KO is close to the cliff from time to time, and needs to watch it. But I don’t think it’s KO as an individual as much as the fact that so many people were so grateful that a person within the MSM would call ‘bullshit’, and he’s certainly articulate. His earlier commentaries were brilliant, and they’re still good. But he might want to pull back a bit on his BillO rants.

Matthews, unlike so many on the networks, has actually worked in government; he’s seen people cut deals and he knows that it doesn’t have to be a toxic, bad, dishonorable thing. Under Bu$hCheney it’s become reprehensible, but it doesn’t have to be done so stupidly.

Agree that being ejected by MSNBC is probably a Gold Star for Matthews and Olbermann. Matthews should stop interupting people, or set much more stringent ground rules for his guests IMHO.

But to take this to a sweeter place, Joe Klein has an interesting comment up today stating that he’s not going to play into the McCain campaign’s urgent need to trivialize and distract. Here’s hoping!

FWIW, Bill Moyers is still one of my heroes. I’ve probably watched the interviews with Andrew Bacevitch about 8 times, and every time I hear more. It’s amazing what quiet conversation can reveal. If you’ve not seen those, Leen, try and find time. Humble, quiet, and profound.

I was surprised that MSNBC lumped Matthews and Olberman together. While Olberman and Maddow’s opinions often reflect my views. I did think that Olberman had gone off a cliff. Matthews often pisses me off which is what a good news person should do. Challenge as many peoples thinking as they can.

Well Olberman and Matthews should feel honored to join the ejected by MSNBC. Phil Donahue who was one of the only people in the MSM challenging the Bush administrations WMD claims. We know what happened to him.

I just left a site where this group factchecked the palin library scandal and they said it was not true !

Apparently vivecka novac is on the staff.

I don’t ordinarily pay attention to what Hollywood celebs have to say about politics, but TBogg has a brilliant post that’s relevant to the topic on this thread.

TBogg’s post “Hollyweirdness” — which includes a clip of Matt Damon’s comments to AP — is well worth your time: http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2…..ollyweird/

As TBogg points out, how did we arrive at a place where a Hollywood actor is more honest, forthright, and insightful than the US press?

Doesn’t the press realize what’s at stake — not simply for America, but for its own future? Why has the press been less articulate than Matt Damon? What explains the paradox by which the news has been overtaken by ‘entertainment values’, yet an actor in the very heart of the ‘entertainment industry’ can be so articulate and cogent?

Perplexing.

Imagine if you took your car to a mechanic, and he expected to receive payment for admiring your interior and giving you an ‘analysis’ of whether your color scheme was popular or not? Would it fix your engine?
Nope.
Would you continue to pay for his ’services’?
Nope.

People value information.
They’ll pay for information, but not for the drivel of he-said/she-said.

Didn’t Rove once pretend that his office had been bugged — and blame it on a political opponent? In fact, he’d bugged his own office. And it worked, because the press reported the version that Rove gave them.

If the media continues to be punk’d by the Rove wing of the GOP, they’ll cease to exist.

CNN was playing on the teevee – all lipstick, all the time.

Nobody, not even the elderly white folks (from Louisiana), was falling for the Phony Outrage by Team McCain. These people were tired of Empty Rhetoric. They were all thirsty for Real Change.

The most common comment I heard was: “We can’t have four more years like the last eight.”

The most telling comment I heard was: “She lies, with conviction, about that Bridge like Bush lied about the WMDs.”

For my part, I think the McCain Camp needed to Dominate the News Cycle today – even if it meant ginning-up faux outrage – in order to Distract from the devastating Palin bombshells coming from the Enquirer.

McCain may very well have impetuously buried himself in his own Loudly Claimed Honor.

“She was fully vetted, and we’re honored to have her with us.”

He was at the bottom of his class for a reason.

He’s unfit to be President of the United States.

Palin’s vocal delivery sounds clenched and disturbed to me.

- Tom

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