Comments on: Fools On Hill Put Bullet In The Heartbeat Of America; World Markets Tank http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119691 Leen Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:47:31 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119691 <p>Dmac just posted this</p> <p>msnbc just announced that gm is going to cut production by 250,000 vehicles, will temporarily ‘close/shut down’ 21 plants. (’close/shut down’ not sure which words she used..and they didn’t say which vehicles’ production will be cut back.)<br /> reply</p> Dmac just posted this

msnbc just announced that gm is going to cut production by 250,000 vehicles, will temporarily ‘close/shut down’ 21 plants. (’close/shut down’ not sure which words she used..and they didn’t say which vehicles’ production will be cut back.)
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]]> By: Gerald http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119686 Gerald Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:41:55 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119686 <p>And one last word, and I will be quiet.</p> <p>I am truly disappointed that a deal wasn’t struck, but to go negative on everyone at this time is I think self defeating. There will be more than enough time for that later if all good efforts finally fail.</p> <p>I think everyone that wants a deal before bankruptcy including all the blogs should implore ”very politely” and ”sincerely” that Bush, and Mitch, and Corker, and others save the Auto Industry and save America’s industrial base.</p> <p>There are times when being a ”bitch” is self defeating.</p> And one last word, and I will be quiet.

I am truly disappointed that a deal wasn’t struck, but to go negative on everyone at this time is I think self defeating. There will be more than enough time for that later if all good efforts finally fail.

I think everyone that wants a deal before bankruptcy including all the blogs should implore ”very politely” and ”sincerely” that Bush, and Mitch, and Corker, and others save the Auto Industry and save America’s industrial base.

There are times when being a ”bitch” is self defeating.

]]> By: Gerald http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119681 Gerald Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:35:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119681 <p>Leen,</p> <p>the 3 words were ”a date certain.”</p> <p>He and Mitch wanted the UAW to give a near term date on changing their wage scale rather than waiting until their current contract expires in 2011.</p> Leen,

the 3 words were ”a date certain.”

He and Mitch wanted the UAW to give a near term date on changing their wage scale rather than waiting until their current contract expires in 2011.

]]> By: Gerald http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119680 Gerald Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:32:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119680 <p>Several points:</p> <p>First some, especially on Firedoglake, seem happy thinking that Bush will have to ”back off” his refusal to give TARP money. They think that is a sure thing because the White House threatened the Senate Republicans with it, but that is probably just rhetoric.<br /> Since when has Bush done anything that seemed logical or sensible? I wouldn’t bank on it.<br /> The only people that still like him is his 25% hardcore base, and my guess is that most of them are against the bailout.<br /> Bush isn’t going to win over the people at Firedoglake or many others of the 75% that hate him, so why should he risk the 25% true believers that he knows are with him.</p> <p>Second, all the Democrats + Independents (58 my last count) needed was 2 Republican votes and it seemed that they had 10 or so. So where is the introspection? ”Look to your own house” my mother used to say.</p> Several points:

First some, especially on Firedoglake, seem happy thinking that Bush will have to ”back off” his refusal to give TARP money. They think that is a sure thing because the White House threatened the Senate Republicans with it, but that is probably just rhetoric.
Since when has Bush done anything that seemed logical or sensible? I wouldn’t bank on it.
The only people that still like him is his 25% hardcore base, and my guess is that most of them are against the bailout.
Bush isn’t going to win over the people at Firedoglake or many others of the 75% that hate him, so why should he risk the 25% true believers that he knows are with him.

Second, all the Democrats + Independents (58 my last count) needed was 2 Republican votes and it seemed that they had 10 or so. So where is the introspection? ”Look to your own house” my mother used to say.

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119679 Leen Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:30:43 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119679 <p>Yesterday Corker said that this would not pass due to three words. Were those three words “lower their wages”. Was this the complete hangup? That the auto workers would not give a date to “lower their wages”</p> <p>Too bad Corker did not say to the auto workers look we will lower our wages if you folks will lower yours..</p> Yesterday Corker said that this would not pass due to three words. Were those three words “lower their wages”. Was this the complete hangup? That the auto workers would not give a date to “lower their wages”

Too bad Corker did not say to the auto workers look we will lower our wages if you folks will lower yours..

]]> By: klynn http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119673 klynn Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:21:46 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119673 <p>No evidence yet. Note: It would not be his first time to personally profit.</p> No evidence yet. Note: It would not be his first time to personally profit.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119657 bmaz Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:54:45 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119657 <p>You have evidence he personally profited? Or that he intentionally did it for the direct benefit of someone close to him? No. This is a screwed up mess, but there is nothing that is directly criminal. Without a heck of a lot more, this is just silly.</p> You have evidence he personally profited? Or that he intentionally did it for the direct benefit of someone close to him? No. This is a screwed up mess, but there is nothing that is directly criminal. Without a heck of a lot more, this is just silly.

]]> By: klynn http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119653 klynn Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:43:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119653 <p>Sorry I am still asking questions. What about charging Corker with SEC violations through stock manipulation via false rumors?</p> Sorry I am still asking questions. What about charging Corker with SEC violations through stock manipulation via false rumors?

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119642 bmaz Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:29:59 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119642 <p>It is in relation to their legislative function, likely still covered; even if not, no prosecutor in the world is going to charge this. A complete non-starter.</p> It is in relation to their legislative function, likely still covered; even if not, no prosecutor in the world is going to charge this. A complete non-starter.

]]> By: klynn http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119640 klynn Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:27:38 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/12/12/fools-on-hill-put-bullet-in-the-heartbeat-of-america-world-markets-tank/#comment-119640 <p>Bullseye. Add a bad economy into the mix and people end up emotionally beaten to the work for anything, just to attempt crumbs on the table.</p> <p>Sharecropping-r-us ….</p> Bullseye. Add a bad economy into the mix and people end up emotionally beaten to the work for anything, just to attempt crumbs on the table.

Sharecropping-r-us ….

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