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	<title>Comments on: VP Debate: Shredding the Constitution v. Duck [sic] Hunting</title>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/02/vp-debate-shredding-the-constitution-v-duck-sic-hunting/comment-page-3/#comment-103848</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lhp put up a funny link about that on FDL.  check it out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lhp put up a funny link about that on FDL.  check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, sarah, cheney supports the troops so much.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“so?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sarah, cheney supports the troops so much.</p>
<p>“so?”</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Juan Cole, my hero!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I knew he would not mince words…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan Cole, my hero!</p>
<p>I knew he would not mince words…</p>
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		<title>By: kspena</title>
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		<dc:creator>kspena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Juan Cole, why don’t you tell us what you really think:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“She mugged for the camera, winked like a bar fly, and just went on talking and talking and talking, oblivious to whatever anyone else said. Not only did she ignore most of Gwen Ifill’s questions,she paid no attention to what Joe Biden said. When he choked up over the loss of his family, she did not have the decency to express any kind of condolences. It is almost as though she is autistic and unable to connect with human beings.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juancole.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.juancole.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan Cole, why don’t you tell us what you really think:</p>
<p>“She mugged for the camera, winked like a bar fly, and just went on talking and talking and talking, oblivious to whatever anyone else said. Not only did she ignore most of Gwen Ifill’s questions,she paid no attention to what Joe Biden said. When he choked up over the loss of his family, she did not have the decency to express any kind of condolences. It is almost as though she is autistic and unable to connect with human beings.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juancole.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.juancole.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kspena</title>
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		<dc:creator>kspena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was encouraging that Sarah did learn something in school, but was confusing the US Civil War with war in Afganistan.  McClellan, you know….doncha?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was encouraging that Sarah did learn something in school, but was confusing the US Civil War with war in Afganistan.  McClellan, you know….doncha?</p>
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		<title>By: radiofreewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>radiofreewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, they were on the same Field all right, but the difference was Obvious.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Joe ran the ball into the end-zone on almost every play.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sarah exceeded expectations twirling her talking-points baton.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, it’s time to Take Out the Trash:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;67 Senate Seats&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;300 House Seats&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Take Back America!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, they were on the same Field all right, but the difference was Obvious.</p>
<p>Joe ran the ball into the end-zone on almost every play.</p>
<p>Sarah exceeded expectations twirling her talking-points baton.</p>
<p>Now, it’s time to Take Out the Trash:</p>
<p>67 Senate Seats</p>
<p>300 House Seats</p>
<p>Take Back America!</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sarah Palin BUSTED!! Forced to apologize to British ambassador for lying about participating in “talks” with him that never actually took place!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Juan Cole&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sarah Palin BUSTED!! Forced to apologize to British ambassador for lying about participating in “talks” with him that never actually took place!</p>
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<p>Juan Cole</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cannot wait for Juan Cole’s analysis…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cannot wait for Juan Cole’s analysis…</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
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		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I listened to some and read the whole thing. The idea that Palin was in the game is laughable. The only thing I can see is that she has memorized a few new lines, and delivers them with gusto. She was too informal, and she grinned during most of the parts I watched. She had several airhead moments, including the discussion of her role in a McCain administration and her duties as Vice President. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is a quote from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.transcript/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN transcript&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; Now, Barack Obama had said that all we’re doing in Afghanistan is air-raiding villages and killing civilians. And such a reckless, reckless comment and untrue comment, again, hurts our cause.&lt;br /&gt;
That’s not what we’re doing there. We’re fighting terrorists, and we’re securing democracy, and we’re building schools for children there so that there is opportunity in that country, also. There will be a big difference there, and we will win in — in Afghanistan, also.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The first sentence is foolish overstatement. Obama doesn’t say that. He points out that we are using air power which leads to killing both fighters and civilians, and the indiscriminate killing is enraging the Afghanistani people. Speaking the truth is not hurting our cause. It is the first step towards dealing with the problem. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We aren’t fighting terrorists. We are fighting the Taliban, a guerilla group that ruled the country, before we deposed them. And we aren’t even fighting terrorists because they are in Pakistan, which is off limits, especially to McCain. As to the bizarre notion that we are there to do reconstruction, tell that to the Canadians, whose soldiers are dying just like ours and many others. Biden quoted the commanding general there very effectively, leaving her grasping for an answer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Held her own? Maybe in wingnuttia.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to some and read the whole thing. The idea that Palin was in the game is laughable. The only thing I can see is that she has memorized a few new lines, and delivers them with gusto. She was too informal, and she grinned during most of the parts I watched. She had several airhead moments, including the discussion of her role in a McCain administration and her duties as Vice President. </p>
<p>Here is a quote from the <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.transcript/" rel="nofollow">CNN transcript</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p> Now, Barack Obama had said that all we’re doing in Afghanistan is air-raiding villages and killing civilians. And such a reckless, reckless comment and untrue comment, again, hurts our cause.<br />
That’s not what we’re doing there. We’re fighting terrorists, and we’re securing democracy, and we’re building schools for children there so that there is opportunity in that country, also. There will be a big difference there, and we will win in — in Afghanistan, also.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first sentence is foolish overstatement. Obama doesn’t say that. He points out that we are using air power which leads to killing both fighters and civilians, and the indiscriminate killing is enraging the Afghanistani people. Speaking the truth is not hurting our cause. It is the first step towards dealing with the problem. </p>
<p>We aren’t fighting terrorists. We are fighting the Taliban, a guerilla group that ruled the country, before we deposed them. And we aren’t even fighting terrorists because they are in Pakistan, which is off limits, especially to McCain. As to the bizarre notion that we are there to do reconstruction, tell that to the Canadians, whose soldiers are dying just like ours and many others. Biden quoted the commanding general there very effectively, leaving her grasping for an answer.</p>
<p>Held her own? Maybe in wingnuttia.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My son printed off an O’Biden sticker…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“O’Biden”&lt;br /&gt;
      via Sarah Palin 2008 VP debate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Joe’s got the “that’s not a maverick facts down.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son printed off an O’Biden sticker…</p>
<p>“O’Biden”<br />
      via Sarah Palin 2008 VP debate</p>
<p>Joe’s got the “that’s not a maverick facts down.”</p>
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