Relatively OnTopic, I tend to agree with lhp’s USPSOpensLettersAddressedToYou procedural remarks, having studied some of the regs in a training program once. The trainer had a sly remark, however toward the peroration of the course, an advisory that while employees of many responsible posts are career civil service, nevertheless the leadership job is a patronage post; which is partly why I suggested a USPS IG venue outside of AL as one way to see through the implausibles in the Siegelman emails of-real-authorship or of-manufacture research.

At this level of coordination in Florida, Alabama and Ohio the discipline of street corner meetings and deniability are lesson one. It becomes increasingly clear in the effects at the level of gaming the system that is in play. Its really a scope of operation beyond what happened with Plame which originated with the VP. The Siegelman matter shows the nature of the on the ground organization, driven by data and rumor and with Rove as the puppet master whispering the agenda. Remember W’s cynical jabs at Rove in 2006 after the Dem’s took the house.

The thing that strikes me is the fungibility of the tacit corruption. In other words Rove didn’t have to work at explaining to others how the game was played.

The emails really in of themselves without some kind of credible sourcing prove nothing. But the massive destruction of the record of political operations run from the White House in and of itself merits sanction. Much at this point depends on speculative inference and here the fire wall of executive control against zealous prosecution will not get away from the administration. The pressing of the inquiry for the sake of history is meritorious in and of itself and the emergence of detail in the light of inquiry is heartening in understanding.

The 200,000 that turned out in Berlin for Obama are the same 200,000 that rallied against the war in March 2003 in a gesture of globalized hope. The embers are not dead. The game is not up yet.

Take that and apply what you learn to the ‘real’ plan. How do you do it? What cover do you provide? What laws are involved? How do you avoid being discovered or charged with a crime? How would you weasel out in court?

I suggest this because I know of just such a thing and have followed the discussion of it over several years. It’s still unresolved today with several court cases, at least one federal, pending.

The primary similarity to the election fraud and WH political e-mails and the Siegelman case is who owns the servers and how e-mails are disappeared.

Anybody who steps into this as a prosecutor or investigator should beware — it isn’t going to be easy to prove anything — if these are real pros.

It’s a violation of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure as well as ethics.

Judge Fuller came into this trial hard wired with prejudicial information–the architects of his getting on the bench with no federal litigation experience from the 12th district bench in Alabama were Republican political machine hacks in Alabama.

Scott Horton has done a lot of digging and posting as to a number of substantive reasons why Fuller should have recused himself, and not been on the bench in the first place.

All of the above, plus, after my re-election, I was intending to hold the Bush Administration accountable for its policy in Iraq, as well as its failed economic and education policies. Having been a former Secretary of State, Attorney General, Lt. Gov, and Governor, I was planning on using my contacts in key electoral states to hammer this Administration on its failed policies.

My indictment came on the day I was leaving on my first fundraising effort, flying to New York to meet President Clinton to raise money for Democrats running for Governor.

reminded me of reports that Eliot Spitzer had planned to announce an investigation of investment banks (or some sort of Bush friendly business)in New York. Unfortunately for us, Bush cronies leaked Client-9’s name and his use of an escort service before Spitzer caused any waves.

I guess the other similarity is that both Siegelman and Spitzer were democratic governors. (and Gov. Gray Davis of California). And the attempt on removing Pres. Clinton.

Republicans like to undo elections.

http://www.harpers.org/archive…..c-90003311

As a means of communicating to orchestrate illegal jury tampering, mail delivery seems unhelpful because too slow, too easily intercepted. But then, e-mail seems a profoundly ignorant way to orchestrate illegal activity, too, because of the traces it leaves.

Using postal inspectors is an interesting dodge for a USA who was told by the court not to investigate. It’s like Rove saying he didn’t urge the DOJ to do XX — when in fact he demanded the SS, part of the Treasury, or the Postal Service to do it. (The kind of dodge that allows you seemingly to deny what you’ve in fact done.) In reverse engineering what may have gone wrong, it’s not the first place one would look. Always useful when a major strategy is to run out the statute of limitations.

This aspect of the l’Affaire Siegelman seems as incompetently run as the rest of the Bush Justice Department. Incompetent, that is, from the perspective of administering justice. When viewed from the perspective of hiding what’s done, it’s reasonably competent.

Political accountability? Miss Nancy, via decisions like appointing Porter Goss to oversee a House ethics panel, seems to have taken that off the table along with impeachment. Because it’s something she’s determined to deny the GOP from using against Democrats, the next party to give itself a permanent majority?

I think if the emails are real, and since the prosecutors were in the middle of a politicized prosecution, then the prosecutors are being internally consistent:

that the investigation of communicating jurors would screw up the show trial, and that a top priority would be to identify the mailer to Siegelman’s defense team of those hard copies of the jurors’ email.