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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So goes the auto unions, other unions to follow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The basic structure of the auto contracts is often copied by other groups in the Midwest, including teachers, state workers, police and firefighters. Outside the Midwest, other industries often mimic some auto contract provisions as well, including the airline and steel industries. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The UAW has blazed a lot of trails in the auto industry that have opened up in many other industries,” says Harley Shaiken, a professor of labor studies at the University of California, Berkeley. “For example, in the early 1950s, paid health care, pensions and job security were pioneered by the UAW.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/money/biztravel/2007-12-03-uaw_N.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.usatoday.com/money/.....-uaw_N.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So goes the auto unions, other unions to follow.</p>
<blockquote><p>The basic structure of the auto contracts is often copied by other groups in the Midwest, including teachers, state workers, police and firefighters. Outside the Midwest, other industries often mimic some auto contract provisions as well, including the airline and steel industries. </p>
<p>“The UAW has blazed a lot of trails in the auto industry that have opened up in many other industries,” says Harley Shaiken, a professor of labor studies at the University of California, Berkeley. “For example, in the early 1950s, paid health care, pensions and job security were pioneered by the UAW.”</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/biztravel/2007-12-03-uaw_N.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/money/&#8230;..-uaw_N.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am glad there is a policy “show me the plan and I’ll show you the money”.&lt;br /&gt;
I am glad there will be 6 days to discuss it before it’s voted on. I’d like to see someone else decide how the auto co’s spend that 25 billion if they get it. I don’t know, maybe Ralph Nadar or Michael Moore. I think either one would do a better job of managing that money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad there is a policy “show me the plan and I’ll show you the money”.<br />
I am glad there will be 6 days to discuss it before it’s voted on. I’d like to see someone else decide how the auto co’s spend that 25 billion if they get it. I don’t know, maybe Ralph Nadar or Michael Moore. I think either one would do a better job of managing that money.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, okay then.  I agree with that proposition. Maybe wordy, but a valid point.  There are some dedicated union busting efforts going on too.  And the insistence of some on bankruptcy is not about negotiating with the unions (again) but instead about busting them.  Pretty thinly disguised at best too I might add.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, okay then.  I agree with that proposition. Maybe wordy, but a valid point.  There are some dedicated union busting efforts going on too.  And the insistence of some on bankruptcy is not about negotiating with the unions (again) but instead about busting them.  Pretty thinly disguised at best too I might add.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe it is just the stress of not knowing if we will have a retirement check and health care next year.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is just the stress of not knowing if we will have a retirement check and health care next year.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Guess I was long winded, sorry. My point is without unions this is the type of conditions workers get. Look down below, Toyota plans to cut there pay to new hires by 50% and that was before talk of a recession. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In 2007, the Wall Street Journal noted, “Toyota Motor Company…now sets the bar for labor costs in the U.S. auto industry.” Recognition of that influence was echoed that same years by Automotive News: “Toyota is going to set the pattern for the entire industry – wages, benefits and pensions.”&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile the Big Three’s falling sales and market share have forced the American companies to adopt, and their workers to accept, two-tier wage and temporary worker schemes eerily similar to those used for years by Toyota – just to compete. And the race to the bottom seems to be just warming up. In September 2008, an internal Toyota memo leaked from its Georgetown, Kentucky plant, laid out management’s plans to cut $300 million in labor costs in its U.S. operations. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In April 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported that Toyota plans to end its practice of pegging its hourly wages to UAW rates, and will now pay new hires only 50 percent above the local prevailing wage. In Kentucky, this would mean a savings of about 12 percent, or $3.00 per worker hour – which, of course, will put even more of a squeeze on the Big Three U.S. auto companies and their unionized workforce. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess I was long winded, sorry. My point is without unions this is the type of conditions workers get. Look down below, Toyota plans to cut there pay to new hires by 50% and that was before talk of a recession. </p>
<blockquote><p>In 2007, the Wall Street Journal noted, “Toyota Motor Company…now sets the bar for labor costs in the U.S. auto industry.” Recognition of that influence was echoed that same years by Automotive News: “Toyota is going to set the pattern for the entire industry – wages, benefits and pensions.”<br />
Meanwhile the Big Three’s falling sales and market share have forced the American companies to adopt, and their workers to accept, two-tier wage and temporary worker schemes eerily similar to those used for years by Toyota – just to compete. And the race to the bottom seems to be just warming up. In September 2008, an internal Toyota memo leaked from its Georgetown, Kentucky plant, laid out management’s plans to cut $300 million in labor costs in its U.S. operations. </p>
<p>In April 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported that Toyota plans to end its practice of pegging its hourly wages to UAW rates, and will now pay new hires only 50 percent above the local prevailing wage. In Kentucky, this would mean a savings of about 12 percent, or $3.00 per worker hour – which, of course, will put even more of a squeeze on the Big Three U.S. auto companies and their unionized workforce. </p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Explain what the point of all this is or stop serially posting the “Corpwatch” encyclopedia Brittainica&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain what the point of all this is or stop serially posting the “Corpwatch” encyclopedia Brittainica</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Death from overwork in Japan is, sadly, neither uncommon nor unique to Toyota.  It ties in with the traditional culture of extreme dedication to one’s company, and the effect has been exacerbated by the long economic doldrums there, since companies have been trying to do more and more with less and less.  Not unrelatedly, there have been disturbing increases in suicide trends in Japanese society generally, especially among the unemployed, the underemployed, and the elderly.  Crime by the elderly — robberies of businesses mainly, to get money for food — is the new trend that’s caught my eye.  There is a youth brain drain and the average age is increasing rapidly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Japanese people are, in short, having an extremely hard decade.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death from overwork in Japan is, sadly, neither uncommon nor unique to Toyota.  It ties in with the traditional culture of extreme dedication to one’s company, and the effect has been exacerbated by the long economic doldrums there, since companies have been trying to do more and more with less and less.  Not unrelatedly, there have been disturbing increases in suicide trends in Japanese society generally, especially among the unemployed, the underemployed, and the elderly.  Crime by the elderly — robberies of businesses mainly, to get money for food — is the new trend that’s caught my eye.  There is a youth brain drain and the average age is increasing rapidly.</p>
<p>The Japanese people are, in short, having an extremely hard decade.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;In its zeal to “increase productivity,” Toyota presses its suppliers to produce more and more for less and less money. When there is a downturn in auto sales, the parts plants are the first to feel the pinch – and since a high percentage the workers at Toyota’s subcontract plants are temps, they are easily shed. Extensive, obligatory overtime is the rule, and it is very common for workers not to be paid correctly. For example, in one plant, workers interviewed normally worked 97-hour-weeks, typically receiving only one or two days off a month and no paid holidays. Some workers told investigators that their employers failed to pay what was owed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Toyota’s supplier plants also make extensive use of guest or “trainee” workers – under conditions that in some respects qualify as human trafficking: The workers, most of whom come from China and Vietnam, pay manpower agencies in their home countries as much as $8,000 to $10,000 for a two- or three-year contract.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
Despite this commitment, Toyota’s foreign workers in Japan are second-class citizens. On arrival the guest workers’ passports are confiscated.  During the first year as “trainees,” they are not covered by Japan’s labor or minimum wage laws. They work alongside Japanese workers, putting in the same long hours, but often earning less than half the minimum wage – as little as $2.76 an hour, or $479 a month. As guest workers, they are required to remain with the same employer – no matter how bad the working conditions – and to live in the company housing assigned to them – even though some are charged twice what their Japanese colleagues pay for comparable accommodations. Any worker who tries to change jobs, or who complains about conditions may be forcibly deported. By the time food, housing, and taxes are deducted, some guest workers end up earning less than $600 for an entire year, according to several advocacy organizations and unions that work with subcontract plant temp and guest workers.&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Toyota Tsusho (together with Suzuki) is working with the military-run Myanmar Auto and Diesel Industries (MADI) in the manufacture and sale of vehicles – including, presumably, vehicles used by the military. This collaboration with the military lends support to continued repression, the impoverishment of the Burmese people, and a broad pattern of human rights violation. In September 2007, according to the U.S. State Department, “the Burmese Government brutally cracked down on peaceful demonstrators, using gunfire, rubber bullets, batons, and tear gas against them and those observing in the vicinity. The authorities killed at least 30 people during the crackdown and arrested more than 3,000.” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15182&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15182&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In its zeal to “increase productivity,” Toyota presses its suppliers to produce more and more for less and less money. When there is a downturn in auto sales, the parts plants are the first to feel the pinch – and since a high percentage the workers at Toyota’s subcontract plants are temps, they are easily shed. Extensive, obligatory overtime is the rule, and it is very common for workers not to be paid correctly. For example, in one plant, workers interviewed normally worked 97-hour-weeks, typically receiving only one or two days off a month and no paid holidays. Some workers told investigators that their employers failed to pay what was owed. </p>
<p>Toyota’s supplier plants also make extensive use of guest or “trainee” workers – under conditions that in some respects qualify as human trafficking: The workers, most of whom come from China and Vietnam, pay manpower agencies in their home countries as much as $8,000 to $10,000 for a two- or three-year contract.<br />
…<br />
Despite this commitment, Toyota’s foreign workers in Japan are second-class citizens. On arrival the guest workers’ passports are confiscated.  During the first year as “trainees,” they are not covered by Japan’s labor or minimum wage laws. They work alongside Japanese workers, putting in the same long hours, but often earning less than half the minimum wage – as little as $2.76 an hour, or $479 a month. As guest workers, they are required to remain with the same employer – no matter how bad the working conditions – and to live in the company housing assigned to them – even though some are charged twice what their Japanese colleagues pay for comparable accommodations. Any worker who tries to change jobs, or who complains about conditions may be forcibly deported. By the time food, housing, and taxes are deducted, some guest workers end up earning less than $600 for an entire year, according to several advocacy organizations and unions that work with subcontract plant temp and guest workers.<br />
…</p>
<p>Toyota Tsusho (together with Suzuki) is working with the military-run Myanmar Auto and Diesel Industries (MADI) in the manufacture and sale of vehicles – including, presumably, vehicles used by the military. This collaboration with the military lends support to continued repression, the impoverishment of the Burmese people, and a broad pattern of human rights violation. In September 2007, according to the U.S. State Department, “the Burmese Government brutally cracked down on peaceful demonstrators, using gunfire, rubber bullets, batons, and tear gas against them and those observing in the vicinity. The authorities killed at least 30 people during the crackdown and arrested more than 3,000.” </p>
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<p><a href="http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15182" rel="nofollow">http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15182</a></p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So what exactly is your point with all this longwinded stuff?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what exactly is your point with all this longwinded stuff?</p>
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