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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The gathering storm around Richard Perle&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;D.C.’s “Prince of Darkness” has prospered in the shadows between the Beltway and big business — but the latest scandal threatens to bring him down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By Eric Boehlert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; “Though he was forced to give up the board’s chairmanship when some of his private defense-contracting clients were revealed, Perle maintains a unique position as a shadowy Beltway operator who blurs the line between private business and foreign policy. He’s been making lots of noise — and news — lately, and his critics are asking questions about his intentions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s too early to tell how the accumulating controversies will affect Perle’s role as a pro-war spokesman. In the past though, despite a history of missteps, Perle has managed to prosper. Or more important, to maintain the loyalty of senior administration officials (”the string of Perles”), many of whom he’s cultivated for years and who find his pro-war bravado helpful.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/26/perle/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://archive.salon.com/news/.....index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perle  seems to be able to skate right out of any storm that he helps create.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gathering storm around Richard Perle</p>
<p>D.C.’s “Prince of Darkness” has prospered in the shadows between the Beltway and big business — but the latest scandal threatens to bring him down.</p>
<p>By Eric Boehlert</p>
<p> “Though he was forced to give up the board’s chairmanship when some of his private defense-contracting clients were revealed, Perle maintains a unique position as a shadowy Beltway operator who blurs the line between private business and foreign policy. He’s been making lots of noise — and news — lately, and his critics are asking questions about his intentions.</p>
<p>It’s too early to tell how the accumulating controversies will affect Perle’s role as a pro-war spokesman. In the past though, despite a history of missteps, Perle has managed to prosper. Or more important, to maintain the loyalty of senior administration officials (”the string of Perles”), many of whom he’s cultivated for years and who find his pro-war bravado helpful.” </p>
<p><a href="http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/11/26/perle/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://archive.salon.com/news/&#8230;..index.html</a></p>
<p>Perle  seems to be able to skate right out of any storm that he helps create.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Read between the pipelines (this has been in the works for a very long time)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An old Israel-Iraq oil line … reopening?&lt;br /&gt;
By John K. Cooley&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0423/p11s01-coop.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/.....-coop.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Friday April 18, 2003&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Iraq-to-Haifa oil pipeline could spur economic rebirth&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MATTHEW GUTMAN&lt;br /&gt;
Jerusalem Post Service&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/20157/edition_id/411/forma&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jewishsf.com/conten...../411/forma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read between the pipelines (this has been in the works for a very long time)</p>
<p>An old Israel-Iraq oil line … reopening?<br />
By John K. Cooley<br /><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0423/p11s01-coop.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/&#8230;..-coop.html</a></p>
<p>Friday April 18, 2003</p>
<p>Iraq-to-Haifa oil pipeline could spur economic rebirth</p>
<p>MATTHEW GUTMAN<br />
Jerusalem Post Service</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/20157/edition_id/411/forma" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewishsf.com/conten&#8230;../411/forma</a></p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bob, lookee here:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest/3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest/3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Re: A subgroup connected to an outfit in which Richard Perle has been very influential incuded (surprise!) Cong. Curt Weldon:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And the Congressional Missile Defense Caucus and Osprey (or “tilt rotor”) caucus are represented by Representative &lt;strong&gt;Curt Weldon&lt;/strong&gt; and Senator Jon Kyl.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmmm… Weldon…?  The former congressman ‘Weldon’ indicted for working on behalf of Russian &lt;strike&gt;mobsters&lt;/strike&gt; international business outfits…?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, lookee here:  <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest/3" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest/3</a><br />
Re: A subgroup connected to an outfit in which Richard Perle has been very influential incuded (surprise!) Cong. Curt Weldon:</p>
<blockquote><p>And the Congressional Missile Defense Caucus and Osprey (or “tilt rotor”) caucus are represented by Representative <strong>Curt Weldon</strong> and Senator Jon Kyl.</p>
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<p>Hmmmm… Weldon…?  The former congressman ‘Weldon’ indicted for working on behalf of Russian <strike>mobsters</strike> international business outfits…?</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whoops. Apologies for malformatting in previous comment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops. Apologies for malformatting in previous comment.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not knowlegable about either, WO.  Wish I were.&lt;br /&gt;
I don’t think even my affinity for Orhan Pamuk’s literature is going to assist, though I can highly recommend “Snow” re: ’sociopolitical’.  The Christian Science Monitor does some interesting things, and you might search the Economist website, as they’ve done some longer pieces…&lt;br /&gt;
My first ’suzer’ google hit was interesting:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.turkofamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=67&amp;Itemid=167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.turkofamerica.com/i.....Itemid=167&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry not to offer better assistance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re: “Perle”, however, Leen left links on a prior thread (”Aspens”) that were published in the Nation in 2002.  Quite jaw-dropping reading them in 2008 (and feeling quite the dolt to be so late connecting dots).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of Leen’s links includes this gem:http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“…[Perle active with] the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) and the Center for Security Policy (CSP). And just as was the case two decades ago, dozens of their members have ascended to powerful government posts, where their advocacy in support of the same agenda … support for national missile defense, opposition to arms control treaties, championing of wasteful weapons systems, &lt;strong&gt;arms aid to Turkey&lt;/strong&gt; and American unilateralism in general–into a hard line, with support for the Israeli right at its core.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This article also mentions Perle’s  involvement with an Israeli arms dealer “Soltam”, but that’s too far from “Suzer”, methinks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Strange to realize how many people have known about these connections for many years; they’d have had to in order to function in biz or gov’t.  Yet these things never get covered on the MSM.   Perhaps the MSM thinks anything scarier than Britney’s parenting is too much for us, eh?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not knowlegable about either, WO.  Wish I were.<br />
I don’t think even my affinity for Orhan Pamuk’s literature is going to assist, though I can highly recommend “Snow” re: ’sociopolitical’.  The Christian Science Monitor does some interesting things, and you might search the Economist website, as they’ve done some longer pieces…<br />
My first ’suzer’ google hit was interesting:  <a href="http://www.turkofamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=67&amp;Itemid=167" rel="nofollow">http://www.turkofamerica.com/i&#8230;..Itemid=167</a></p>
<p>Sorry not to offer better assistance.</p>
<p>Re: “Perle”, however, Leen left links on a prior thread (”Aspens”) that were published in the Nation in 2002.  Quite jaw-dropping reading them in 2008 (and feeling quite the dolt to be so late connecting dots).</p>
<p>One of Leen’s links includes this gem:<a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest</a></p>
<p>“…[Perle active with] the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) and the Center for Security Policy (CSP). And just as was the case two decades ago, dozens of their members have ascended to powerful government posts, where their advocacy in support of the same agenda … support for national missile defense, opposition to arms control treaties, championing of wasteful weapons systems, <strong>arms aid to Turkey</strong> and American unilateralism in general–into a hard line, with support for the Israeli right at its core.</p>
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<p>This article also mentions Perle’s  involvement with an Israeli arms dealer “Soltam”, but that’s too far from “Suzer”, methinks.</p>
<p>Strange to realize how many people have known about these connections for many years; they’d have had to in order to function in biz or gov’t.  Yet these things never get covered on the MSM.   Perhaps the MSM thinks anything scarier than Britney’s parenting is too much for us, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mizgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;And now, courtesy of the well-connected Richard Perle, the Turkish company AK Group is now dabbling in Kurdistan, the home base of Kurdish forces that–Turkey insists–are a threat to Turkish security.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, KDP and PUK peşmerge are not a threat to Turkey and haven’t been ever.  In the 1990s they fought alongside Ankara against the PKK, which is more of a threat politically to Turkey than anything else because the Kurds in Southeast Turkey (the majority of the world’s Kurds) are overwhelmingly in support of PKK.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not at all surprised that the KRG is cooperating with the Deep State in this matter. . . and others.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Believe me, none of this will benefit the people of South Kurdistan.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And now, courtesy of the well-connected Richard Perle, the Turkish company AK Group is now dabbling in Kurdistan, the home base of Kurdish forces that–Turkey insists–are a threat to Turkish security.</em></p>
<p>Actually, KDP and PUK peşmerge are not a threat to Turkey and haven’t been ever.  In the 1990s they fought alongside Ankara against the PKK, which is more of a threat politically to Turkey than anything else because the Kurds in Southeast Turkey (the majority of the world’s Kurds) are overwhelmingly in support of PKK.</p>
<p>I am not at all surprised that the KRG is cooperating with the Deep State in this matter. . . and others.</p>
<p>Believe me, none of this will benefit the people of South Kurdistan.</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I share your interest in whatever it is she’s got. But umpteen breathless Kos diaries notwithstanding, something tells me that this lone former FBI translator may possess something short of the Unified Field Theory to all Bush-Cheney scandals.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share your interest in whatever it is she’s got. But umpteen breathless Kos diaries notwithstanding, something tells me that this lone former FBI translator may possess something short of the Unified Field Theory to all Bush-Cheney scandals.</p>
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		<title>By: kspena</title>
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		<dc:creator>kspena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The secrecy and injunctions in the Edmonds saga tell us that ’something’ is there; no matter what it is, I would like to see it brought to the light of day.  If the ‘government’ can blow the cover of a NOC and Brewster-Jennings for private gain, it can blow the cover of the Edmonds accusations for public gain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The secrecy and injunctions in the Edmonds saga tell us that ’something’ is there; no matter what it is, I would like to see it brought to the light of day.  If the ‘government’ can blow the cover of a NOC and Brewster-Jennings for private gain, it can blow the cover of the Edmonds accusations for public gain.</p>
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		<title>By: stryder</title>
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		<dc:creator>stryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is Chris Floyd’s piece that Marcy linked to,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lukery also zeroes in on this telling revelation:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The Times article then notes something that I reported 18 months ago. Immediately after 911, the FBI arrested a bunch of people suspected of being involved with the attacks — including four associates of key targets of FBI’s counterintelligence operations. Sibel heard the targets tell Marc Grossman: ‘We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans.’ Grossman duly facilitated their release from jail and the suspects immediately left the country without further investigation or interrogation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Let me repeat that for emphasis: The #3 guy at the State Dept facilitated the immediate release of 9/11 suspects at the request of targets of the FBI’s investigation.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Downright fucking amazing&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Chris Floyd’s piece that Marcy linked to,</p>
<p>Lukery also zeroes in on this telling revelation:</p>
<p>“The Times article then notes something that I reported 18 months ago. Immediately after 911, the FBI arrested a bunch of people suspected of being involved with the attacks — including four associates of key targets of FBI’s counterintelligence operations. Sibel heard the targets tell Marc Grossman: ‘We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans.’ Grossman duly facilitated their release from jail and the suspects immediately left the country without further investigation or interrogation.</p>
<p>“Let me repeat that for emphasis: The #3 guy at the State Dept facilitated the immediate release of 9/11 suspects at the request of targets of the FBI’s investigation.”</p>
<p>Downright fucking amazing</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’d like to help you, but I can’t do anything except to offer encouragement. I’ve driven through Turkey from Edirne to Ararat in both directions, several times– but not for decades. The important thing to remember is that 100 years ago, Turkey was the Ottoman Empire, and one of the world’s major powers. When you’ve got that kind of history, things are going on below the surface that don’t happen in other countries. So, please sleuth on!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d like to help you, but I can’t do anything except to offer encouragement. I’ve driven through Turkey from Edirne to Ararat in both directions, several times– but not for decades. The important thing to remember is that 100 years ago, Turkey was the Ottoman Empire, and one of the world’s major powers. When you’ve got that kind of history, things are going on below the surface that don’t happen in other countries. So, please sleuth on!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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