Comments on: Malevolence In Mississippi http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Nell http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96061 Nell Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:52:54 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96061 <p>Unbunch your underwear about the possible loss of a Dem Senator in Delaware. Biden can run for both offices, be sworn in as Senator and resign when Congress convenes, and the Democratic governor of Delaware will appoint a Senator who will run again in 2010.</p> Unbunch your underwear about the possible loss of a Dem Senator in Delaware. Biden can run for both offices, be sworn in as Senator and resign when Congress convenes, and the Democratic governor of Delaware will appoint a Senator who will run again in 2010.

]]> By: PetePierce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96014 PetePierce Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:55:17 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96014 <p>At what point in the next 8 years do the Clintons of Chipaqua plan to either </p> <p>1) Support Obama (They haven’t yet in fact)<br /> 2) Go for it–Try to get Bill in a McCain Cabinet and put Hillruh who is stiffing Penn for $5 million and has $200 million in her own bank accounts on McCain’s ticket as VP?</p> At what point in the next 8 years do the Clintons of Chipaqua plan to either

1) Support Obama (They haven’t yet in fact)
2) Go for it–Try to get Bill in a McCain Cabinet and put Hillruh who is stiffing Penn for $5 million and has $200 million in her own bank accounts on McCain’s ticket as VP?

]]> By: PetePierce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96009 PetePierce Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:33:10 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96009 <p>Care to elaborate phred on the details of </p> <blockquote><p> The more tightly Obama has embraced the establishment, the worse he has done in the polls.</p></blockquote> <p><strong>How </strong>has he tightly embraced the establishment <em>that has had a direct impact on polls?</em></p> Care to elaborate phred on the details of

The more tightly Obama has embraced the establishment, the worse he has done in the polls.

How has he tightly embraced the establishment that has had a direct impact on polls?

]]> By: PetePierce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96008 PetePierce Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:30:59 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96008 <p>TRe more racially biased poorly educated white people have been mobilized by fictional commercials the better McCain has done in the polls. If you think that Obama’s FISA vote hurt him in the polls, that’s lunacy. I deplored that vote, and said so repeatedly. It was a cheap political calculus. But Obama hasn’t made a lot of “centrist moves.”</p> <p>Allowing McCain to campaign and project that he is not American, that he is not “a patriot,” to pander to stupid slogans like “Drill now wherever the fuck and your gas problems will be solved after you have become Saudi Arabian Oil Addicts who continue not to give a flying fuck about your addiction”, and Tepid Clintons of Chippaqua’s lack of support have contributed to McCain’s pulling up in the polls</p> <p><em>Obama refused to take off the gloves, but that’s over. And we will have a feild day tearing McCain apart, along Corsi and his Swift Boat 527s</em>.</p> <p>P.S. The Clintons of Chipaqua weren’t vetted because they refused to release the info required</p> <p>1) 2007 Tax Returns<br /> 2) Foundation Contributors<br /> 3) Library Contributors</p> <p>They should have been kept the fuck out of Denver.</p> TRe more racially biased poorly educated white people have been mobilized by fictional commercials the better McCain has done in the polls. If you think that Obama’s FISA vote hurt him in the polls, that’s lunacy. I deplored that vote, and said so repeatedly. It was a cheap political calculus. But Obama hasn’t made a lot of “centrist moves.”

Allowing McCain to campaign and project that he is not American, that he is not “a patriot,” to pander to stupid slogans like “Drill now wherever the fuck and your gas problems will be solved after you have become Saudi Arabian Oil Addicts who continue not to give a flying fuck about your addiction”, and Tepid Clintons of Chippaqua’s lack of support have contributed to McCain’s pulling up in the polls

Obama refused to take off the gloves, but that’s over. And we will have a feild day tearing McCain apart, along Corsi and his Swift Boat 527s.

P.S. The Clintons of Chipaqua weren’t vetted because they refused to release the info required

1) 2007 Tax Returns
2) Foundation Contributors
3) Library Contributors

They should have been kept the fuck out of Denver.

]]> By: PetePierce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96005 PetePierce Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:24:36 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-96005 <p>How about a Supreme Court of 3 More Nino Scalia’s You Can Believe in and an Open Endede 15 Billion Dollar a Month Dover Coffin Factory You Can Believe In or a Russia Says Fuck You We’ll Roll over you Ally any Time We Please You Can Believe In or an FBI will Make A Criminal Case Against You Based on a Theoretical Biometric Profile You Can Believe In?</p> <p>I’d say Biden represents a change against that. You can vote with raccists for more of the same if you like.</p> How about a Supreme Court of 3 More Nino Scalia’s You Can Believe in and an Open Endede 15 Billion Dollar a Month Dover Coffin Factory You Can Believe In or a Russia Says Fuck You We’ll Roll over you Ally any Time We Please You Can Believe In or an FBI will Make A Criminal Case Against You Based on a Theoretical Biometric Profile You Can Believe In?

I’d say Biden represents a change against that. You can vote with raccists for more of the same if you like.

]]> By: phred http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95999 phred Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:04:02 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95999 <p>The more tightly Obama has embraced the establishment, the worse he has done in the polls. He may mean business, but it is also possible he will sufficiently alienate all those new enthusiastic voters he brought to the polls during the primaries to torpedo his very promising candidacy.</p> The more tightly Obama has embraced the establishment, the worse he has done in the polls. He may mean business, but it is also possible he will sufficiently alienate all those new enthusiastic voters he brought to the polls during the primaries to torpedo his very promising candidacy.

]]> By: readerOfTeaLeaves http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95998 readerOfTeaLeaves Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:22:40 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95998 <p>Sorry, meant ‘means business’ in the sense that Biden must have phenomenal institutional knowledge plus he really, really understands the committee staffers and the legislative process.</p> <p>I’d prefer change that can actually be institutionalized to bullshit promises.<br /> And I say that as an environmentalist — enough with empty promises. To get things done requires people (flawed as they may be) who understand what’s wrong with institutions and can attract smart employees. Here’s hoping…</p> Sorry, meant ‘means business’ in the sense that Biden must have phenomenal institutional knowledge plus he really, really understands the committee staffers and the legislative process.

I’d prefer change that can actually be institutionalized to bullshit promises.
And I say that as an environmentalist — enough with empty promises. To get things done requires people (flawed as they may be) who understand what’s wrong with institutions and can attract smart employees. Here’s hoping…

]]> By: readerOfTeaLeaves http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95997 readerOfTeaLeaves Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:20:24 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95997 <p>Actually, to me it’s a sign that Obama means serious business.<br /> I could certainly be mistaken.</p> <p>But Biden has to know where A LOT of bodies are buried in D.C., he’s witty, and he’s never fallen for the “GOP is better at security’ bullshit the way that Kerry and Edwards did. I’d love to see him take on Karl Rove… God, that could be funny.</p> Actually, to me it’s a sign that Obama means serious business.
I could certainly be mistaken.

But Biden has to know where A LOT of bodies are buried in D.C., he’s witty, and he’s never fallen for the “GOP is better at security’ bullshit the way that Kerry and Edwards did. I’d love to see him take on Karl Rove… God, that could be funny.

]]> By: jdmckay http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95995 jdmckay Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:02:48 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95995 <p>Yes, Biden voted against FISA.</p> <p>He was also big cheeleader… many photo ops w/Junior, on buildup to Iraq invasion. He also voted for Bankruptcy bill… a sop to monied financial lobbying. That bill, AFAIC was a monstrocity.</p> <p>I do agree, however, Biden does do his homework (at least compared to average lawmaker) as does know Iraq/ME realities. </p> <p>IMO, if Obama wanted an ME wonk General Clark would’ve been better: Clark’s been right on Iraq from the git-go, has a very strong track record of knowing what he’s doing (and doing it well), is ex-repub in good standing, speaks with conviction and in my view has demonstrated high integrity since he arrived in the public’s eye. He makes less gaffs than Biden, and would be harder for repug hitmen to compromise.</p> <p>But then, Obama didn’t ask me so…</p> Yes, Biden voted against FISA.

He was also big cheeleader… many photo ops w/Junior, on buildup to Iraq invasion. He also voted for Bankruptcy bill… a sop to monied financial lobbying. That bill, AFAIC was a monstrocity.

I do agree, however, Biden does do his homework (at least compared to average lawmaker) as does know Iraq/ME realities.

IMO, if Obama wanted an ME wonk General Clark would’ve been better: Clark’s been right on Iraq from the git-go, has a very strong track record of knowing what he’s doing (and doing it well), is ex-repub in good standing, speaks with conviction and in my view has demonstrated high integrity since he arrived in the public’s eye. He makes less gaffs than Biden, and would be harder for repug hitmen to compromise.

But then, Obama didn’t ask me so…

]]> By: phred http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95992 phred Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:30:43 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/malevolence-in-mississippi/#comment-95992 <p>Now that I got that off my chest, bmaz thanks for this post. Horton has a piece on it, too. Along with your various recent posts, it certainly confirms that BushCo isn’t backing off one bit in their brazen gaming the of the system.</p> Now that I got that off my chest, bmaz thanks for this post. Horton has a piece on it, too. Along with your various recent posts, it certainly confirms that BushCo isn’t backing off one bit in their brazen gaming the of the system.

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