts, versatility and toughness. I think he is on to something there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Coupla things here:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.  I don’t see how Tebow could ever go over to the dark side and play for a team that cheats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2.  Definitely on the smarts.  I’m thinking there’s a good chance Tebow will call the plays in the championship game.  Nobody spends more time in the film room and the offensive coordinator just took the Mississippi State job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3.  Also on the versatility and toughness.  In the SEC championship game, if that last drive for Alabama had gotten close to the goal line, I think they should have put him in at linebacker.  He would have blown up the play at the line of scrimmage out of pure effort.  I don’t think the situation will come up in Miami, it’s not going to be very close.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, I’m thinking he might be another Nolan Cromwell (the Jayhawk QB in my undergrad days) and wind up in the NFL as a safety.  He understands offense, is smart, quick and can pack a hell of a wallop.  He’d be big for a safety, but do you think Moss or T.O. would want to run a route across the middle in front of him?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okay, yeah, three is more than a couple…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>By the way EW and JimWhite, on ESPN this morning, Chris Mortenson said he think the Pats are the kind of team that is going to draft Tebow for his smarts, versatility and toughness. I think he is on to something there.</p>
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<p>Coupla things here:</p>
<p>1.  I don’t see how Tebow could ever go over to the dark side and play for a team that cheats.</p>
<p>2.  Definitely on the smarts.  I’m thinking there’s a good chance Tebow will call the plays in the championship game.  Nobody spends more time in the film room and the offensive coordinator just took the Mississippi State job.</p>
<p>3.  Also on the versatility and toughness.  In the SEC championship game, if that last drive for Alabama had gotten close to the goal line, I think they should have put him in at linebacker.  He would have blown up the play at the line of scrimmage out of pure effort.  I don’t think the situation will come up in Miami, it’s not going to be very close.</p>
<p>Also, I’m thinking he might be another Nolan Cromwell (the Jayhawk QB in my undergrad days) and wind up in the NFL as a safety.  He understands offense, is smart, quick and can pack a hell of a wallop.  He’d be big for a safety, but do you think Moss or T.O. would want to run a route across the middle in front of him?</p>
<p>Okay, yeah, three is more than a couple…</p>
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