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		<title>By: JohnLopresti</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/29/my-thoughts-on-palin/comment-page-2/#comment-97272</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnLopresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought a moment of Fred Thompson’s early cancelled candidacy finding in an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ethiopianreview.com/2008/palin0003.jpeg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ethiopian article&lt;/a&gt; some aggregated &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/3725/2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;images&lt;/a&gt; of the governor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought a moment of Fred Thompson’s early cancelled candidacy finding in an <a href="http://www.ethiopianreview.com/2008/palin0003.jpeg" rel="nofollow">Ethiopian article</a> some aggregated <a href="http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/3725/2" rel="nofollow">images</a> of the governor.</p>
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		<title>By: BillE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a very late add on to this thread but, I think George is on to something.  I think the GOP ran her out to shutdown the press coverage of the DNC/Obama speech.  That definitely happened.  The second thing is to get democrat sound bytes of the Rahm Emanuel’s of the world insulting her for lack of experience.  Save a little library of them.  Then after she quits to go spend time with the family, start playing them back with Obamas face in the back ground.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very late add on to this thread but, I think George is on to something.  I think the GOP ran her out to shutdown the press coverage of the DNC/Obama speech.  That definitely happened.  The second thing is to get democrat sound bytes of the Rahm Emanuel’s of the world insulting her for lack of experience.  Save a little library of them.  Then after she quits to go spend time with the family, start playing them back with Obamas face in the back ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston1775</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boston1775</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I may be the only one left here, but I want to record a point that Josh Marshall has made in Why Troopergate Matters.  The firing of Monegan, the Commissioner of Public Safety has been widely published in the context of Palin’s alleged abuse of power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In his article is this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(In an interesting sidelight, that may end up telling us a lot, Monegan says no one from the McCain campaign ever contacted him in the vetting process.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;snip&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To follow up the question I asked at #119, I’ll ask it about this situation.  What does the Republican party have to gain from thrusting this mess - this time it’s the widely known Troopergate - on the US and world stage?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If TPM was writing about it on August 13th, those that vetted Palin certainly knew about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/ak_gov_says_staffer_pressed_for_troopers_firing.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....firing.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be the only one left here, but I want to record a point that Josh Marshall has made in Why Troopergate Matters.  The firing of Monegan, the Commissioner of Public Safety has been widely published in the context of Palin’s alleged abuse of power.</p>
<p>In his article is this:</p>
<p>(In an interesting sidelight, that may end up telling us a lot, Monegan says no one from the McCain campaign ever contacted him in the vetting process.)</p>
<p>snip</p>
<p>To follow up the question I asked at #119, I’ll ask it about this situation.  What does the Republican party have to gain from thrusting this mess &#8211; this time it’s the widely known Troopergate &#8211; on the US and world stage?</p>
<p>If TPM was writing about it on August 13th, those that vetted Palin certainly knew about it.<br /><a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/ak_gov_says_staffer_pressed_for_troopers_firing.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi&#8230;..firing.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
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		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think I have said enough nasty things about Hillary supporters in enough places that I would not be welcome at Anglachel’s. Also, even when I was at a fancy university, I had one course in comparative politics and dropped it, and am now very sorry. Most courses in diversity in the United States are things that I would run from.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have said enough nasty things about Hillary supporters in enough places that I would not be welcome at Anglachel’s. Also, even when I was at a fancy university, I had one course in comparative politics and dropped it, and am now very sorry. Most courses in diversity in the United States are things that I would run from.</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
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		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am obviously not Sara, but I think a more egregious example of personality over policy in the left blogosphere was Paul Hackett vs. Sherrod Brown. I remember an old post of Anglachel’s where she is talking about Obama’s “inability to discuss policy”. That is &lt;i&gt;economic&lt;/i&gt; policy. I think we have a good idea where he is on foreign policy. On health care mandates people can legitimately disagree, and people who would prefer single-payer such as nyceve and eugene vociferously rejected them. Otherwise John Edwards himself was unable to say that Hillary’s policies were better, so the people who supported him based on policy can’t have been expected to. But there were few policy differences between the two candidates over which to make a choice. That Hillary was seen as the candidate of the Democratic establishment which has made too many compromises and is continuing to make them isn’t a personality issue. It is a longing for a pure figure who will come in and make everything all right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am obviously not Sara, but I think a more egregious example of personality over policy in the left blogosphere was Paul Hackett vs. Sherrod Brown. I remember an old post of Anglachel’s where she is talking about Obama’s “inability to discuss policy”. That is <i>economic</i> policy. I think we have a good idea where he is on foreign policy. On health care mandates people can legitimately disagree, and people who would prefer single-payer such as nyceve and eugene vociferously rejected them. Otherwise John Edwards himself was unable to say that Hillary’s policies were better, so the people who supported him based on policy can’t have been expected to. But there were few policy differences between the two candidates over which to make a choice. That Hillary was seen as the candidate of the Democratic establishment which has made too many compromises and is continuing to make them isn’t a personality issue. It is a longing for a pure figure who will come in and make everything all right.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston1775</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boston1775</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve been visiting sites where religious people are commenting about this topic.  What I am finding is that for some of them, it doesn’t seem to matter which is true.  If Governor Palin faked a pregnancy to protect her daughter, they say it has been done routinely in the past and will be done routinely in the future.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They have made the point that this is a way to handle things when a child sins - and parents through the ages have children who choose to sin - and most importantly, it does not require the government to take care of anything.  The parents take care of it.  No embarrassment for the daughter, no shotgun wedding for the boy, and the child is raised in its birth family.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many seem convinced that the evil KOS has made this smear up rather than looking at the Anchorage Daily News which supplied article after article expressing varying levels of surprise over the 7th (and what turned out to be the 8th) month pregnancy announcement and the 8 or up to 12 hour plane ride with leaking amniotic fluid, bypassing reputable hospitals with a NICU to get to a hospital/clinic near their small town without a NICU. (These last statements about the quality of healthcare bypassed in order to get to lesser quality healthcare without a neonatal intensive care unit are not ones I’ve personally followed up on, but I will.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From a religious standpoint, it seems that Sarah Palin is being victimized no matter which way this turns out.  The left is evil.  The left is pathetic.  The left has no shame.  The left doesn’t understand the wisdom of working things out in the family. They would rather “suck the brains of a grandchild out, etc.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I found this story in the Anchoage Daily News.  In effect, the story found me when I went to a logical source to find out more about a complete unknown.  It was their headlines, expressing the complete surprise of her own staff which I brought to your attention.  Their headlines as of the moment include “Troopergate Inquiry Hangs Over Campaign” - “Palin Touts Stance on ‘Bridge to Nowhere,’ Doesn’t Note Flip-Flop” - “Evangelicals Rave Over Choice of Palin for VP”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adn.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.adn.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both papers of note in Alaska are questioning Sarah Palin’s fitness to govern the United States of America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This mess was known by whomever vetted her.  This was in the NYT of Alaska. Of course we would “find” it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So I think it is wise to ask what the Republican party has to gain from thrusting this mess onto the US and world stage.  Why would they do this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been visiting sites where religious people are commenting about this topic.  What I am finding is that for some of them, it doesn’t seem to matter which is true.  If Governor Palin faked a pregnancy to protect her daughter, they say it has been done routinely in the past and will be done routinely in the future.</p>
<p>They have made the point that this is a way to handle things when a child sins &#8211; and parents through the ages have children who choose to sin &#8211; and most importantly, it does not require the government to take care of anything.  The parents take care of it.  No embarrassment for the daughter, no shotgun wedding for the boy, and the child is raised in its birth family.</p>
<p>Many seem convinced that the evil KOS has made this smear up rather than looking at the Anchorage Daily News which supplied article after article expressing varying levels of surprise over the 7th (and what turned out to be the 8th) month pregnancy announcement and the 8 or up to 12 hour plane ride with leaking amniotic fluid, bypassing reputable hospitals with a NICU to get to a hospital/clinic near their small town without a NICU. (These last statements about the quality of healthcare bypassed in order to get to lesser quality healthcare without a neonatal intensive care unit are not ones I’ve personally followed up on, but I will.)</p>
<p>From a religious standpoint, it seems that Sarah Palin is being victimized no matter which way this turns out.  The left is evil.  The left is pathetic.  The left has no shame.  The left doesn’t understand the wisdom of working things out in the family. They would rather “suck the brains of a grandchild out, etc.”</p>
<p>I found this story in the Anchoage Daily News.  In effect, the story found me when I went to a logical source to find out more about a complete unknown.  It was their headlines, expressing the complete surprise of her own staff which I brought to your attention.  Their headlines as of the moment include “Troopergate Inquiry Hangs Over Campaign” &#8211; “Palin Touts Stance on ‘Bridge to Nowhere,’ Doesn’t Note Flip-Flop” &#8211; “Evangelicals Rave Over Choice of Palin for VP”.<br /><a href="http://www.adn.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adn.com/</a></p>
<p>Both papers of note in Alaska are questioning Sarah Palin’s fitness to govern the United States of America.</p>
<p>This mess was known by whomever vetted her.  This was in the NYT of Alaska. Of course we would “find” it. </p>
<p>So I think it is wise to ask what the Republican party has to gain from thrusting this mess onto the US and world stage.  Why would they do this?</p>
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		<title>By: skdadl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skdadl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That strikes me as a very good big thought.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That strikes me as a very good big thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lllphd — AVC is a trojan downloader, &lt;a href=&quot;http://secunia.com/virus_information/27639/downloader-avc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;according to Secunia&lt;/a&gt;. It’s been around awhile so a more recent version of antivirus should tackle it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shut down the network at your house, assuming it’s the only one your daughter’s machine can access and she’s on WiFi (if she’s using ethernet, unplug her machine from the network).  Use your machine to download a copy of AVG antivirus (the free version) from Download.com onto a thumb drive and then copy that to her machine.  Run it, then try reattaching the machine to the internet and then running an online antivirus like &lt;a href=&quot;http://housecall.trendmicro.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trend Micro Housecall&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be prepared to work at this for a while.  Good luck!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lllphd — AVC is a trojan downloader, <a href="http://secunia.com/virus_information/27639/downloader-avc/" rel="nofollow">according to Secunia</a>. It’s been around awhile so a more recent version of antivirus should tackle it.</p>
<p>Shut down the network at your house, assuming it’s the only one your daughter’s machine can access and she’s on WiFi (if she’s using ethernet, unplug her machine from the network).  Use your machine to download a copy of AVG antivirus (the free version) from Download.com onto a thumb drive and then copy that to her machine.  Run it, then try reattaching the machine to the internet and then running an online antivirus like <a href="http://housecall.trendmicro.com/" rel="nofollow">Trend Micro Housecall</a>.</p>
<p>Be prepared to work at this for a while.  Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: pseudonymousinnc</title>
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		<dc:creator>pseudonymousinnc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My one big thought on Palin?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Biden has to debate her as Cheney’s successor. More to the point, he has to debate Cheney, Cheney’s legacy, and the Cheney OVP.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My one big thought on Palin?</p>
<p>Biden has to debate her as Cheney’s successor. More to the point, he has to debate Cheney, Cheney’s legacy, and the Cheney OVP.</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
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		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EW’s point about the fight against the polar bears was excellent. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am now reading the thread. Part of the brilliance of the announcement was that they selected somebody who was not well known, so the news consumers would want to know all about her and the broadcasters would feel they were doing a public service. ATC made sure to mention the polar bears after their profile of her. As my dad listened, he said, “This woman is a &lt;i&gt;Republican&lt;/i&gt;.” So it may have backfired. On paper, this woman has very little appeal to independents.&lt;br /&gt;
Daily papers are wonderful because ideally you do get 24 hours to reflect on each story.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW’s point about the fight against the polar bears was excellent. </p>
<p>I am now reading the thread. Part of the brilliance of the announcement was that they selected somebody who was not well known, so the news consumers would want to know all about her and the broadcasters would feel they were doing a public service. ATC made sure to mention the polar bears after their profile of her. As my dad listened, he said, “This woman is a <i>Republican</i>.” So it may have backfired. On paper, this woman has very little appeal to independents.<br />
Daily papers are wonderful because ideally you do get 24 hours to reflect on each story.</p>
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