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	<title>Comments on: A Timeline of Lamar Smith&#8217;s Pathetic Attempt to Save Karl Rove</title>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/23/a-timeline-of-lamar-smiths-pathetic-attempt-to-save-karl-rove/comment-page-1/#comment-89121</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ll second that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ll second that.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He was in Sweden and Yalta the week of the subpoena but was back the following week appearing on Fox, talking to the Television Critics Association and having lunch with Bush.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was in Sweden and Yalta the week of the subpoena but was back the following week appearing on Fox, talking to the Television Critics Association and having lunch with Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought Rove was on his way to Yalta. Didn’t he go? Is he back already? Has he answered questions from afar? Did his lawyer answer for him?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What gives?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Rove was on his way to Yalta. Didn’t he go? Is he back already? Has he answered questions from afar? Did his lawyer answer for him?</p>
<p>What gives?</p>
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		<title>By: JLML</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You mean like all the courageous people in Ohio who stood hours in the rain to vote for John Kerry?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean like all the courageous people in Ohio who stood hours in the rain to vote for John Kerry?</p>
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		<title>By: wwiii</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/23/a-timeline-of-lamar-smiths-pathetic-attempt-to-save-karl-rove/comment-page-1/#comment-89030</link>
		<dc:creator>wwiii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am so tired of listening to these people and their equivocations.  Will testify but not under oath.  Will testify but not with a transcript.  Will testify but not publicly.  Will testify but only to my friends.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All these big, tough corporate types.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Bolton, Addington–they are all really good at making their own reality and f***ing those who cross them and taking risks with other people’s lives and money and future.  But, boy, when their own pasty, wrinkled backsides are on the line, they make jellyfish look like vertebrates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which of course leaves me wondering how much further down the invertebrate scale one needs to go to locate Congressional Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so tired of listening to these people and their equivocations.  Will testify but not under oath.  Will testify but not with a transcript.  Will testify but not publicly.  Will testify but only to my friends.  </p>
<p>All these big, tough corporate types.</p>
<p>Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Bolton, Addington–they are all really good at making their own reality and f***ing those who cross them and taking risks with other people’s lives and money and future.  But, boy, when their own pasty, wrinkled backsides are on the line, they make jellyfish look like vertebrates.</p>
<p>Which of course leaves me wondering how much further down the invertebrate scale one needs to go to locate Congressional Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen92</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was a question from Wexler about whether Rove needed to appear for the subpoena or not.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a question from Wexler about whether Rove needed to appear for the subpoena or not.</p>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At one point in Mukasey’s testimony (looking like a pissed-off garden gnome) he answered “in the abstract, no” when asked if something qualified for executive privilege.  CSPAN doesn’t have the hearing up yet.  Anybody remember the question?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one point in Mukasey’s testimony (looking like a pissed-off garden gnome) he answered “in the abstract, no” when asked if something qualified for executive privilege.  CSPAN doesn’t have the hearing up yet.  Anybody remember the question?</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’ll withhold my judgment on that until Cass Sunstein pronounces that Karl has answered the questions.
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&lt;p&gt;I think that IS part of Karl’s intended audience.  The flying monkey have to turn it into COnventional Wisdom, so Obama can consign it into the “witch hunt” catagory&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ll withhold my judgment on that until Cass Sunstein pronounces that Karl has answered the questions.
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<p>I think that IS part of Karl’s intended audience.  The flying monkey have to turn it into COnventional Wisdom, so Obama can consign it into the “witch hunt” catagory</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen92</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hear hear!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Congressional Record is an official publication, but doesn’t necessarily tabulate things that really happened.  Rove’s contrived Q&amp;A’s appearing in that publication carry the same weight then if they were written on the bathroom wall.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember back in 2006 when Rep. Sens. Linsday Graham and John Kyl were caught “having a debate” on Gitmo appear in the Congressional Record — a debate that never actually happened because it was a “colloguy?”  It never happened because someone wrote it up, pauses and all, to make it seem a debate had occured when it hadnt…?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;to the official Congressional Record of Dec. 21, 2005, Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) held a long conversation on the Senate floor about an amendment bearing Graham’s name that restricts the legal rights of detainees in the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I agree entirely,” Graham responds to Kyl at one point. “I have just been handed a memorandum on this subject,” Kyl says later. Another Republican senator, Sam Brownback of Kansas, interrupts the two with his own commentary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But those exchanges never occurred. Instead, the debate — which runs 15 pages and brims with conversational flourishes — was inserted into the Congressional Record minutes before the Senate gave final approval to the legislation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/28/AR2006032801685.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01685.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Same deal here.  Just because the questions/answers appear in a government record doesn’t mean they’re real, or true, or more legitimate than heresay.  Just Rove’s usual MO at work here to make something seem real.  When it ain’t.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear!</p>
<p>The Congressional Record is an official publication, but doesn’t necessarily tabulate things that really happened.  Rove’s contrived Q&amp;A’s appearing in that publication carry the same weight then if they were written on the bathroom wall.</p>
<p>Remember back in 2006 when Rep. Sens. Linsday Graham and John Kyl were caught “having a debate” on Gitmo appear in the Congressional Record — a debate that never actually happened because it was a “colloguy?”  It never happened because someone wrote it up, pauses and all, to make it seem a debate had occured when it hadnt…?</p>
<blockquote><p>to the official Congressional Record of Dec. 21, 2005, Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) held a long conversation on the Senate floor about an amendment bearing Graham’s name that restricts the legal rights of detainees in the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.</p>
<p>“I agree entirely,” Graham responds to Kyl at one point. “I have just been handed a memorandum on this subject,” Kyl says later. Another Republican senator, Sam Brownback of Kansas, interrupts the two with his own commentary.</p>
<p>But those exchanges never occurred. Instead, the debate — which runs 15 pages and brims with conversational flourishes — was inserted into the Congressional Record minutes before the Senate gave final approval to the legislation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/28/AR2006032801685.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..01685.html</a></p>
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<p>Same deal here.  Just because the questions/answers appear in a government record doesn’t mean they’re real, or true, or more legitimate than heresay.  Just Rove’s usual MO at work here to make something seem real.  When it ain’t.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heh heh, you are probably right; but I’ll be honest, that I so hated responding to stinking interrogatories that I would have not even bothered cutting and pasting.  In the subsequent ones I would simply say “See answer to Question 1 above”.  I am not the right guy to ask; other than sending out the standard local pattern interrogs, I just noticed up people for depos.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh heh, you are probably right; but I’ll be honest, that I so hated responding to stinking interrogatories that I would have not even bothered cutting and pasting.  In the subsequent ones I would simply say “See answer to Question 1 above”.  I am not the right guy to ask; other than sending out the standard local pattern interrogs, I just noticed up people for depos.</p>
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