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	<title>Comments on: Okay, the Cookies Were Stupid and Silly, But Plagiarizing Your Foreign Policy Too?</title>
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		<title>By: melior</title>
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		<dc:creator>melior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Add &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/12/politics/horserace/entry4345213.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;plagiarizing&lt;/a&gt; Michael Myers’ Wayne’s World for his campaign ads to the list.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/12/politics/horserace/entry4345213.shtml" rel="nofollow">plagiarizing</a> Michael Myers’ Wayne’s World for his campaign ads to the list.</p>
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		<title>By: JThomason</title>
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		<dc:creator>JThomason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Georgia cites Russian incited Ossetian violence in outlying hamlets the night before is their movement last week as provocation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please ignore the “is” in this sentence. I am.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Georgia cites Russian incited Ossetian violence in outlying hamlets the night before is their movement last week as provocation.</p>
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<p>Please ignore the “is” in this sentence. I am.</p>
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		<title>By: JThomason</title>
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		<dc:creator>JThomason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I dare say he was seeking credible information or at least information he could verify.  By the way is there really much dispute that Georgia has had an institutional Christian element since the 4th Century?  We can do better in a time of international crisis than to quibble over the authenticity and attribution of generally verifiable assertions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think our time may be better spent in attempting to verify the conflicting justifications for military violence in Ossetia and Georgia.  Russia, with a speed that betrays any honest effort of diligent verification, claims first 2000 dead then 1600 dead citing genocide, civilian killings, the killing of women and children and the defiling of graves.  This clearly is a calculated reflection of the rhetoric of US and Western foreign policy over the last 15 years. Check out russiatoday.ru and you can verify the intensity of this characterization. Analogies are being drawn in these sources to US treatment of Afghani and Iraqi civilians. Georgia cites Russian incited Ossetian violence in outlying hamlets the night before is their movement last week as provocation.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Georgia lacks the broad scope media where with all of the Russians.  Western media outlets have had to rely on even more nebulous general themes in matching the Russians glossing over many of the Russian accusations that Georgian leadership is criminal. Here we do have sourcing and verification issues that are begging for the kind of forensic analysis that the folks around here can provide.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dare say he was seeking credible information or at least information he could verify.  By the way is there really much dispute that Georgia has had an institutional Christian element since the 4th Century?  We can do better in a time of international crisis than to quibble over the authenticity and attribution of generally verifiable assertions.</p>
<p>I think our time may be better spent in attempting to verify the conflicting justifications for military violence in Ossetia and Georgia.  Russia, with a speed that betrays any honest effort of diligent verification, claims first 2000 dead then 1600 dead citing genocide, civilian killings, the killing of women and children and the defiling of graves.  This clearly is a calculated reflection of the rhetoric of US and Western foreign policy over the last 15 years. Check out russiatoday.ru and you can verify the intensity of this characterization. Analogies are being drawn in these sources to US treatment of Afghani and Iraqi civilians. Georgia cites Russian incited Ossetian violence in outlying hamlets the night before is their movement last week as provocation.  </p>
<p>But Georgia lacks the broad scope media where with all of the Russians.  Western media outlets have had to rely on even more nebulous general themes in matching the Russians glossing over many of the Russian accusations that Georgian leadership is criminal. Here we do have sourcing and verification issues that are begging for the kind of forensic analysis that the folks around here can provide.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Condi’s not his sourcing.  He’s asking the morons in the Bush administration how they’re going to clean up the mess they’ve made and how many more messes they’re leaving for him to clean up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The list is growing exponentially bigger.  Condi Rice is not on Obama’s foreign policy team.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condi’s not his sourcing.  He’s asking the morons in the Bush administration how they’re going to clean up the mess they’ve made and how many more messes they’re leaving for him to clean up.</p>
<p>The list is growing exponentially bigger.  Condi Rice is not on Obama’s foreign policy team.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve been saying that for months back in the Hatfill articles by Marcy which invoked the consummately stupid use of puppy dogs by the stupid FBI and stupid DOJ.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to continue with the doggie theme, getting the anthrax out of the jaws of those 400 labs that have been spawned and 15000 workers is going to be like pulling a favorite rope toy out of the jaws of a pit bull.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s going to be damned hard to put the anthrax genie in the  bottle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And as I’ve been saying, and Elisa Harris echos, we ain’t got no plan and we ain’t got no defense against acute anthrax.  We have 60 million vaccines that are meant to be used against cutaneous anthrax, not fatal pulmonary anthrax that must be given over 18 months to confer immunity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If someone drops a pound of anthrax over San Diego this morning, 100,000 people are dead quickly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been saying that for months back in the Hatfill articles by Marcy which invoked the consummately stupid use of puppy dogs by the stupid FBI and stupid DOJ.</p>
<p>And to continue with the doggie theme, getting the anthrax out of the jaws of those 400 labs that have been spawned and 15000 workers is going to be like pulling a favorite rope toy out of the jaws of a pit bull.</p>
<p>It’s going to be damned hard to put the anthrax genie in the  bottle.</p>
<p>And as I’ve been saying, and Elisa Harris echos, we ain’t got no plan and we ain’t got no defense against acute anthrax.  We have 60 million vaccines that are meant to be used against cutaneous anthrax, not fatal pulmonary anthrax that must be given over 18 months to confer immunity.</p>
<p>If someone drops a pound of anthrax over San Diego this morning, 100,000 people are dead quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NYT on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/12/opinion/12harris.html?hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ivins&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But the genetic analysis demonstrating that the anthrax powder used in the 2001 letters was a formulation first made at the Army biodefense research center at Fort Detrick, Md., suggests that our biodefense program risks creating the very threat it is meant to fight.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/12/opinion/12harris.html?hp" rel="nofollow">Ivins</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>But the genetic analysis demonstrating that the anthrax powder used in the 2001 letters was a formulation first made at the Army biodefense research center at Fort Detrick, Md., suggests that our biodefense program risks creating the very threat it is meant to fight.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s a transcript of the conversation for you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Yo Condi–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How come you posed purported Russian expert and you’ve fucked up everything you’ve touched?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a transcript of the conversation for you.</p>
<p>“Yo Condi–</p>
<p>How come you posed purported Russian expert and you’ve fucked up everything you’ve touched?”</p>
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		<title>By: JThomason</title>
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		<dc:creator>JThomason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is Obama’s sourcing, oh so much better:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Barack Obama broke from his Hawaiian vacation to discuss the clashes between Georgia and Russia with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080810/pl_politico/12419&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yahoo.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Obama’s sourcing, oh so much better:</p>
<blockquote><p>Barack Obama broke from his Hawaiian vacation to discuss the clashes between Georgia and Russia with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice…</p>
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<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080810/pl_politico/12419" rel="nofollow">Yahoo.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OMG.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But why would John McCain be dishing on what needs to be done with regard to Georgia/Russia at all?  Can you imagine the flack if Obama had been giving a speech of this type?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why would John McCain be dishing on what needs to be done with regard to Georgia/Russia at all?  Can you imagine the flack if Obama had been giving a speech of this type?</p>
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