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	<title>Comments on: Karma: McCain&#8217;s Veep Announcement Timing Backfires</title>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/karma-mccains-veep-announcement-timing-backfires/#comment-97745</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’re giving them too much credit.  Just read EW’s timeline again; they had NO idea until sometime on Thursday last week that she was going to be the one (and my personal suspicion is that the final decision came down to what was happening at Invesco Field that day).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Within a mere handful of hours they were already getting swamped with the ugly stuff they didn’t figure we’d get to — they underestimated the power of the internet, didn’t know that their attempt to change the subject would not only take attention away from Obama, but focus it laser-like on Palin’s flaws.  They were forced into defensive mode immediately.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they were actually on the offense, you could not get away from Palin on every single outlet.  Everything about Palin as veep suggests she was a last-ditch effort, and one that may yet drive them into that ditch.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re giving them too much credit.  Just read EW’s timeline again; they had NO idea until sometime on Thursday last week that she was going to be the one (and my personal suspicion is that the final decision came down to what was happening at Invesco Field that day).  </p>
<p>Within a mere handful of hours they were already getting swamped with the ugly stuff they didn’t figure we’d get to — they underestimated the power of the internet, didn’t know that their attempt to change the subject would not only take attention away from Obama, but focus it laser-like on Palin’s flaws.  They were forced into defensive mode immediately.</p>
<p>If they were actually on the offense, you could not get away from Palin on every single outlet.  Everything about Palin as veep suggests she was a last-ditch effort, and one that may yet drive them into that ditch.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/karma-mccains-veep-announcement-timing-backfires/#comment-97743</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bmaz, FWIW, I too have the sense that she is quite possibly a whole box of Pandora all on her own.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And they’ve played her/us beautifully.  Where have you seen her interviewed?  On MTP?  On any credible show?  They’ll work to get her ready for Oprah, and they’ll keep her off the Daily Show as long as they can.  Her first interview was to PEOPLE magazine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am amazed at how much, in the space of a single week, I have come to have a whole new level of contempt for the superficial, trivializing machinations of the GOP. And what this says about McCain is abysmal.   She’s got a lifetime full of grudges and it sure looks as if she derives satisfaction from upending existing structures - -unless they’re military.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I share your sense, but probably have more dread.&lt;br /&gt;
This election is turning out to be quite the civic crucible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmaz, FWIW, I too have the sense that she is quite possibly a whole box of Pandora all on her own.  </p>
<p>And they’ve played her/us beautifully.  Where have you seen her interviewed?  On MTP?  On any credible show?  They’ll work to get her ready for Oprah, and they’ll keep her off the Daily Show as long as they can.  Her first interview was to PEOPLE magazine.</p>
<p>I am amazed at how much, in the space of a single week, I have come to have a whole new level of contempt for the superficial, trivializing machinations of the GOP. And what this says about McCain is abysmal.   She’s got a lifetime full of grudges and it sure looks as if she derives satisfaction from upending existing structures &#8211; -unless they’re military.  </p>
<p>I share your sense, but probably have more dread.<br />
This election is turning out to be quite the civic crucible.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/karma-mccains-veep-announcement-timing-backfires/#comment-97723</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bwa-hahahaha!!  I haven’t thought of that storyline in forever!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bwa-hahahaha!!  I haven’t thought of that storyline in forever!</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/karma-mccains-veep-announcement-timing-backfires/#comment-97721</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All I know is that i’ve a sudden yearning to revisit those X-File episodes about bees.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I know is that i’ve a sudden yearning to revisit those X-File episodes about bees.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/karma-mccains-veep-announcement-timing-backfires/#comment-97708</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t really know what your gender is — but if you’re male, try to think like a woman while you read it.  It’s not easy; Pinkola-Estes is very feminine, wrote for women, prescribes for women.  But if you can be in touch with the feminine as you read it, you can recognize many of the larger problems women have in western society.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t really know what your gender is — but if you’re male, try to think like a woman while you read it.  It’s not easy; Pinkola-Estes is very feminine, wrote for women, prescribes for women.  But if you can be in touch with the feminine as you read it, you can recognize many of the larger problems women have in western society.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think there will be more news about what they’re doing up there, and you’re right, it’s not so much research as damage control. Though they seem to have gotten a late start.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there will be more news about what they’re doing up there, and you’re right, it’s not so much research as damage control. Though they seem to have gotten a late start.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnesotachuck</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/karma-mccains-veep-announcement-timing-backfires/#comment-97700</link>
		<dc:creator>Minnesotachuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I ran across the copy of that book (&lt;em&gt;Women Who Run with the Wolves&lt;/em&gt;), which my daughter bought during her college years, while purging the stuff in the basement a week or so ago.  Now I’ll have to read it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran across the copy of that book (<em>Women Who Run with the Wolves</em>), which my daughter bought during her college years, while purging the stuff in the basement a week or so ago.  Now I’ll have to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/karma-mccains-veep-announcement-timing-backfires/#comment-97697</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, I think a lot of Lakoff, but I’m always aware that he is a man and that it often means he thinks as one.  He’s the kinder, gentler version of “with us or against us”.  But he is right about progressives needing something beyond our logical, deductive reasoning to fight this battle; he understands that we are bringing the wrong weapon to the fight again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think a lot of Lakoff, but I’m always aware that he is a man and that it often means he thinks as one.  He’s the kinder, gentler version of “with us or against us”.  But he is right about progressives needing something beyond our logical, deductive reasoning to fight this battle; he understands that we are bringing the wrong weapon to the fight again.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EW, lets elaborate on this point a little more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am thinking of what happened to public records of George W. Bush’s service in the Texas National Guard during Vietnam that mysteriously vanished before Dan Rather could get his hands on them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am thinking about hospital records concerning the birth of Trig and the pregnancy care of Trig’s mother, as well as records relating to Trig’s birth certificate, etc. Ordinarily there would be a pretty thorough paper trail on these things. I imagine that any such records that deviate from the story as currently told by Gov. Palin will be scrubbed or destroyed or otherwise removed from public view by this “team.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And of course similar records “management” of other embarrassing details currently under investigation and litigation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW, lets elaborate on this point a little more.</p>
<p>I am thinking of what happened to public records of George W. Bush’s service in the Texas National Guard during Vietnam that mysteriously vanished before Dan Rather could get his hands on them.</p>
<p>I am thinking about hospital records concerning the birth of Trig and the pregnancy care of Trig’s mother, as well as records relating to Trig’s birth certificate, etc. Ordinarily there would be a pretty thorough paper trail on these things. I imagine that any such records that deviate from the story as currently told by Gov. Palin will be scrubbed or destroyed or otherwise removed from public view by this “team.”</p>
<p>And of course similar records “management” of other embarrassing details currently under investigation and litigation.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, yes, considering the shallow vetting that had gone on before, they’re no doubt worried about other “smoking guns” that they want to put in quarantine before the public finds out about them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your diligence on these issues!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, considering the shallow vetting that had gone on before, they’re no doubt worried about other “smoking guns” that they want to put in quarantine before the public finds out about them. </p>
<p>Thanks for your diligence on these issues!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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