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	<title>Comments on: Joe and Dick: Looks Like Everything Went Swimmingly</title>
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		<title>By: behindthefall</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/13/joe-and-dick-looks-like-everything-went-swimmingly/comment-page-1/#comment-114058</link>
		<dc:creator>behindthefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He’s a trained blacksmith; good at shoeing racehorses.  As Mayor in RI?  Not much there.  But pleasant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He’s a trained blacksmith; good at shoeing racehorses.  As Mayor in RI?  Not much there.  But pleasant.</p>
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		<title>By: behindthefall</title>
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		<dc:creator>behindthefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like maybe Kerry’s natural field of effective operations might not be the Senate but somewhere else, somewhere like SoS.  Just wondering if the skill sets for the two might not be fairly divergent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like maybe Kerry’s natural field of effective operations might not be the Senate but somewhere else, somewhere like SoS.  Just wondering if the skill sets for the two might not be fairly divergent.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First, because Bush’s ego couldn’t take it.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, because the ideological headcases in the Neocon contingent couldn’t take it.&lt;br /&gt;
Third, b/c Rover wouldn’t have signed off for it.&lt;br /&gt;
Fourth, b/c Cheney had other plans and was wiring the system to screw Powell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FWIW, whoever Obama selects needs some really, really strong leadership in Africa.  The US has been so Euro-centric and also focused on Russia; Africa has too long been given short shrift IMHO.  In a ‘hot, flat, crowded’ planet a lot more attention needs to be paid to Africa IMHO.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, because Bush’s ego couldn’t take it.<br />
Second, because the ideological headcases in the Neocon contingent couldn’t take it.<br />
Third, b/c Rover wouldn’t have signed off for it.<br />
Fourth, b/c Cheney had other plans and was wiring the system to screw Powell.</p>
<p>FWIW, whoever Obama selects needs some really, really strong leadership in Africa.  The US has been so Euro-centric and also focused on Russia; Africa has too long been given short shrift IMHO.  In a ‘hot, flat, crowded’ planet a lot more attention needs to be paid to Africa IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your points make sense&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I always wondered why Bush did not appoint Clinton as an Ambassador to the UN.   This would have looked good for the Bush thugs&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your points make sense</p>
<p>I always wondered why Bush did not appoint Clinton as an Ambassador to the UN.   This would have looked good for the Bush thugs</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamOckham</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamOckham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No, I’m not saying that Obama or his team feel threatened by Bill. Hillary has two problems caused by Bill. First, we, as a society, don’t have a model for a successful and powerful politician whose spouse is an ex-President. That creates a ‘all bets are off’ dynamic that increases the percieved risk of appointing Hillary Clinton to any position. The second problem is that Bill Clinton is, well, Bill Clinton. If I wanted to put somebody’s picture in the dictionary to illustrate the concept of ‘loose cannon’, I’d pick Bill Clinton. He’s an enormously powerful ally who can inflict real damage on the opposition, but the blowback will, at the very least, damage a few toes on your side, and, at the worst, tear a hole in your ship…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Obama wants to get creative with the Clintons, I’d recommend he leave Hillary in the Senate and appoint Bill to be Ambassador to the UN. As you say, he’s got real cred with the rest of the world. He’d get to stay in New York City and he’d have a forum equal to his persona. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama needs to figure out how to deal with Bill Clinton, because Obama will likely end up in the same place, ex-Prez who’s too young to quit the stage entirely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I’m not saying that Obama or his team feel threatened by Bill. Hillary has two problems caused by Bill. First, we, as a society, don’t have a model for a successful and powerful politician whose spouse is an ex-President. That creates a ‘all bets are off’ dynamic that increases the percieved risk of appointing Hillary Clinton to any position. The second problem is that Bill Clinton is, well, Bill Clinton. If I wanted to put somebody’s picture in the dictionary to illustrate the concept of ‘loose cannon’, I’d pick Bill Clinton. He’s an enormously powerful ally who can inflict real damage on the opposition, but the blowback will, at the very least, damage a few toes on your side, and, at the worst, tear a hole in your ship…</p>
<p>If Obama wants to get creative with the Clintons, I’d recommend he leave Hillary in the Senate and appoint Bill to be Ambassador to the UN. As you say, he’s got real cred with the rest of the world. He’d get to stay in New York City and he’d have a forum equal to his persona. </p>
<p>Obama needs to figure out how to deal with Bill Clinton, because Obama will likely end up in the same place, ex-Prez who’s too young to quit the stage entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The internets say Cheney is 5′ 8″, and Biden is about 6′. Bush is about 5′11″. Obama is over 6′ 1″, and looks a lot taller than Bush. Michelle Obama is 5′ 11″. Our team towers over their team in every way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internets say Cheney is 5′ 8″, and Biden is about 6′. Bush is about 5′11″. Obama is over 6′ 1″, and looks a lot taller than Bush. Michelle Obama is 5′ 11″. Our team towers over their team in every way.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why not?  The rest of the world loves Bill.  Are you saying that Obama or the Obama team feels threatened by Bill?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Strategically what is a better spot for Hillary in regard to her effectiveness and running in eight years?  Better to have her in the Senate, Sec of State. Supreme Court?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;34 Bmaz according to theresa’s official biography “led a relatively privileged life” not sure who her biographer was but this made me choke!  They needed to say very privileged life relative to 99% of the people on the planet&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone think Wesley Clark in the running for Secretary of Defense.  I have a great deal of respect for Clark.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not?  The rest of the world loves Bill.  Are you saying that Obama or the Obama team feels threatened by Bill?</p>
<p>Strategically what is a better spot for Hillary in regard to her effectiveness and running in eight years?  Better to have her in the Senate, Sec of State. Supreme Court?</p>
<p>34 Bmaz according to theresa’s official biography “led a relatively privileged life” not sure who her biographer was but this made me choke!  They needed to say very privileged life relative to 99% of the people on the planet</p>
<p>Does anyone think Wesley Clark in the running for Secretary of Defense.  I have a great deal of respect for Clark.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can Former Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee be pulled into play for any spot on the Obama team?  What is his expertise?  Chaffee seemed so honorable during the John Bolton (well more like pissed off) and Condi Rice hearings.   He voted against the 2002 war resolution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Chaffee seems to be a straight forward, honest, above the belt kind of player.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Former Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee be pulled into play for any spot on the Obama team?  What is his expertise?  Chaffee seemed so honorable during the John Bolton (well more like pissed off) and Condi Rice hearings.   He voted against the 2002 war resolution.</p>
<p> Chaffee seems to be a straight forward, honest, above the belt kind of player.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Noticed that right away.  How tall or short is Cheney?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Damn that man deserves to be in prison.  Will we ever witness justice?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noticed that right away.  How tall or short is Cheney?  </p>
<p>Damn that man deserves to be in prison.  Will we ever witness justice?</p>
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		<title>By: JimWhite</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimWhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For those of you keeping score, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20081114/pl_cq_politics/politics2986045&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;indictment count on Renzi&lt;/a&gt; just jumped by 8 to 43.  That guy can really rack ‘em up!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you keeping score, the <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20081114/pl_cq_politics/politics2986045" rel="nofollow">indictment count on Renzi</a> just jumped by 8 to 43.  That guy can really rack ‘em up!</p>
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