Comments on: Speaking as the Owner of a Perfect Storm Cap http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111920 Leen Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:38:33 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111920 <p>Howard Dean visited Ohio often. I believe he was the main players in convincing our districts Congressman Strickland to run for Governor. Dean deserves a great deal of credit for the ground game that has been played.</p> Howard Dean visited Ohio often. I believe he was the main players in convincing our districts Congressman Strickland to run for Governor. Dean deserves a great deal of credit for the ground game that has been played.

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111919 Leen Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:37:16 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111919 <p>Ew I hope Howard Dean is right. But I have many questions about Obama, I watched too many Senate hearings where he sat on the fence. His words are great but no real actions to speak of to back it up. </p> <p>I think his first pick Rahm Emmanuel as Chief of Staff makes me worry. What is the message here? Rahm Emmanuel does not stir up feelings of fairness and justice in me.</p> Ew I hope Howard Dean is right. But I have many questions about Obama, I watched too many Senate hearings where he sat on the fence. His words are great but no real actions to speak of to back it up.

I think his first pick Rahm Emmanuel as Chief of Staff makes me worry. What is the message here? Rahm Emmanuel does not stir up feelings of fairness and justice in me.

]]> By: bobschacht http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111798 bobschacht Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:09:42 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111798 <p>EW-<br /> Thanks for giving Howard the chops he deserves. It was Dean who re-energized me back in 2003, and gave me a movement to join (DFA). I am still a Deaniac, and DFA organizer (now in Honolulu), even if we have merged efforts with like-minded Progressive Democrats of America. I have a picture of me’n Howard on <a href="http://www.meetup.com/dfa-370/" rel="nofollow">our Meet-up site</a> Howard Dean really set the table for Obama, and Obama should either re-appoint him, or create a special position for him. He deserves it. </p> <p>Bob in HI</p> EW-
Thanks for giving Howard the chops he deserves. It was Dean who re-energized me back in 2003, and gave me a movement to join (DFA). I am still a Deaniac, and DFA organizer (now in Honolulu), even if we have merged efforts with like-minded Progressive Democrats of America. I have a picture of me’n Howard on our Meet-up site Howard Dean really set the table for Obama, and Obama should either re-appoint him, or create a special position for him. He deserves it.

Bob in HI

]]> By: vicki http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111784 vicki Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:25:51 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111784 <p>The only campaign button I have worn throughout is the “50 State Strategy” button I got at Netroots Nation.</p> <p>Thanks Howard!</p> <p>::</p> The only campaign button I have worn throughout is the “50 State Strategy” button I got at Netroots Nation.

Thanks Howard!

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]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111778 Mary Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:16:35 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111778 <p>58 - Napolitano, not Granholm.</p> <p>I wouldn’t be very excited about Fitzgerald as AG (and I think LHP has indicated he’d rather have Mueller’s job anyway) but then again, I don’t expect to be excited over the AG pick. I also don’t expect the AG to be digging around for info on all the people (who might, for exampe, have included Fitzgerald’s friend Comey and the USA himself) who almost had to have been exposed to torture tactics and information (as, for example, prior to the filing to of the Arar affidavit or holding the Padilla press conf or the Chicago snatch of Padilla) and conspired to make sure it was covered up and to help deceive the courts and citizens about what was going on. All the lawyers who never corrected the record for the tribunals, all the lawyers and political spawn who went much much further in the participation in torture - there won’t be an AG appointed who will go after them. After all, we’ve just given Schumer, who was as pro-torture as any Republican, that much more power. </p> <p>It’s a nice historic moment, but Obama’s election isn’t going to advance anything on the criminal responsiblity for Executive crimes front. IMO, FWIW.</p> 58 – Napolitano, not Granholm.

I wouldn’t be very excited about Fitzgerald as AG (and I think LHP has indicated he’d rather have Mueller’s job anyway) but then again, I don’t expect to be excited over the AG pick. I also don’t expect the AG to be digging around for info on all the people (who might, for exampe, have included Fitzgerald’s friend Comey and the USA himself) who almost had to have been exposed to torture tactics and information (as, for example, prior to the filing to of the Arar affidavit or holding the Padilla press conf or the Chicago snatch of Padilla) and conspired to make sure it was covered up and to help deceive the courts and citizens about what was going on. All the lawyers who never corrected the record for the tribunals, all the lawyers and political spawn who went much much further in the participation in torture – there won’t be an AG appointed who will go after them. After all, we’ve just given Schumer, who was as pro-torture as any Republican, that much more power.

It’s a nice historic moment, but Obama’s election isn’t going to advance anything on the criminal responsiblity for Executive crimes front. IMO, FWIW.

]]> By: readerOfTeaLeaves http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111749 readerOfTeaLeaves Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:29:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111749 <p>‘usefulness exhausted’, my arse.</p> <p>If you hadn’t unpeeled McCain’s vanity and fundamentally unprincipled character, before the NYT article on McCain’s ‘changing narrative’ (or, as Marcy might type: Na.Ra.Tive), I’d have been feeling sorry for that train wreck. You liberated me from the veils of deception, and that’s no small thing.</p> <p>To everyone here — I just couldn’t resist stopping by to check in and savor this day.<br /> Still pinching myself.</p> ‘usefulness exhausted’, my arse.

If you hadn’t unpeeled McCain’s vanity and fundamentally unprincipled character, before the NYT article on McCain’s ‘changing narrative’ (or, as Marcy might type: Na.Ra.Tive), I’d have been feeling sorry for that train wreck. You liberated me from the veils of deception, and that’s no small thing.

To everyone here — I just couldn’t resist stopping by to check in and savor this day.
Still pinching myself.

]]> By: brantl http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111748 brantl Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:29:04 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111748 <p>I would rather have Patrick Fitzgerald than Granholm. Talk about good bi-partisanship.</p> I would rather have Patrick Fitzgerald than Granholm. Talk about good bi-partisanship.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111720 bmaz Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:05:58 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111720 <p>My usefulness is about exhausted now isn’t it? And now that Marcy is freed up of the election distraction, I am not even needed for Trash Talk! Sniff sniff, I’ll just be - waaaaah - over here in the corner.</p> My usefulness is about exhausted now isn’t it? And now that Marcy is freed up of the election distraction, I am not even needed for Trash Talk! Sniff sniff, I’ll just be – waaaaah – over here in the corner.

]]> By: BayStateLibrul http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111718 BayStateLibrul Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:47:05 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111718 <p>Nobody sets out to run a dumb campaign.<br /> Nobody sets out to make a bad marriage, but the divorce stats and McCain’s list of incredible bonehead plays, proves that good intentions aren’t always enough.<br /> Yet, McCain never had any fucking good intentions.<br /> Has Hemingway’s Robert Jordan awoken yet?<br /> The bells have taken their toll…<br /> Death to his bellicose fuckery.<br /> I’m so glad Obama put a stake through McCain’s rhetoric, so this useless garbage will never, never be repeated.</p> <p>“Fight to clean up the mess of corruption, infighting and selfishness in Washington,” he says. “Fight to get our economy out of the ditch and back in the lead. Fight for the ideals and character of a free people. Fight for our children’s future. Fight for justice and opportunity for all. Stand up to defend our country from its enemies. Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight.<br /> “America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We make history. Now, let’s go win this election and get our country moving again. Thank you and God bless you. God bless America. Thank you.”</p> Nobody sets out to run a dumb campaign.
Nobody sets out to make a bad marriage, but the divorce stats and McCain’s list of incredible bonehead plays, proves that good intentions aren’t always enough.
Yet, McCain never had any fucking good intentions.
Has Hemingway’s Robert Jordan awoken yet?
The bells have taken their toll…
Death to his bellicose fuckery.
I’m so glad Obama put a stake through McCain’s rhetoric, so this useless garbage will never, never be repeated.

“Fight to clean up the mess of corruption, infighting and selfishness in Washington,” he says. “Fight to get our economy out of the ditch and back in the lead. Fight for the ideals and character of a free people. Fight for our children’s future. Fight for justice and opportunity for all. Stand up to defend our country from its enemies. Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight.
“America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We make history. Now, let’s go win this election and get our country moving again. Thank you and God bless you. God bless America. Thank you.”

]]> By: masaccio http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111717 masaccio Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:34:27 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/11/04/speaking-as-the-owner-of-a-perfect-storm-cap/#comment-111717 <p>bmaz, I will do that, thanks. </p> <p>What are you going to do without McCain to kick around?</p> bmaz, I will do that, thanks.

What are you going to do without McCain to kick around?

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