He reports that there may have been a back door in to these systems that was compromised.

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/Ho…..Spying.htm

This is a good article to get a start on the topic
http://www.counterpunch.org/ketcham09272008.html

don’t.add.up

We Already Know Lieberman is a Traitor to the Dem Party.

So, he has Treachery in him…

And, he hasn’t shown any interest in actually Securing Our Homeland, either…

Plus, the Israelis can listen-in on any call in America…

Wouldn’t a reasonable, sensible person conclude that Joe’s loyalty is Not to US?

There’s got to be another shoe to drop on this story…the fucking weasel is in the birdcage here.

http://100777.com/usa/israeli_spyring

[1] Verizon is a private service provider, and provides that service with certain understandings, despite that most don’t read the fine print. Customer Obama would know, if he read them, that the service provider would reserve the right to review certain information about and generated by or in relation to the customer, including a range of ‘meta data’ – which according to the all the stories I’ve read on this so far appears to be what the fuss is about. That is: not the interception of the substance of private actor conversations [which might also have been going on, but that’s not what this is about], but data like – who the customer is phoning and who is phoning the customer and for how long – concerning which there are arguments, some quite rational, as to why the service provider SHOULD be allowed to review that, and in any event, that’s the deal with the customer – subject of course to PRIVACY concerns.

[2] The relationship between the Bush Administration generally and the US government intelligence community, particular the NSA, on the one hand, and the private communications service providers on the other, as we know, seems to have grown quite intimate, that is, mostly if not entirely unstructured by law, rules, regulations and policies which in any way limit invasion of privacy.

[Bamford knows all this as well as anyone living, certainly better than me I would think; certainly, his writings in general, and his latest book in particular, shows that to be so. We might have to nationalize him as an Official Treasure.]

[3] Remember Watergate? I think that word comes up from time to time in the security and legal offices of Verizon. Remember Lawrence Wright’s report in the New Yorker about his rather disturbing conversation with NSA McConnell?

[4] I suspect that Verizon has on staff, or near to staff, the sort of ‘political officers’ envisioned in the Plum book, and that Verizon AT THE VERY LEAST has reason to be concerned that whatever passed for a firewall between the function described in Item 1 and such persons may have been breached, and knows it.

[5] In an effort to get a handle on whether it was in fact breached, and in fact by a political officer, Verizon would have vacuumed up everyone with access to the data in question, regardless whether they actually used that access, and regardless for what purpose.

[6] Apparently Verizon has got wind of the outcome of recent federal election.

[7] In theory, all this might turn out to be quite innocent. On the other hand, when it comes to the Bush administration, that never seems to be the case.

[8] Those who think of Obama being a babe in the woods in relation to this or other subjects are being naive.

I do think IBM would differ w/proposition Israeli tech only ones capable of this, however. Beyond that, I was involved in security end of a comprehensive HIPAA product that hit ground running w/new regs in ‘01. If you’re familiar, all that was required for that pretty similar to what this thing would take. I’m pretty sure plenty of guys on this of pond who could’a got that job done.

Isn’t Bruce Schneier a bluebood ‘merican?

1. Israeli firms are very good in computer security, for some obvious and some not-so-obvious reasons. One often-overlooked reason is the emigration of Russian Jews to Israel. Depending on foreign companies for key sigint technology is problematic, no matter what country they’re from.

2. The whole story of the campaign computer hacking is suspicious. The specific leaks that Newsweek got were not intended to inform the American public. They were all about sending a message to somebody overseas. It’s not clear to me exactly what the message was or who it was intended for, but I agree with ew’s list of suspects, although it’s possible that another country (e.g. Iran) hired some Russians.

3. Nobody else in the world has the ability to handle the NSA’s data streams. Heck, the NSA really doesn’t have that ability. Other countries would only be interested in very highly targeted use of the technology and, as scandalous as it would be to discover other folks tapping our lines, that really represents much less of a threat to us than our on government.

4. I suspect the Verizon/Obama issue is similar to the passport snooping. People get curious about celebrities and start poking around. Very few companies have decent internal controls to prevent this sort of thing. Unfortunately, that means that a dedicated adversary can get to a lot of stuff that people think is safe.

5. If you really want to infiltrate a company, even one with really good internal controls, here’s what you need. Get some folks placed on the night time cleaning crew (that’s easy, most places don’t even look at the id, they don’t want to know that most of their cleaning crew are undocumented aliens). Recruit 2-4 server admin types (half *nix, half Windows), a couple of database guys (or even beter, gals cuz they will get hired anywhere) with data warehouse and master data management expertise, and 2-4 programmers to cover C++, Java, C#, VB, Python, Perl, and web technologies. With a team like that, you can essentially ‘own’ a company’s systems and they’ll never know. In case anybody is wondering, the reason I know this is because my job used to involve helping companies figure out how to prevent stuff like this. The computer security guys can’t stop this kind of attack by themselves. The only way to prevent it is have top notch technical folks with good security training and constant vigilance. Outside of the military/intelligence contracting field, that effort is very difficult to sustain.

Pffft. [/wisp of smoke rising]

That ” Israeli connected spooky side” was explored in detail by Fox News reporter Carl Cameron just months after 9/11. That four part report is worth the watch. Learn a fair amount about Amdocs, Comverse Infosys and Verints(sp?)

There are several F.B.I. files that have to do with the alleged Israeli art students and the moving company episode after 9/11 where Amdocs was involved with these students communication systems tracking the 9/11 terrorist. Allegedly some of these students were bailed out by some Amdocs hot shots.

Terri Gross interviewed Bamford just after the book came out and she did not go very far when this topic came up, in fact she went swiftly by when Bamford mentioned these Israeli based communication systems.

ya, they could refuse the “order” but then face reprisals, otherwise they could acquiesce and then turn into watch dog and report what they were forced to do

which is probably how this got out in the first place

this is why the company is saying they will be “penalized”, they are upset this information became public, they are not upset about the spying on president elect, they were counting on that information and now they won’t be able to use it