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	<title>Comments on: Conyers to Luskin: We Told You So</title>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/01/conyers-to-luskin-we-told-you-so/comment-page-1/#comment-91466</link>
		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Happy to hear the Bates called the “absolute immunity” bullshit. Where was he on all of the other bullshit claims?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to hear the Bates called the “absolute immunity” bullshit. Where was he on all of the other bullshit claims?</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/01/conyers-to-luskin-we-told-you-so/comment-page-1/#comment-91208</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nancy Pelosi’s Book:  &lt;em&gt;Know Your Power&lt;/em&gt; is a complete flop in the Amazon Rankings.  What she means is Know Your Power–mine has been negative shit–”Bush kicked my ass and the Democrats from one side of D.C. to the other.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy Pelosi’s Book:  <em>Know Your Power</em> is a complete flop in the Amazon Rankings.  What she means is Know Your Power–mine has been negative shit–”Bush kicked my ass and the Democrats from one side of D.C. to the other.”</p>
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		<title>By: Dismayed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dismayed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Free,  what’s up you ol salty dog?  Haven’t seen you in a spell.  Damn, I miss the ol’ troll slappin days.  Never laughed so hard.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for your comment.  I doubt Bush ever leaves the country after his time in office.  But, you are quite right It’d be a hell of a pickle they’d be in if anyone (congress) gave a shit.  I want to believe, but I’m afraid Nancy is just bent to far over the barrel some way or another.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I keep hoping that on election day plus one, congress opens the flood gates and starts kicking some ass, but I just don’t see it.  Too many dirty hands in Washington, they want to wash ‘em and let the dirt flow on down the river.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There will be a few end up in the Hague, but not because our bunch of toga wearing congresspunks did anything.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m still waiting for anything - just anything that looks like accountability to happen - just ANYthing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free,  what’s up you ol salty dog?  Haven’t seen you in a spell.  Damn, I miss the ol’ troll slappin days.  Never laughed so hard.</p>
<p>As for your comment.  I doubt Bush ever leaves the country after his time in office.  But, you are quite right It’d be a hell of a pickle they’d be in if anyone (congress) gave a shit.  I want to believe, but I’m afraid Nancy is just bent to far over the barrel some way or another.  </p>
<p>I keep hoping that on election day plus one, congress opens the flood gates and starts kicking some ass, but I just don’t see it.  Too many dirty hands in Washington, they want to wash ‘em and let the dirt flow on down the river.  </p>
<p>There will be a few end up in the Hague, but not because our bunch of toga wearing congresspunks did anything.  </p>
<p>I’m still waiting for anything &#8211; just anything that looks like accountability to happen &#8211; just ANYthing.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/01/conyers-to-luskin-we-told-you-so/comment-page-1/#comment-91136</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Or to clarify, they have a potential 90 days to extend their time for filing of their appeal (for a period that would be granted beyond that 90 days for the filing) to file an appeal, and a stay by the D.C. Circuit of enforcement of any of Bates’ orders is possible and within their FRAPs (Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or to clarify, they have a potential 90 days to extend their time for filing of their appeal (for a period that would be granted beyond that 90 days for the filing) to file an appeal, and a stay by the D.C. Circuit of enforcement of any of Bates’ orders is possible and within their FRAPs (Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure).</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/08/01/conyers-to-luskin-we-told-you-so/comment-page-1/#comment-91132</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/home.nsf/Content/VL%20-%20RPP%20-%20Circuit%20Rules/$FILE/Rules2006%20Rev%204-2008.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;D.C. Circuit FRAPs and all of them for that matter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Require a notice of appeal to be filed within 60 days of the district court decision in a civil case by either party when the government is a party (Rule 4)(a)(1)(B)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;as Mary said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The DC Court of Appeals (or any) has the power to stay Bates’ order (or any CA has the power to stay a district judge’s order) while the appeal is pending.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The district court can extend the notice of time for filing of the appeal if either party moves for an extension &lt;em&gt;within 30 days after the 60 days expires&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fed Rules of Civil Procedure 60 (g) and &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FRAP 4 (B) (5) (A) (i)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;So if the government wanted to it could motions to extend the time for it to file its appeal to a maximum of 90 days if the motion were granted.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/home.nsf/Content/VL%20-%20RPP%20-%20Circuit%20Rules/$FILE/Rules2006%20Rev%204-2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">D.C. Circuit FRAPs and all of them for that matter</a></p>
<p>Require a notice of appeal to be filed within 60 days of the district court decision in a civil case by either party when the government is a party (Rule 4)(a)(1)(B)</p>
<p>as Mary said.</p>
<p><strong>The DC Court of Appeals (or any) has the power to stay Bates’ order (or any CA has the power to stay a district judge’s order) while the appeal is pending.</strong></p>
<p>The district court can extend the notice of time for filing of the appeal if either party moves for an extension <em>within 30 days after the 60 days expires</em></p>
<p>Fed Rules of Civil Procedure 60 (g) and </p>
<p>FRAP 4 (B) (5) (A) (i)</p>
<p><em>So if the government wanted to it could motions to extend the time for it to file its appeal to a maximum of 90 days if the motion were granted.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Minnesotachuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnesotachuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just who, or what (organization) would have the standing to do such an investigation?  A House committee?  Call me stumped.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just who, or what (organization) would have the standing to do such an investigation?  A House committee?  Call me stumped.</p>
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		<title>By: bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;pelosi is a huge disappointment and has abdicated her responsibilities…. when will the news finally reach her? if it has already and she continues to sit on her hands that’s an even worse thing… i think that is the case presently… give her a kick in the ass from me if anyone is in contact with her.. she is hopeless…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pelosi is a huge disappointment and has abdicated her responsibilities…. when will the news finally reach her? if it has already and she continues to sit on her hands that’s an even worse thing… i think that is the case presently… give her a kick in the ass from me if anyone is in contact with her.. she is hopeless…</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, it’s better than that.  From this week’s Time Magazine when asked why she took impeachment off the table:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“I took it off the table a long time ago.  You can’t talk about impeachment unless you have the facts, and you can’t have the facts unless you have cooperation from the administration.  I think the Republicans would like nothing better than for us to focus on impeachment and take our eye off the ball of a progressive economic agenda”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So point 1: All the criminals have to do is keep quiet and they win; and&lt;br /&gt;
Point 2: They &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; impeachment and boy are we showing them!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it’s better than that.  From this week’s Time Magazine when asked why she took impeachment off the table:</p>
<p><em>“I took it off the table a long time ago.  You can’t talk about impeachment unless you have the facts, and you can’t have the facts unless you have cooperation from the administration.  I think the Republicans would like nothing better than for us to focus on impeachment and take our eye off the ball of a progressive economic agenda”</em></p>
<p>So point 1: All the criminals have to do is keep quiet and they win; and<br />
Point 2: They <em>want</em> impeachment and boy are we showing them!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: quake</title>
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		<dc:creator>quake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, but Runnymeade was a struggle between the King (read GWB) and the Barons (read the Corpocracy) for power, with the peasants (that’s us) left on the sideline.   The Barons won, but it was only hudreds of years later that any rights (from the Magna Carta) trickled down to the peasants.  And habeas corpus has been extinguished of late anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but Runnymeade was a struggle between the King (read GWB) and the Barons (read the Corpocracy) for power, with the peasants (that’s us) left on the sideline.   The Barons won, but it was only hudreds of years later that any rights (from the Magna Carta) trickled down to the peasants.  And habeas corpus has been extinguished of late anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL! I know. I remember. No one did it with joy either like they did to Clinton.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! I know. I remember. No one did it with joy either like they did to Clinton.</p>
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