Happens.

Then you find dead former analysts in the woods in Britain and so on and so forth.

Cynic

Without debating all the merits of the clinton administration it’s safe to say, I think that he was a threat to the myths that the republicans operated on. It was a very hostile environment that Clinton served under. The whitewater investigation was really an amazing feat on the part of the republicans given that 5 years and 56 mil later they had nothing on him but for lying about his marital affairs. That investigation managed to put a cloud over his administration and tied one arm behind his back. I think that it psychological stirred many of Bill’s childhood issues (being abused, an abusive, battering father) and he acted the way many victims do. He acted childish and defensive, hostile. Like many of my clients who have childhood trauma. He made mistakes and he blew himself up, grandiosity. The american people could feel this, they knew he was seriously flawed. (and yet the flaw felt so familiar).

I have wondered if this cabal of cheneyites could have been stirring the pot during the Clinton years in an effort to convince the people that a strong military was needed. That the war machine was a necessity. The fact that the Clinton administration was so tied up trying to operate in such a hostile environment to this day amazes me. No republican administration faces or has faced this. To me it says something about the big picture.

If we consider that Cheney knew all he needed to know about the inner workings of Saddam, Bin laden, The Shaw, Iran. He would have amassed a considerable amount of information over the course of all those years as a major player in each of those previous administrations. It didn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that the middle east with it’s oil was a hotbed of financial opportunity.

What if Bin laden was bolstered, encouraged, played to create a major military problem that Clinton would be called to solve? What if the hope was to take control of this problem in some way so that it would appear that the replicans had control over the violence and the financial market.

Maybe they the bush administration was inept and stupid, but I think this does a disservice to the truth. If we consider Iran contra, who those players were at the time, that they still operate in this gov’t today, that these players have financial motive to continue terrorism, that Bush was unconcerned and did almost nothing in response to Clinton’s very loud concerns about Bin laden, (cheney had to know that Bin laden was a threat, if it were true because of his years of experience), that 9/ll occurred, that the investigation into 9/ll turned out a lot like Iran contra, (no one held accountable), that Bin Laden was blamed and never found, that Saddam was blamed but not responsible as proven by numerous reports, that the price of oil has increased and that oil companies are now operating with the biggest profits ever. Last but not least the fact that the republicans always use the language of power and control to win elections. (they use coercion and threats, name calling, (minimize, deny, and blame), treating people as objects-katrina, king of the castle (it’s my country I can do what i want), using finances. They are controlling us, the market and the story. We are fighting something bigger than just republicans and the American people need to understand this.

Maybe that’s a duh? But it’s seems to me that the American people need to see the big story. The river runs through it, and has for many, many years. I just don’t think we pull the big story together often enough. I realize the facts aren’t there for proving all of it, but there is enough circumstantial evidence. Look at Carter…Iran hostage crises. He was one term…that worked well didn’t it? The more I think about how Carter handled that crises the more I understand the viciousness toward him.

WE have to see what we are fighting agaisnt. WE cannot change what we don’t accept.

OT, but related- a q&a w/ fired AZ USA Paul Charlton is in the Sept/Oct Mother Jones (never thought I’d read Repub conservative Charlton giving answers in MoJo, but times do change, don’t they):

INTERVIEW: Paul Charlton, fired US attorney, on what the Department of Justice suffered under Attorney General Gonzales.

I believe we already know that election day is 14 October.

I don’t think Leahy had anything to do with it, either, Congressional oversight (or the lack thereof) being what it is.

Call me a cynic, but HL Mencken was right: Nobody ever went broke underestimating the American public’s intelligence.

Planning for Anthrax attacks had to have commenced well prior to 9/11.

Anthrax used originated within the United States.

Planning and execution originated inside the governmental structure.

What all of the politicians have told us repeatedly:

There have been no further terror attacks on US soil since 9/11.

What the FBI Wanted Poster says Bin Laden is wanted for:

MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH

No mention of an attack in New York City. He’s not wanted for 9/11.

“The FBI does not yet have ‘hard evidence’ linking him to the 9/11 attacks and so as of 2006 he has only been indicted on the embassy murders; he is officially still only a suspect in ‘other terrorist attacks throughout the world’.”

http://www.physics911.net/kevinbarrett.htm

http://www.911blimp.net/vid_fakeOsamaVideo.shtml

There is no evidence whatsoever that Bin Laden is alive, none. Ms Bhutto stated in an interview with the BBC’s David Frost that Bin Laden had been killed, and look what happened to her. There is abundant circumstantial evidence that the anthrax attacks and 9/11 were in fact two pieces of one event…yet few feel comfortable to simply admit the obvious and write about it, and allow comment about it as though it were fact.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/S…..4Df04.html

Testimony on Aligning the Costs and Benefits of the Housing Government-Sponsored Enterprises

More at this CBO page and in the links at the end of each article; also one more link in a post below.