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	<title>Comments on: MI Republicans Admit to Illegal Foreclosure Scheme, &#8220;Surrender&#8221; to Democrats</title>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;post updated with some caveats abotu my headline.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post updated with some caveats abotu my headline.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The settlement itself isn’t public, so no, I can’t. The statement both sides made is more cautious than this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So you’re right, we can’t see what the Republicans themselves admitted to. Perhaps I’ve gotten snookered by the Dem statement–though I rather suspect that the statement wouldn’t have been so aggressive without some basis in the statement. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s the GOP &lt;a href=&quot;http://migop.blogs.com/blog/2008/10/articles-of--20.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;version&lt;/a&gt; of what happened:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;FORECLOSURE LAWSUIT DROPPED…Democratic National Committee and Obama for America today opted to drop a frivolous lawsuit against the Michigan Republican Party rather than risk having to pay defendants legal fees.  The Democrats’ actions confirm that no proof ever existed that Republicans planned to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters.  Joint statement released below.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the things that’s going on, too, is the standard of proof: the Dem argument is that, by saying they WERE going to use foreclosure lists, it becamse a scheme unto itself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The settlement itself isn’t public, so no, I can’t. The statement both sides made is more cautious than this.</p>
<p>So you’re right, we can’t see what the Republicans themselves admitted to. Perhaps I’ve gotten snookered by the Dem statement–though I rather suspect that the statement wouldn’t have been so aggressive without some basis in the statement. </p>
<p>Here’s the GOP <a href="http://migop.blogs.com/blog/2008/10/articles-of--20.html" rel="nofollow">version</a> of what happened:</p>
<blockquote><p>FORECLOSURE LAWSUIT DROPPED…Democratic National Committee and Obama for America today opted to drop a frivolous lawsuit against the Michigan Republican Party rather than risk having to pay defendants legal fees.  The Democrats’ actions confirm that no proof ever existed that Republicans planned to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters.  Joint statement released below.</p>
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<p>One of the things that’s going on, too, is the standard of proof: the Dem argument is that, by saying they WERE going to use foreclosure lists, it becamse a scheme unto itself.</p>
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		<title>By: ClusterTim</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClusterTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Imagine that. Corruption is Bliss isnt it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jiff&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.privacy-center.be.tc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.privacy-center.be.tc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine that. Corruption is Bliss isnt it?</p>
<p>Jiff<br /><a href="http://www.privacy-center.be.tc" rel="nofollow">http://www.privacy-center.be.tc</a></p>
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		<title>By: qrs136</title>
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		<dc:creator>qrs136</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;emptywheel, I’ve looked and looked, but I cannot find any reference online to your&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The settlement acknowledges the existence of an illegal scheme by the Republicans to use mortgage foreclosure lists to deny foreclosure victims their right to vote. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  Can you provide a citation?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>emptywheel, I’ve looked and looked, but I cannot find any reference online to your</p>
<blockquote><p>The settlement acknowledges the existence of an illegal scheme by the Republicans to use mortgage foreclosure lists to deny foreclosure victims their right to vote. </p></blockquote>
<p>  Can you provide a citation?</p>
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		<title>By: radicalsquare</title>
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		<dc:creator>radicalsquare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding capital gains, it’s my understanding that if property is sold for less than or for what is owed on it, there is no capital gained, therefore no income to tax.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding capital gains, it’s my understanding that if property is sold for less than or for what is owed on it, there is no capital gained, therefore no income to tax.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cleanup for Freepatriot on aisles 48 and 49.  It’s a gooey little critter too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleanup for Freepatriot on aisles 48 and 49.  It’s a gooey little critter too.</p>
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		<title>By: KyleSeymour</title>
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		<dc:creator>KyleSeymour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;anyone can be vp! check it out&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone can be vp! check it out</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00</a></p>
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		<title>By: Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marcy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t quite see how you can state as fact that the MRP “admitted” to having a plan, or anything else. The only evidence for that is the MDP saying that they did. And the MRP has flatly denied it. I wouldn’t be the least surprised if they did, but I don’t see anything like an admission of guilt of having a foreclosure plan.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcy</p>
<p>I don’t quite see how you can state as fact that the MRP “admitted” to having a plan, or anything else. The only evidence for that is the MDP saying that they did. And the MRP has flatly denied it. I wouldn’t be the least surprised if they did, but I don’t see anything like an admission of guilt of having a foreclosure plan.</p>
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		<title>By: jlmealer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlmealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is really odd is that Ayer’s buddy and SDS counterpart, WADE RATHKE is the maggot that petitioned the supreme court to have the GOP lawsuit for early dead people voting from ACORN and the DNC squashed!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you undertsand the implications??&lt;br /&gt;
Ayer’s buddy…. Rathke… who was also a terrorist working with SDS and the Weather Underground.. and part of the Woods Fund… Helping ACORN do early voting for dead people, and restaurants, etc… All for Obama.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is it you liberals just don’t get???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just hope the people who faced foreclosure due to the democrat’s (intentional) errors with Fannie and Freddie (By the way… who received the 1st and 2nd largest politcal “donations” from these two special interest groups??)…. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyhow.. I just hope the people who had to sell their homes, land and/or cars just to beat foreclosure realize that Obama’s CAPITAL GAINS TAX is going to hit them hard…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Talk about adding insult to injury!!! You lose your home or car, sell it under the value to avoid foreclosure and now Obama wants you to PAY A HIGHER capital gains tax on it!!! Talk about total BS!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NObama!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is really odd is that Ayer’s buddy and SDS counterpart, WADE RATHKE is the maggot that petitioned the supreme court to have the GOP lawsuit for early dead people voting from ACORN and the DNC squashed!</p>
<p>Do you undertsand the implications??<br />
Ayer’s buddy…. Rathke… who was also a terrorist working with SDS and the Weather Underground.. and part of the Woods Fund… Helping ACORN do early voting for dead people, and restaurants, etc… All for Obama.</p>
<p>What is it you liberals just don’t get???</p>
<p>I just hope the people who faced foreclosure due to the democrat’s (intentional) errors with Fannie and Freddie (By the way… who received the 1st and 2nd largest politcal “donations” from these two special interest groups??)…. </p>
<p>Anyhow.. I just hope the people who had to sell their homes, land and/or cars just to beat foreclosure realize that Obama’s CAPITAL GAINS TAX is going to hit them hard…</p>
<p>Talk about adding insult to injury!!! You lose your home or car, sell it under the value to avoid foreclosure and now Obama wants you to PAY A HIGHER capital gains tax on it!!! Talk about total BS!!!</p>
<p>NObama!</p>
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		<title>By: jlmealer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlmealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just hope the people who faced foreclosure due to the democrat’s (intentional) errors with Fannie and Freddie (By the way… who received the 1st and 2nd largest politcal “donations” from these two special interest groups??)…. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyhow.. I just hope the people who had to sell their homes, land and/or cars just to beat foreclosure realize that Obama’s CAPITAL GAINS TAX is going to hit them hard…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Talk about adding insult to injury!!! You lose your home or car, sell it under the value to avoid foreclosure and now Obama wants you to PAY A HIGHER capital gains tax on it!!! Talk about total BS!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NObama!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope the people who faced foreclosure due to the democrat’s (intentional) errors with Fannie and Freddie (By the way… who received the 1st and 2nd largest politcal “donations” from these two special interest groups??)…. </p>
<p>Anyhow.. I just hope the people who had to sell their homes, land and/or cars just to beat foreclosure realize that Obama’s CAPITAL GAINS TAX is going to hit them hard…</p>
<p>Talk about adding insult to injury!!! You lose your home or car, sell it under the value to avoid foreclosure and now Obama wants you to PAY A HIGHER capital gains tax on it!!! Talk about total BS!!!</p>
<p>NObama!</p>
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