Comments on: Operation “The Surge Is a Success–Bury the Afghanistan NIE”

By: kspena

kspena — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:42:36 +0000

DeadLast, if you keep talking like that, you’re going to have to get a new handle. bush is deadlast!!!!

By: Dismayed

Dismayed — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:09:21 +0000

So we’ve helped lower violance in a nation that we occupied, that never had weapons of mass distruction, and only after most ethnic clensing has already happened, meanwhile:

We’ve ignored Afganistan and Pakistan, allowing the problems of one to completely destabilize the other which is a NUCLEAR POWER.

Non WMD “stable”, Nuclear Power, falling into hands of our ignored and more proximate enemy - priceless.

By: Neil

Neil — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:17:08 +0000

All ploy. There will be debates.

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:15:33 +0000

Can I go slightly OT? I finally saw Beyond Treason a few days ago. It is a powerful documentary about how the U.S. for the past 40? years has been hugely mistreating its own armed services personnel, and has covered up its own involvement in chemical and biological warfare (we do what we accused Saddam of doing, but I guess its OK because he did it to HIS OWN people, while we merely are doing it to our own troops and to, you know, like foreign people.) The documentary devotes a lot of attention to the use of “depleted Uranium,” and to secret projects such as MKUltra.

You can get a copy here, but I won’t get one red cent (or anything else) if you do.

Its very powerful, and will probably make you mad. Again.

Bob in HI

By: freepatriot

freepatriot — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:03:15 +0000

remember the Lamont campaign, when the guy made the lieber-bush statues and drove around outside joezoe tortureman’s campaign events

can we find a chicken suit in the fdl closet

mayday mcsame needs some companionship on the now suspended campaign trail

can we get his canceled schedule and have a chicken appear in his place ???

By: freepatriot

freepatriot — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:37:49 +0000

now mcchicken mcsame wants to cancel the debate

MAYDAY, MAYDAY

goin down

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

splock

if you ever wondered what wile e coyote would look like as a politician …

By: R.H. Green

R.H. Green — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:37:08 +0000

“…our Pakistani allies are now shooting at us.”

Nothing personal to the author but I have to take exception to some of the loose languge I’m seeing here. (Note also in #3 the term “our military operations”.) The’re not shooting at me, nor at “us”; they’re shooting at an invading/intruding military force, and I don’t blame them. The way I look at is that there was no need to attack the Taliban in the first place. Sure, they are barbarians, who mistreat people, and they blew up those statues, but they didn’t attack the USA. The military adventure in the middle east took time, money, and a great deal of logistical preparation to put into effect. Without Afganistan to serve as the headfake objective, it might have been discernable that the real objective was Iraq, and discerned in time to mobilize against it. What is unfolding in Afganistan/Pakistan is the logical consequences of the Iraq war objective, and it probably will come to roost against “us”, but it isn’t us thats being shot at there now, just the American forces of Commander codpiece.

By: LabDancer

LabDancer — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:28:56 +0000

Staying with that theme and back on topic: wouldn’t you think, what with the first debate Friday being on foreign policy and all, the Dems could have at least made some low risk move to get the attention of the voters back onto Middle East Clusterfiasco #1 and Middle East Clusterfiasco #2 in advance? I mean, by this point, he must have lied right to the face of every single House rep at least once by now, and probably soul-destroying multiple number of times to every member of the Senate. After 7 and half years, with 230 plus fact witnesses in the House, 49 fact witnesses in the Senate and at least a few Republicans willing to sell their children if it would help keep them in office, even bearing in mind the irrational fear of taking on the president and the quite understandable fear of taking on the vice president, and considering his role as the Decider’s mindreader and that his fingerprints are all over every conceivable crime scene, couldn’t they have at least initiated the impeachment of Hadley?

By: DeadLast

DeadLast — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:13:05 +0000

Bush is the ultimate failure. He has failed in absolutely everything he has ever undertaken was a failure and had to be bailed out. Except maybe the Governor of Texas. Everything else: College, National Guard, Arbusto, Harkin, even the Texas Rangers (it would have failed if it were not for eminent domain providing an healthy subsidy), and now his biggest failure: The United States of America (maybe Jesus will forgive him).

Tonight we get to see pure Shakespeare on TV. The bumbling idiot making what I hope is his last public appearance, while the audience alternates between laughing and crying. And Syria moves on Lebanon, China takes over Taiwan, and Blackwater moves operations to Paraguay and Dubai. Bush will shake his fist, pound the table, and lead a rag-tag party of whiners.

Where are the would-be patriots? They are in shackles of mortgage and 401K indenture. And all we have to show for it is millions of flat-screen digital TVs that are totally useless if our satellite communication systems fail because no one paid the bill. At least we get to watch Bush’s Waterloo address life size in high living color definition.

By: Minnesotachuck

Minnesotachuck — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:05:06 +0000

OT Re the previous, “We’re asking the wrong guys” thread, here are some depressing facts from Ken Silverstein at Harpers:

What you might not know is that there have been 258 parties this year alone for members of the House Financial Services Committee-the very folks who are making crucial decisions about this legislation-a number of them hosted by lobbyists for the finance, insurance, and real estate industries.