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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;They are adrift in a sense, but they are also coming to their senses, and they want to find a way to return politics and government to a higher moral plane, essentially to tell the raw truth about all this as the only process likely to lead to positive change.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wow.&lt;br /&gt;
Or, as bmaz might say, ‘the worm has turned’.&lt;br /&gt;
So… guess I’ll be late at the bookshop tonight, because I recognize your name from comments through the years and this looks both riveting and important.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And FWIW, I’d sure rather the publishers make fortunes than have all that lucre entering the criminal, corrupt fools at Bear Stearns.  Yeepers!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They are adrift in a sense, but they are also coming to their senses, and they want to find a way to return politics and government to a higher moral plane, essentially to tell the raw truth about all this as the only process likely to lead to positive change.</p>
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<p>wow.<br />
Or, as bmaz might say, ‘the worm has turned’.<br />
So… guess I’ll be late at the bookshop tonight, because I recognize your name from comments through the years and this looks both riveting and important.</p>
<p>And FWIW, I’d sure rather the publishers make fortunes than have all that lucre entering the criminal, corrupt fools at Bear Stearns.  Yeepers!</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
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		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like a fabulous and riveting FDL Book Salon with you as host!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a fabulous and riveting FDL Book Salon with you as host!</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are we sure Richer and Maguire haven’t set Suskind up?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they have, then they’re taking themselves down in the process.  Ron has tape, see the partial transcripts released today.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are we sure Richer and Maguire haven’t set Suskind up?</p>
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<p>If they have, then they’re taking themselves down in the process.  Ron has tape, see the partial transcripts released today.</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for the capsule review, Sara!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the lawyers out there: How, exactly is this a violation of the CIA’s charter?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve always assumed that the CIA fed stories to non-U.S. papers when it served their purposes.  Given the vast array of unpleasant things I know of the agency having done, this strikes me as relatively minor.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The part that I’m most interested in is not the CIA’s action, but that cream-colored letter.  I have difficulty in believing that anyone in the WH or the OVP would commit such a request to paper; too good to be true, and all that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are we sure Richer and Maguire haven’t set Suskind up?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the capsule review, Sara!</p>
<p>For the lawyers out there: How, exactly is this a violation of the CIA’s charter?  </p>
<p>I’ve always assumed that the CIA fed stories to non-U.S. papers when it served their purposes.  Given the vast array of unpleasant things I know of the agency having done, this strikes me as relatively minor.  </p>
<p>The part that I’m most interested in is not the CIA’s action, but that cream-colored letter.  I have difficulty in believing that anyone in the WH or the OVP would commit such a request to paper; too good to be true, and all that.</p>
<p>Are we sure Richer and Maguire haven’t set Suskind up?</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EW,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for another great post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sara, thanks for the Suskin heads up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW,</p>
<p>Thank you for another great post.</p>
<p>Sara, thanks for the Suskin heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is anyone else have a problem with the toolbox?  None of the icons function on my end.  The link icon has never worked for me but now, none of them work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry bmaz, this problem with the tools on my end is why i could not quote you above.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT</p>
<p>Is anyone else have a problem with the toolbox?  None of the icons function on my end.  The link icon has never worked for me but now, none of them work.</p>
<p>Sorry bmaz, this problem with the tools on my end is why i could not quote you above.</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bmaz @ 36 and Bob @ 46&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me help you out with that then. I will not only imply, but actively recommend, that he be exorcised by the terms of the Constitution, and thereafter prosecuted to the fullest extent and maximum penalty of all applicable law, especially for war crimes. I, um, understand that there are some severe penalties; nevertheless, he should reap that which he has sown and suffer the same degree of compassion he has given others. It is time to set a precedent so that we don’t travel this road ever again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Above quote from bmaz @ 36&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to join Bob, I’m going to get ”all” religion too…Amen! Amen! Amen!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bmaz I wrote similar sentiments in the comments of one of EW’s posts about a week ago. Full enforcement of the law in order to set an example or abuse of power and the people will never end.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmaz @ 36 and Bob @ 46</p>
<p>Let me help you out with that then. I will not only imply, but actively recommend, that he be exorcised by the terms of the Constitution, and thereafter prosecuted to the fullest extent and maximum penalty of all applicable law, especially for war crimes. I, um, understand that there are some severe penalties; nevertheless, he should reap that which he has sown and suffer the same degree of compassion he has given others. It is time to set a precedent so that we don’t travel this road ever again.</p>
<p>Above quote from bmaz @ 36</p>
<p>And to join Bob, I’m going to get ”all” religion too…Amen! Amen! Amen!</p>
<p>bmaz I wrote similar sentiments in the comments of one of EW’s posts about a week ago. Full enforcement of the law in order to set an example or abuse of power and the people will never end.</p>
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		<title>By: ScrewBush</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScrewBush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yawn,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okay boys and girls what will be the result of all of this…&lt;br /&gt;
1. Mr. Conyers will hold another hearing!&lt;br /&gt;
2. Folks in the WH or once in the WH will give him the finger again.&lt;br /&gt;
3. Mr. Conyers will hold a hearing about that.&lt;br /&gt;
4. Repeat steps 1 thru 3 until January of 2008.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This stupidity is brought to you my Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic DINO’s.  Remember, Nancy has said more or less that President Bush is an idiot.  Yet she’s comfortable allowing an idiot to be in control of our nation’s security, the lives of our soldiers, our economic future, our Constitution, and what used to be called justice here in America.  When you knowingly allow a moron to drive the school bus over the cliff, you’re equally culpable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn,</p>
<p>Okay boys and girls what will be the result of all of this…<br />
1. Mr. Conyers will hold another hearing!<br />
2. Folks in the WH or once in the WH will give him the finger again.<br />
3. Mr. Conyers will hold a hearing about that.<br />
4. Repeat steps 1 thru 3 until January of 2008.</p>
<p>This stupidity is brought to you my Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic DINO’s.  Remember, Nancy has said more or less that President Bush is an idiot.  Yet she’s comfortable allowing an idiot to be in control of our nation’s security, the lives of our soldiers, our economic future, our Constitution, and what used to be called justice here in America.  When you knowingly allow a moron to drive the school bus over the cliff, you’re equally culpable.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No wonder Mr. Rove has repeatedly refused to testify under oath; that oath includes the pesky phrase “. . . the truth, the &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;whole&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; truth, and &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;nothing but&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; the truth . . .”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clearly, he’d have to leave his word-mincing at the door.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope his plan for “more time with the family” includes weekly visits from his wife and grown son across a glass panel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder Mr. Rove has repeatedly refused to testify under oath; that oath includes the pesky phrase “. . . the truth, the <em></em>whole<em></em> truth, and <em></em>nothing but<em></em> the truth . . .”</p>
<p>Clearly, he’d have to leave his word-mincing at the door.</p>
<p>Hope his plan for “more time with the family” includes weekly visits from his wife and grown son across a glass panel.</p>
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		<title>By: MadDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OT Breaking - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ronsuskind.com/thewayoftheworld/transcripts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From Ron Suskind’s website&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;…I’ve decided to post a partial transcript of one of a number of taped conversations in which Rob Richer and I discussed, on the record, the Habbush letter. We discussed it many times through the spring of 2008…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~snip~&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron: Now this is from the Vice President’s Office is how you remembered it–not from the president?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob: No, no, no. What I remember is George saying, ‘we got this from’–basically, from what George said was ‘downtown.’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron: Which is the White House?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob: Yes. But he did not–in my memory–never said president, vice president, or NSC. Okay? But now–he may have hinted–just by the way he said it, it would have–cause almost all that stuff came from one place only: Scooter Libby and the shop around the vice president.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron: Yeah, right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob: But he didn’t say that specifically. I would naturally–I would probably stand on my, basically, my reputation and say it came from the vice president.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron: Right, I’m with you, I’m with you. But there wasn’t anything in the writing that you remember saying the vice president.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob: Nope.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron: It just had the White House stationery.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob: Exactly right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron: That’s fine, White House stationery’s fine. Everything’s from there. You know, that’s the center point. But not OVP’s Office. It’s just the White House. It comes from the White House. That’s plain and simple.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rob: And you know, if you’ve ever seen the vice president’s stationery, it’s on the White House letterhead. It may have said OVP. I don’t remember that, so I don’t want to mislead you…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>OT Breaking &#8211; <a href="http://www.ronsuskind.com/thewayoftheworld/transcripts/" rel="nofollow">From Ron Suskind’s website</a>:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>…I’ve decided to post a partial transcript of one of a number of taped conversations in which Rob Richer and I discussed, on the record, the Habbush letter. We discussed it many times through the spring of 2008…</p>
<p>~snip~</p>
<p>Ron: Now this is from the Vice President’s Office is how you remembered it–not from the president?</p>
<p>Rob: No, no, no. What I remember is George saying, ‘we got this from’–basically, from what George said was ‘downtown.’</p>
<p>Ron: Which is the White House?</p>
<p>Rob: Yes. But he did not–in my memory–never said president, vice president, or NSC. Okay? But now–he may have hinted–just by the way he said it, it would have–cause almost all that stuff came from one place only: Scooter Libby and the shop around the vice president.</p>
<p>Ron: Yeah, right.</p>
<p>Rob: But he didn’t say that specifically. I would naturally–I would probably stand on my, basically, my reputation and say it came from the vice president.</p>
<p>Ron: Right, I’m with you, I’m with you. But there wasn’t anything in the writing that you remember saying the vice president.</p>
<p>Rob: Nope.</p>
<p>Ron: It just had the White House stationery.</p>
<p>Rob: Exactly right.</p>
<p>Ron: That’s fine, White House stationery’s fine. Everything’s from there. You know, that’s the center point. But not OVP’s Office. It’s just the White House. It comes from the White House. That’s plain and simple.</p>
<p>Rob: And you know, if you’ve ever seen the vice president’s stationery, it’s on the White House letterhead. It may have said OVP. I don’t remember that, so I don’t want to mislead you…</p>
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