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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: Judge Bates Rules for the House</title>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah why so afraid?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah why so afraid?</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Depressing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
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		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not Neptune, but there is a cycle emerging which has correlations with the second Nixon Administration during the Watergate prosecutions that took place in the aftermath of the break-ins of 1972.  Archetypal energies are very rich, complex and multidimensional, but in one aspect, the kind of thing one would see is prosecution, judgment, facing the consequences of one’s actions.  This is the configuration that I see as correlating with these current events.  We will see more as the configuration becomes closer to exact.  Interestingly, Rove has the same configuration impacting his birth chart, which I’ve had my eye on for some time.  I thought back then that given the nature of the archetypal forces, Rove would again be having legal problems and would have a more difficult time escaping a reckoning this time.  If Rove is going to face the consequences of his actions, this is the kind of vibration that it would occur under.  In any event, even if he should escape prosecution, it looks like he’ll be going on a “journey into the depths” which is typically a period of &lt;em&gt;sturm and drang&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not Neptune, but there is a cycle emerging which has correlations with the second Nixon Administration during the Watergate prosecutions that took place in the aftermath of the break-ins of 1972.  Archetypal energies are very rich, complex and multidimensional, but in one aspect, the kind of thing one would see is prosecution, judgment, facing the consequences of one’s actions.  This is the configuration that I see as correlating with these current events.  We will see more as the configuration becomes closer to exact.  Interestingly, Rove has the same configuration impacting his birth chart, which I’ve had my eye on for some time.  I thought back then that given the nature of the archetypal forces, Rove would again be having legal problems and would have a more difficult time escaping a reckoning this time.  If Rove is going to face the consequences of his actions, this is the kind of vibration that it would occur under.  In any event, even if he should escape prosecution, it looks like he’ll be going on a “journey into the depths” which is typically a period of <em>sturm and drang</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: MrWhy</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/31/breaking-judge-bates-rules-for-the-house/comment-page-2/#comment-90741</link>
		<dc:creator>MrWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Howzabout a bowler icecream?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howzabout a bowler icecream?</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/31/breaking-judge-bates-rules-for-the-house/comment-page-2/#comment-90713</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My guess is that Conyer’s considers Inherent Contempt to be, in a word, “quaint”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/31/breaking-judge-bates-rules-for-the-house/comment-page-2/#comment-90710</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As to Bates, as an individual, his reactions are far less predictable, for many reasons than the behaviors of entities such as bar associations, and until you are proven wrong in those predictions (realizing that your concerns might prick the conscience of a few, some or many) I shall consider you ‘correct’, Pete.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;~D&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to Bates, as an individual, his reactions are far less predictable, for many reasons than the behaviors of entities such as bar associations, and until you are proven wrong in those predictions (realizing that your concerns might prick the conscience of a few, some or many) I shall consider you ‘correct’, Pete.</p>
<p>;~D</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was dead wrong about my guess of  Bates’ decision.  I wish I weren’t so cynical but I made the same educated guess based on his consistent record in key opinions he has issued both in the district court and the FISA court just as I try to make an educated guess about whether Brent Farvre will be on the field for the Vikings against the Pack or on the field/bench for the pack against the Vikings when that first game is played.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But unless some extraordinary timing occurs, the DOJ is going to lawyer for Rove if they finally vote contempt in the House, and for Miers and Bolten until the cows come home and most of us have the appreciation that unless there is an expedited schedule appeals take an average of several months if you average the D.C. Circuit’s timetable, likewise the Supreme Court.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One thing that I wish anyone including Marcy would clear up for me.  When Marcy talks to Conyers does she ever ask him why he is so afraid of inherent contempt?  It’s been asked before and Conyers hasn’t answered that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was dead wrong about my guess of  Bates’ decision.  I wish I weren’t so cynical but I made the same educated guess based on his consistent record in key opinions he has issued both in the district court and the FISA court just as I try to make an educated guess about whether Brent Farvre will be on the field for the Vikings against the Pack or on the field/bench for the pack against the Vikings when that first game is played.</p>
<p>But unless some extraordinary timing occurs, the DOJ is going to lawyer for Rove if they finally vote contempt in the House, and for Miers and Bolten until the cows come home and most of us have the appreciation that unless there is an expedited schedule appeals take an average of several months if you average the D.C. Circuit’s timetable, likewise the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>One thing that I wish anyone including Marcy would clear up for me.  When Marcy talks to Conyers does she ever ask him why he is so afraid of inherent contempt?  It’s been asked before and Conyers hasn’t answered that.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;She don’t do nothin’ as to the walk.  Note that she has &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Inherent contempt Off her table&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She is stalling on any proceedings against Rove–even a vote of the House&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She don’t do nothin’ as to the walk.  Note that she has </p>
<p>Inherent contempt Off her table</p>
<p>She is stalling on any proceedings against Rove–even a vote of the House</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/31/breaking-judge-bates-rules-for-the-house/comment-page-2/#comment-90696</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why do I have, unhappily, a very strong sense that you are correct?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I have, unhappily, a very strong sense that you are correct?</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/31/breaking-judge-bates-rules-for-the-house/comment-page-2/#comment-90695</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The pigs that fly are in danger of midair collisons soon, because the FAA (not the FISA bill) but the plane regulating agency is incomeptent. It’s only a matter of weeks or months.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And after all the emptywheelers are finished having popcorn and pouring a cold one over this little district court decision, ask yourself when you think these people will be held accountable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look up  D.C. Court of Appeals and their FRAP Check out the time table&lt;br /&gt;
Look up Supreme Court of the United States and its Rules Check out the average time table&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look up Pelosi Nancy Bush Facilitator&lt;br /&gt;
Look Up Pelosi Nancy Basketball Spread Offense to Run Out Clock in the Game&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and please please show me any bar in any state that has ever taken any disciplinary action against a U.S. attorney when it isn’t a tax matter or a bar dues matter.  But please don’t try to hold your breath while doing so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pigs that fly are in danger of midair collisons soon, because the FAA (not the FISA bill) but the plane regulating agency is incomeptent. It’s only a matter of weeks or months.</p>
<p>And after all the emptywheelers are finished having popcorn and pouring a cold one over this little district court decision, ask yourself when you think these people will be held accountable.</p>
<p>Look up  D.C. Court of Appeals and their FRAP Check out the time table<br />
Look up Supreme Court of the United States and its Rules Check out the average time table</p>
<p>Look up Pelosi Nancy Bush Facilitator<br />
Look Up Pelosi Nancy Basketball Spread Offense to Run Out Clock in the Game</p>
<p>and please please show me any bar in any state that has ever taken any disciplinary action against a U.S. attorney when it isn’t a tax matter or a bar dues matter.  But please don’t try to hold your breath while doing so.</p>
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