Comments on: Surprise Surprise: “Laptop of Death” a Possible Forgery

By: Mindroth

Mindroth — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:47:50 +0000

neither can I, thats when the real truth will start to come out. Hey are you planning on joining the new Obama secret police, Maybe you can find some more books that Palin had banned. You know the ones that weren’t written. Pretty smart to ban a book before it is even written, don’cha think. Oh I forgot you don’t think

By: Leen

Leen — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:12:43 +0000

The two teams have both been singing “move forward, turn the page, nothing here” chorus for a while now. They seem to ignore the lack of confidence that Americans have in their ability hold anyone accountable for the long list of Bush administration crimes. Moving forward is impossible when the vehicle has four flat tires

By: bmaz

bmaz — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:07:47 +0000

Heh heh. Yeah, well, I was pretty sure you had the gig down to start with….

I guess we take what we can get; no reason for us to stand silent about it along the way though.

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:59:42 +0000

85 – got it, Dershowitztic.

By: bmaz

bmaz — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:08:28 +0000

Almost looks like a mis-comunication between you and WO; let me give the two bit bmaz translation. There will be some “undoing” around the fringes as Obama to the extent possible, a more sane policy and procedure set going forward, and little to nothing as fara as prosecution or substantial accountability for that done in the past by the Bushies.

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:14:27 +0000

82 - I think tha you can “undo” policies on stem cell research, reproductive rights and climate chagne. On torture, you don’t “undo” you prosecute.

81 - I tend to add the list of his Intel advisors, and his telecom and Executive Branch immunity actions, and his failure to ever speak out about things like Arar’s case, to the article. Since intel has been her beat and since so much of the Obama intel crew has tight ties with the torturers and none have ever, ever (did I mention NONE and EVER?) spoken about prosecution of Executive branch crimes, I don’t really discount the story so easily as wishful thinking, and I have thought for a long long time that any expectations that Obama will prosecute Executive crime is really where the wishful thinking can be found. I guess the difference is that I’ll be very happy to be proven wrong. I wasn’t over telecom immunity, but I’m still hoping.

WO - who do you see on his intel advisor’s crew that gives you confidence? I’d love to have some if you can share.

By: Leen

Leen — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:07:09 +0000

ot
Did anyone else think that Michelle Obama looked like she gave Bush the cold shoulder when they first met yesterday. From what I saw of that first encounter it looked like you could cut the air with a knife the tension seemed thick. Bush looked like he was ready to shake Michelle’s hand and she just ignored him. He looked a bit stunned.
Barack Obama arrives at the White House
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27640254/

am I off?..I really think Michelle looked like she purposely ignored him

By: Leen

Leen — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:00:42 +0000

What about this indicator

Obama puts ‘hundreds’ of Bush rulings under review
http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....06626.html

“Mr Obama has made clear for months, however, that he wants to scrap as many as 200 of the most controversial decisions of Mr Bush’s eight years in office. A team of 48 advisers is already drawing up a list of measures they intend to undo, relating to torture, federal funding for stem cell research, reproductive rights and climate change.”

By: WilliamOckham

WilliamOckham — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:59:55 +0000

That article is bs. Siobhan Gorman is a great reporter, but she’s just writing what people are saying. Most of the stuff in that article is wishful thinking:

The new president could take a similar approach to revising the rules for CIA interrogations, said one current government official familiar with the transition. Upon review, Mr. Obama may decide he wants to keep the road open in certain cases for the CIA to use techniques not approved by the military, but with much greater oversight.

Let me translate that:

Please don’t expose our lawbreaking.

Now, you may be right about what Obama ends up doing. I don’t think you are. I certainly hope and pray you’re wrong. This article less than useless. It’s an active attempt by certain factions to spread misinformation.

By: Leen

Leen — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:54:31 +0000

You could hear the “next stop Iran” chant immediately after the illegal invasion of Iraq. Ledeen, Cheney, Reuel Marc Gerecht, Woolsey, etc etc were all over the media immediately repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran. It was relentless.

Scott Ritter’s book “Target Iran” is a great book