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		<title>By: yonodeler</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/26/theyve-compartmentalized-mukasey-from-the-corruption/comment-page-1/#comment-89792</link>
		<dc:creator>yonodeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was careful not to say that honor is an attribute I would bestow upon Mukasey without his being transformed. Many in the public will embrace a public figure who repents of wrongdoing and alters his conduct; within the Bush administration, to do so would likely result in resignation or involuntary discharge. I’d like to see one high-ranking Bush administration official in the term’s remaining months be driven by compunction to take a principled, conspicuous stand against Bush’s and Cheney’s illegal conduct—part of it, anyway. I don’t have any good reason to believe that Mukasey will get his conscience born again, but no one in Washington will get a better chance. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Dean now enjoys a regard I could not have imagined during and shortly after the Watergate hearings. Any ranking officer of the Bush administration who’ll be wanting reputation rehabilitation needs to start ruminating immediately.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was careful not to say that honor is an attribute I would bestow upon Mukasey without his being transformed. Many in the public will embrace a public figure who repents of wrongdoing and alters his conduct; within the Bush administration, to do so would likely result in resignation or involuntary discharge. I’d like to see one high-ranking Bush administration official in the term’s remaining months be driven by compunction to take a principled, conspicuous stand against Bush’s and Cheney’s illegal conduct—part of it, anyway. I don’t have any good reason to believe that Mukasey will get his conscience born again, but no one in Washington will get a better chance. </p>
<p>John Dean now enjoys a regard I could not have imagined during and shortly after the Watergate hearings. Any ranking officer of the Bush administration who’ll be wanting reputation rehabilitation needs to start ruminating immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen92</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t think the worry is baseless, by any means.  Cheney’s men could be anywhere and anywhere.  And, as usual, clues are hiding in plain sight.  Courtesy of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gpoaccess.gov/plumbook/2004/p226_appendix5.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Plum Book, 2004&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The annual legislative branch appropriations act (see, for example, Public Law 108–83) and the annual transportation-treasury appropriations act (see, for example, Public Law 108–199) provide funds&lt;br /&gt;
for the Vice President to hire employees to assist him in carrying out his legislative and executive functions. Executive branch employees also may be assigned or detailed to the Vice President (see 3 U.S.C. 112) &lt;b&gt;and the Vice President may employ consultants (see 3 U.S.C. 106(a))&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;i&gt;The Office of the Vice President (OVP) consists of the aggregation of Vice Presidential employees whose salary is disbursed by the Secretary of the Senate from the Vice President’s legislative appropriation, Vice Presidential employees employed with the Vice President’s executive appropriation, employees assigned or detailed to the Vice President, &lt;b&gt;and consultants engaged by the Vice President&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The numbers, titles and salaries of OVP personnel change with some frequency. The salaries of Vice Presidential employees whose salary is disbursed by the Secretary of the Senate from the Vice President’s legislative appropriation cannot exceed a maximum specified by law (see 2 U.S.C. 60a–1). The salaries of Vice Presidential employees whose salary comes from the Vice President’s executive appropriation also cannot exceed a maximum specified by law (see 3 U.S.C. 106). The authority to appoint, administratively determine the pay of, and discharge Vice Presidential employees rests with the Vice President.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No where else do job descriptions appear for “consultants” to the Vice President.  No where in law are these “consultants” codified.  No where in legislation is provision made for paying these “consultants” to the VP.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I bet these “consultants” are probably of the ’security coordinator’ variety.  Ones that are very good in the study, use and manipulation of kneecaps.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think the worry is baseless, by any means.  Cheney’s men could be anywhere and anywhere.  And, as usual, clues are hiding in plain sight.  Courtesy of the <a href="http://www.gpoaccess.gov/plumbook/2004/p226_appendix5.pdf" rel="nofollow">Plum Book, 2004</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The annual legislative branch appropriations act (see, for example, Public Law 108–83) and the annual transportation-treasury appropriations act (see, for example, Public Law 108–199) provide funds<br />
for the Vice President to hire employees to assist him in carrying out his legislative and executive functions. Executive branch employees also may be assigned or detailed to the Vice President (see 3 U.S.C. 112) <b>and the Vice President may employ consultants (see 3 U.S.C. 106(a))</b>. <i>The Office of the Vice President (OVP) consists of the aggregation of Vice Presidential employees whose salary is disbursed by the Secretary of the Senate from the Vice President’s legislative appropriation, Vice Presidential employees employed with the Vice President’s executive appropriation, employees assigned or detailed to the Vice President, <b>and consultants engaged by the Vice President</b></i>.</p>
<p>The numbers, titles and salaries of OVP personnel change with some frequency. The salaries of Vice Presidential employees whose salary is disbursed by the Secretary of the Senate from the Vice President’s legislative appropriation cannot exceed a maximum specified by law (see 2 U.S.C. 60a–1). The salaries of Vice Presidential employees whose salary comes from the Vice President’s executive appropriation also cannot exceed a maximum specified by law (see 3 U.S.C. 106). The authority to appoint, administratively determine the pay of, and discharge Vice Presidential employees rests with the Vice President.</p>
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<p>No where else do job descriptions appear for “consultants” to the Vice President.  No where in law are these “consultants” codified.  No where in legislation is provision made for paying these “consultants” to the VP.</p>
<p>I bet these “consultants” are probably of the ’security coordinator’ variety.  Ones that are very good in the study, use and manipulation of kneecaps.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Sunstein and Obama were also at Harvard together, as well as at U of C, where Sunstein was senior to Obama.  So, yes, their relationship goes  back two decades.  Sunstein’s marriage to Samantha Powers, another de facto f.p. adviser to Obama, also at Harvard, keeps Obama’s circle tight.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That may be good for an election, where letting others know what you’re thinking, even who you’re thinking it with, is a vulnerability in the Rovian world of no-rules dirty tricks in which everybody and everything is “fair” game.  But it’s a liability in government, where most advisers are expected to step up to the plate in a packed stadium, tickets for which the public paid a high price, and take the balls and strikes as they’re thrown.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The good news is that Obama is infinitely more subtle and supple than Bush, more yoga instructor than truck driver.  With his intellect and eloquence, changing course when conditions require it ought to be routine.  The bad news is that Obama will win in a game whose rules he knows and can now take advantage of.  He’s not likely to want to change much of what needs to be exposed and reformed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree that Sunstein wants the permanent seat on the Court, not the hurly burly management and political exposure that comes with the more fragile seat of power at the DOJ.  He’s a heavy-weight intellectual, but his greatest gift seems to be as synthesizer and packager of others’ ideas, which would fit his ambitions for the Court.  But he’s to the right of even on Obama on his behavioral economics and the rights he would accord government and corporations rather than individuals and “the public”.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need a better counterbalance for the Court’s heavy conservative majority, especially since it’s the members of the liberal wing that will be the first to go.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sunstein and Obama were also at Harvard together, as well as at U of C, where Sunstein was senior to Obama.  So, yes, their relationship goes  back two decades.  Sunstein’s marriage to Samantha Powers, another de facto f.p. adviser to Obama, also at Harvard, keeps Obama’s circle tight.  </p>
<p>That may be good for an election, where letting others know what you’re thinking, even who you’re thinking it with, is a vulnerability in the Rovian world of no-rules dirty tricks in which everybody and everything is “fair” game.  But it’s a liability in government, where most advisers are expected to step up to the plate in a packed stadium, tickets for which the public paid a high price, and take the balls and strikes as they’re thrown.</p>
<p>The good news is that Obama is infinitely more subtle and supple than Bush, more yoga instructor than truck driver.  With his intellect and eloquence, changing course when conditions require it ought to be routine.  The bad news is that Obama will win in a game whose rules he knows and can now take advantage of.  He’s not likely to want to change much of what needs to be exposed and reformed.</p>
<p>I agree that Sunstein wants the permanent seat on the Court, not the hurly burly management and political exposure that comes with the more fragile seat of power at the DOJ.  He’s a heavy-weight intellectual, but his greatest gift seems to be as synthesizer and packager of others’ ideas, which would fit his ambitions for the Court.  But he’s to the right of even on Obama on his behavioral economics and the rights he would accord government and corporations rather than individuals and “the public”.  </p>
<p>We need a better counterbalance for the Court’s heavy conservative majority, especially since it’s the members of the liberal wing that will be the first to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I heard what Cass Sunstein had to say about the state of the country right now and his push for “moving on, turn the page, bad for the country to spend so much time holding the Bush administration accountable” has me worried.  I hear Obama repeat this bi-partisan theme song far too often. So which one influenced the other Sunstein to Obama or Obama to Sunstein..I don’t have the foggiest.  What I do know is that there is no way for this country to move on without holding this group of thugs accountable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unless Sunstein and Obama are perfectly fine with a country filled with zombies with their pedals to the metal and heads in the coulds.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I heard what Cass Sunstein had to say about the state of the country right now and his push for “moving on, turn the page, bad for the country to spend so much time holding the Bush administration accountable” has me worried.  I hear Obama repeat this bi-partisan theme song far too often. So which one influenced the other Sunstein to Obama or Obama to Sunstein..I don’t have the foggiest.  What I do know is that there is no way for this country to move on without holding this group of thugs accountable.</p>
<p>Unless Sunstein and Obama are perfectly fine with a country filled with zombies with their pedals to the metal and heads in the coulds.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t &lt;em&gt;think&lt;/em&gt; he is likely to be up for AG, thankfully; however, I see him as a real threat to be named to SCOTUS.  I have never particularly cared for him, he has always come down a little to much on the “law and order” side of thing in allowing oppressive and abusive governmental conduct for my tastes.  He is certainly no Alito or Scalia or anything, but he is certainly not what a progressive would want in the way of a nominee.  He has become more and more prominent in the visible Obama camp and I think the odds are very, very good that he will be Obama’s first choice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t <em>think</em> he is likely to be up for AG, thankfully; however, I see him as a real threat to be named to SCOTUS.  I have never particularly cared for him, he has always come down a little to much on the “law and order” side of thing in allowing oppressive and abusive governmental conduct for my tastes.  He is certainly no Alito or Scalia or anything, but he is certainly not what a progressive would want in the way of a nominee.  He has become more and more prominent in the visible Obama camp and I think the odds are very, very good that he will be Obama’s first choice.</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
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		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/sunstein&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is an SC nominee’s resume if I ever saw one&lt;/a&gt;. He wrote a textbook on constitutional law, for C’s sake!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/sunstein" rel="nofollow">This is an SC nominee’s resume if I ever saw one</a>. He wrote a textbook on constitutional law, for C’s sake!</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
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		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the Balkinization post Sunstein wrote that it is “more plausible” that the President can direct “cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment” short of torture. It is Geneva that prohibits the cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment. It would be logical to say that if the treatment is less cruel, the President’s authority to order it is more plausible. This does not mean it would stand up under any legal scrutiny.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cass Sunstein is not one of the foreign policy alterkockers that Obama has gathered to himself to make himself look serious. Obama has known him well from the U of C for some time and is likely to take his advice seriously even if he doesn’t follow it in the end. I will have to look up how much non-professorial experience he has before I know if we have any danger of having him as AG, in which case there would indeed be few prosecutions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Balkinization post Sunstein wrote that it is “more plausible” that the President can direct “cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment” short of torture. It is Geneva that prohibits the cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment. It would be logical to say that if the treatment is less cruel, the President’s authority to order it is more plausible. This does not mean it would stand up under any legal scrutiny.</p>
<p>Cass Sunstein is not one of the foreign policy alterkockers that Obama has gathered to himself to make himself look serious. Obama has known him well from the U of C for some time and is likely to take his advice seriously even if he doesn’t follow it in the end. I will have to look up how much non-professorial experience he has before I know if we have any danger of having him as AG, in which case there would indeed be few prosecutions.</p>
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		<title>By: MrWhy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He outs covert CIA agents w/o regard for the consequences for other covert CIA agents or the USA in general. If he’s got a hate on for you, he’s liable to do anything. Hey, he shoots friends in the face and expect them to apologize. Do you want him to notice that he has a very good reason to hate you in particular?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He outs covert CIA agents w/o regard for the consequences for other covert CIA agents or the USA in general. If he’s got a hate on for you, he’s liable to do anything. Hey, he shoots friends in the face and expect them to apologize. Do you want him to notice that he has a very good reason to hate you in particular?</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Congress was balless–that is the Democrats for the most part were balless or whatever is politically correct when you want to say that the ladies in Congress and the moron in the Senate Feinstein was ballells–you supply the female anatomy you want to correspond. They were protecting themselves and the voting record shows that on every major vote they voted with Bush and Cheney regardless of what they did or did not do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to whoever supplied the tidbit that “Obama worked for Sunstein” while a Senior Lecturer at U Chi Law.  That’s fiction.  He worked for the University of Chicago as did Sunstein until Susnstein became engaged to his girlfrfend Samantha Power and moved to Harvard Law as a result.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Congress was balless–that is the Democrats for the most part were balless or whatever is politically correct when you want to say that the ladies in Congress and the moron in the Senate Feinstein was ballells–you supply the female anatomy you want to correspond. They were protecting themselves and the voting record shows that on every major vote they voted with Bush and Cheney regardless of what they did or did not do.</p>
<p>And to whoever supplied the tidbit that “Obama worked for Sunstein” while a Senior Lecturer at U Chi Law.  That’s fiction.  He worked for the University of Chicago as did Sunstein until Susnstein became engaged to his girlfrfend Samantha Power and moved to Harvard Law as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: LabDancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LabDancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Big O is a exceptionally quick study. It did not take him long to realize that every minute he served in the Senate reduced his chances of achieving regency. There are a lot of corrosive factors to those who serve in Congress: corruption obviously- less obviously simply falling preyed to being co-opted like survivors Pelosi &amp; Hoyer- or becoming getting marginalized like Leahy &amp; Dodd. As he keeps saying: Now is the time- &amp; of course not just for “us”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Big O is a exceptionally quick study. It did not take him long to realize that every minute he served in the Senate reduced his chances of achieving regency. There are a lot of corrosive factors to those who serve in Congress: corruption obviously- less obviously simply falling preyed to being co-opted like survivors Pelosi &amp; Hoyer- or becoming getting marginalized like Leahy &amp; Dodd. As he keeps saying: Now is the time- &amp; of course not just for “us”.</p>
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