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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/03/michi-gone-but-not-forgotten/#comment-104040</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You got anybody that can go on record about those threats by Land?  email me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got anybody that can go on record about those threats by Land?  email me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/03/michi-gone-but-not-forgotten/#comment-104039</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Need to keep in mind that Knollenberg, Walber, McCotter et al are merely props.  Just meat puppets — and in McCotter’s case, meant only to take the place of an actually legislator.  Doing nothing is purposeful for their puppet masters&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s getting walked back, though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need to keep in mind that Knollenberg, Walber, McCotter et al are merely props.  Just meat puppets — and in McCotter’s case, meant only to take the place of an actually legislator.  Doing nothing is purposeful for their puppet masters</p>
<p>It’s getting walked back, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thats how much I know about music.  Hope that information helped some folks head  to Columbus on Sunday&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats how much I know about music.  Hope that information helped some folks head  to Columbus on Sunday</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/03/michi-gone-but-not-forgotten/#comment-103970</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I echo everyone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oxdown it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for a great historical insight.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo everyone.</p>
<p>Oxdown it.</p>
<p>Thank you for a great historical insight.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/03/michi-gone-but-not-forgotten/#comment-103969</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As of 2006, they’re all scantrons. The only touchscreens are the single disabled-accessible machines in each precinct.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Terry Lynn is not all good. We tried to do a dry run of full recounts in 2006 (we did do a four-precinct recount during the primary, which for much of hte county is the election, but found that human fatigue made the HUMAN recount inaccurate). And Land and a staffer threatened us if we did so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of 2006, they’re all scantrons. The only touchscreens are the single disabled-accessible machines in each precinct.</p>
<p>Terry Lynn is not all good. We tried to do a dry run of full recounts in 2006 (we did do a four-precinct recount during the primary, which for much of hte county is the election, but found that human fatigue made the HUMAN recount inaccurate). And Land and a staffer threatened us if we did so.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And I third that notion.&lt;br /&gt;
This would be a terrific post at Oxdown.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sojourner @ 10, a shout out for your support of Noriega — it would be soooo great if Coryn is outta DC, and having one more Iraq vet in Congress might actually be good for the military.  (The same military that the Iran-Contra Grads out of OVP have been so successful in sidelining, I might add.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wm O @ 16 — I’ve only recently begun to glimpse with any real hope the prospect of a blow-out in November.  I still recall how completely boggled my mind was after the caucus in my precinct back in Feb — the turnout was stupifying, the demographics were diverse, and in my precinct there happened to be TWO Iraq vets (my state has the 3rd highest National Guard call-up for Iraq, but still…).  I had the sense that those two vets were going to crawl over five miles of ground glass if that’s what it took for them to vote against the GOP/War Party this November.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FWIW, this sure supports Howard Dean’s contention that the Dems needed a 50 state strategy.  It’s clearly paying off.  As is the pick of the humorous, knowledgeable Biden.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I third that notion.<br />
This would be a terrific post at Oxdown.</p>
<p>sojourner @ 10, a shout out for your support of Noriega — it would be soooo great if Coryn is outta DC, and having one more Iraq vet in Congress might actually be good for the military.  (The same military that the Iran-Contra Grads out of OVP have been so successful in sidelining, I might add.)</p>
<p>Wm O @ 16 — I’ve only recently begun to glimpse with any real hope the prospect of a blow-out in November.  I still recall how completely boggled my mind was after the caucus in my precinct back in Feb — the turnout was stupifying, the demographics were diverse, and in my precinct there happened to be TWO Iraq vets (my state has the 3rd highest National Guard call-up for Iraq, but still…).  I had the sense that those two vets were going to crawl over five miles of ground glass if that’s what it took for them to vote against the GOP/War Party this November.  </p>
<p>FWIW, this sure supports Howard Dean’s contention that the Dems needed a 50 state strategy.  It’s clearly paying off.  As is the pick of the humorous, knowledgeable Biden.</p>
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		<title>By: gkerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>gkerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Two Michigan questions:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Are the voting machines paperless electronic (e.g. Diebold)?&lt;br /&gt;
2) Is a Repub in charge of them?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the past few years, I think the answer to #1 was: it depends on the county. In my district, we’ve had paper w/scanners for several cycles, but some districts had touch-screen only.  I thought I read that Michigan had standarized to paper/scanners for this cycle, but I’m not certain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for #2, our Gov. is a Dem, but the Secretary of State is a pub. Supposedly she’s a “good” repub,  but I don’t buy it. And in a dispute between her and our Gov, we’d be SOL, since the Supreme Court was stacked by Engler with Devos-types, and our Atty General is a freeper.&lt;strike&gt;&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;EW, correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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Two Michigan questions:</p>
<p>1) Are the voting machines paperless electronic (e.g. Diebold)?<br />
2) Is a Repub in charge of them?
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<p>In the past few years, I think the answer to #1 was: it depends on the county. In my district, we’ve had paper w/scanners for several cycles, but some districts had touch-screen only.  I thought I read that Michigan had standarized to paper/scanners for this cycle, but I’m not certain.</p>
<p>As for #2, our Gov. is a Dem, but the Secretary of State is a pub. Supposedly she’s a “good” repub,  but I don’t buy it. And in a dispute between her and our Gov, we’d be SOL, since the Supreme Court was stacked by Engler with Devos-types, and our Atty General is a freeper.<strike></strike></p>
<p>EW, correct me if I’m wrong on any of this.</p>
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		<title>By: momaloney39</title>
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		<dc:creator>momaloney39</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lab Dancer…please do what Mad Dog suggests.  It will be read and&lt;br /&gt;
maybe make the other’s will respond as well.  Many other’s involved&lt;br /&gt;
may help to put a dent into McCain’s negative ads….Make sure you&lt;br /&gt;
put the url in your piece at the bottom.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good Luck…will get others to digg it too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lab Dancer…please do what Mad Dog suggests.  It will be read and<br />
maybe make the other’s will respond as well.  Many other’s involved<br />
may help to put a dent into McCain’s negative ads….Make sure you<br />
put the url in your piece at the bottom.</p>
<p>Good Luck…will get others to digg it too.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/03/michi-gone-but-not-forgotten/#comment-103945</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Voting machines are all scantrons–Diebold is one of the two manufacturers. But scantrons have a paper ballot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The SOS and AG are both Republicans. The Gov, of course, is a Dem.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting machines are all scantrons–Diebold is one of the two manufacturers. But scantrons have a paper ballot.</p>
<p>The SOS and AG are both Republicans. The Gov, of course, is a Dem.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And I, Lab Dancer, second MadDog’s suggestion regarding Oxdown Gaztte.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your comment deserves to be more broadly appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DW&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I, Lab Dancer, second MadDog’s suggestion regarding Oxdown Gaztte.</p>
<p>Your comment deserves to be more broadly appreciated.</p>
<p>DW</p>
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