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		<title>By: KilljoyTXinMI</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119946</link>
		<dc:creator>KilljoyTXinMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Norske- &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding the “ACTION MEMO” that Gettlefinger mentioned today (didn’t listen to Big Eddie today), here’s the link to the transcript, and the item you were talking about: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/12/cnr.02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA.....nr.02.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;QUESTION: Mr. Gettelfinger, I know you’ve heard this before. Is there a possibility that there was a master plan that this movement was all part of an effort to oust or break the UAW, to keep them out of right-to-work states?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GETTELFINGER: &lt;em&gt;Well, I’m going to answer that question this way. I have in my hand a document that was provided to us. I’m going to say up front that the “from” was deleted from it when it was given to us and the “to.” It’s an e-mail. It was an action alert called “auto bailout.” It says, and this was Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 at 9:12 a.m.. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today at noon, Senators Ensign, Shelby, Coburn and DeMint will hold a press conference in the Senate radio TV gallery. They would appreciate our support through messaging and attending the press conference if possible. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The message they want us to deliver is, one, this is the Democrats’ first opportunity to pay off organized labor after the election. This is a precursor to card check and other items. Republicans should stand firm and take their first shot against organized labor instead of taking their first blow from it. Number two, this rush to judgment is the same thing that happened with the T.A.R.P. members do not have an opportunity to read or digest the legislation, and, therefore, could not understand the consequences of it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should not rush to pass this because Detroit says the sky is falling. The sooner you can have press releases and documents like this in the hands of members in the press, the better. Please contact me if you need additional information. Again, the hardest thing for the Democrats to do is get 60 votes. If we can hold the Republicans, we can beat this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;And again, I will stipulate that when I received this document, this is the way I got it. The “from” is not there, and the “to” is not there. But our sources, and you understand sources, our sources indicate to us this was put out by staffers on the Republican side of the aisle.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There was another question that was also interesting (my emphasis):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;QUESTION: Ron, is there anything that the UAW can do to help them limp into January if they have to?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GETTELFINGER: &lt;em&gt;We did our research department if we work for nothing. You got to remember, &lt;strong&gt;we’re 10 percent of the labor cost. If we worked for nothing, it wouldn’t help them limp into January&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Plantation Caucus are simply lying pigs. (I was a bit more polite in the emails I sent to Shelby and McConnell last night)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norske- </p>
<p>Regarding the “ACTION MEMO” that Gettlefinger mentioned today (didn’t listen to Big Eddie today), here’s the link to the transcript, and the item you were talking about: </p>
<p><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/12/cnr.02.html" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA&#8230;..nr.02.html</a></p>
<p>QUESTION: Mr. Gettelfinger, I know you’ve heard this before. Is there a possibility that there was a master plan that this movement was all part of an effort to oust or break the UAW, to keep them out of right-to-work states?</p>
<p>GETTELFINGER: <em>Well, I’m going to answer that question this way. I have in my hand a document that was provided to us. I’m going to say up front that the “from” was deleted from it when it was given to us and the “to.” It’s an e-mail. It was an action alert called “auto bailout.” It says, and this was Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 at 9:12 a.m.. </em></p>
<blockquote><p>Today at noon, Senators Ensign, Shelby, Coburn and DeMint will hold a press conference in the Senate radio TV gallery. They would appreciate our support through messaging and attending the press conference if possible. </p>
<p>The message they want us to deliver is, one, this is the Democrats’ first opportunity to pay off organized labor after the election. This is a precursor to card check and other items. Republicans should stand firm and take their first shot against organized labor instead of taking their first blow from it. Number two, this rush to judgment is the same thing that happened with the T.A.R.P. members do not have an opportunity to read or digest the legislation, and, therefore, could not understand the consequences of it. </p>
<p>We should not rush to pass this because Detroit says the sky is falling. The sooner you can have press releases and documents like this in the hands of members in the press, the better. Please contact me if you need additional information. Again, the hardest thing for the Democrats to do is get 60 votes. If we can hold the Republicans, we can beat this.</p>
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<p><em>And again, I will stipulate that when I received this document, this is the way I got it. The “from” is not there, and the “to” is not there. But our sources, and you understand sources, our sources indicate to us this was put out by staffers on the Republican side of the aisle.</em></p>
<p>There was another question that was also interesting (my emphasis):</p>
<p>QUESTION: Ron, is there anything that the UAW can do to help them limp into January if they have to?</p>
<p>GETTELFINGER: <em>We did our research department if we work for nothing. You got to remember, <strong>we’re 10 percent of the labor cost. If we worked for nothing, it wouldn’t help them limp into January</strong>.</em></p>
<p>The Plantation Caucus are simply lying pigs. (I was a bit more polite in the emails I sent to Shelby and McConnell last night)</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119935</link>
		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ll have to Nash this all while I’m Ramblin. Can’t stop now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ll have to Nash this all while I’m Ramblin. Can’t stop now.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119934</link>
		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“California here we come,&lt;br /&gt;
Right back where we started from.” *G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“California here we come,<br />
Right back where we started from.” *G*</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119922</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fair enough. I won’t be Lincoln to this thread.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fair enough. I won’t be Lincoln to this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: MrWhy</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119915</link>
		<dc:creator>MrWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suggest that appropriate punnishment for these puns is Fordy lashes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest that appropriate punnishment for these puns is Fordy lashes.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119912</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alfa better in the morning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfa better in the morning.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119910</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yteMugRAc0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hyundais&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yteMugRAc0" rel="nofollow">Hyundais</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119909</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I KIA’d you not.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KIA’d you not.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/shorter-governor-granholm/#comment-119908</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mustang, oh, in Paris…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mustang, oh, in Paris…</p>
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		<title>By: brandane</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Granholm is of Canadian extraction, she is smart, articulate and attractive but I dont think she is going to win her next election. Engler did such a great job of fucking up Michigan’s economy for 12 years before she was elected, she gets the blame for everything that is going wrong now. Perhaps Obama ought to pay attention to this, the american electorate has a short attention span.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granholm is of Canadian extraction, she is smart, articulate and attractive but I dont think she is going to win her next election. Engler did such a great job of fucking up Michigan’s economy for 12 years before she was elected, she gets the blame for everything that is going wrong now. Perhaps Obama ought to pay attention to this, the american electorate has a short attention span.</p>
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