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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Library&#8221; Rhymes with &#8220;Bribery,&#8221; Ted Stevens Edition</title>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/16/library-rhymes-with-bribery-ted-stevens-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-87520</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow.  No clue… but they’d have to file with IRS wouldn’t they?&lt;br /&gt;
Patents are generally kept in Engineering Libraries (or collections), at least in my experience.  There are a few around the country.&lt;br /&gt;
You can also research online at the federal patent website.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you want more help tracking down the company, you might want to contact a research librarian at an academic Business library — assuming they take questions from the public.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  No clue… but they’d have to file with IRS wouldn’t they?<br />
Patents are generally kept in Engineering Libraries (or collections), at least in my experience.  There are a few around the country.<br />
You can also research online at the federal patent website.</p>
<p>If you want more help tracking down the company, you might want to contact a research librarian at an academic Business library — assuming they take questions from the public.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unbefuckinglievable.&lt;br /&gt;
You have got to be kidding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, Jeebuz…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbefuckinglievable.<br />
You have got to be kidding.</p>
<p>Oh, Jeebuz…</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;though, not ’thought’&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though, not ’thought’</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really want to push people back to read what earlofhuntingdon @ 11 has to say about Presidential Libraries.  We are really in grave need of a comprehensive legislative approach to this — and yes, in order to have a realistic chance of passage, perhaps it is wise to wait for the next administration — note that they didn’t get too far trying to give the Presidential Records people at the Archives any role in determining whether electronic systems in the WH were properly archiving E-mail and documents…  But all of this needs to be of a piece.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Taxpayers always pay for the Archives part of a Presidential Library.  That’s where they store everything in secure, climate controlled conditions, and where reading rooms are provided for Historians, scholars and the like.  Legislation is needed to make clear exactly what these basics are that have public support, and we also need legislative clarification of ownership aspects of the Presidential Records Act — passed after Nixon tried to take his tapes home with him to California — and put it beyond executive orders when papers are opened, and how the powers of declassification actually are to work.  Clinton  made it 12 years which is very reasonable, But Bush came along and has tried to give presidential families near century long control — in a sense revising everything that was litigated with regard to Nixon’s papers, and which he lost at all stages.  It is simply time for Congress to adopt and put into statutes clear rules that cannot be changed administration to administration, and I would add — a statute that is Historian Friendly.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What President’s raise money for is not really their library — it is their museum.  Taxpayers don’t support these.  Likewise, Taxpayers normally don’t support other things that are done in the Museum — some are very valuable, as for instance, the Kennedy Library is attached to the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, a certain number of Fellows and Faculty are supported by an endowment, and the School does Conferences, publications, supports research and the like.  Example, something like the three way conference series about the Cuban Missle Crisis that the Kennedy center organized — first in Cuba with their archives and surviving players, then in Moscow with again archives, surviving players, and an audience of International Historians, and finally in Cambridge, with a major release from the National Archives and again a gaggle of Historians, some surviving players (not many left now), and about a week of scholarly debate directed toward synthesis of all the materials, resulting in at least a dozen major publications.  Since Cuban Missle Crisis was about as close as we got to Armageddon in the Cold War — this about six or seven year process was profoundly valuable, and it is hardly just “all about Kennedy.”  It is, in my mind, what the programatic/museum side of a Presidential Library ought to be about.  What Congress needs to deal with is creating rules for these associated museums (which they can do as they share some administrative services, space, and above all, donations are to a non-profit foundation that serves as an endowment for the museum.)  Congress needs to draw a line between a “Shrine” and a Museum with a public historical program tied to events and themes in a particular presidency.  I suspect if they put their minds to it Congress could write such a statute — and that would be respectful of both Citizens who want to comprehend a presidency and its era, and Scholars and Historians who want to research a presidency and its era.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So please call attention to this NEED, and at the same time argue that the corruptions of recent years need to be ripped out of this collection of institutions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to push people back to read what earlofhuntingdon @ 11 has to say about Presidential Libraries.  We are really in grave need of a comprehensive legislative approach to this — and yes, in order to have a realistic chance of passage, perhaps it is wise to wait for the next administration — note that they didn’t get too far trying to give the Presidential Records people at the Archives any role in determining whether electronic systems in the WH were properly archiving E-mail and documents…  But all of this needs to be of a piece.</p>
<p>Taxpayers always pay for the Archives part of a Presidential Library.  That’s where they store everything in secure, climate controlled conditions, and where reading rooms are provided for Historians, scholars and the like.  Legislation is needed to make clear exactly what these basics are that have public support, and we also need legislative clarification of ownership aspects of the Presidential Records Act — passed after Nixon tried to take his tapes home with him to California — and put it beyond executive orders when papers are opened, and how the powers of declassification actually are to work.  Clinton  made it 12 years which is very reasonable, But Bush came along and has tried to give presidential families near century long control — in a sense revising everything that was litigated with regard to Nixon’s papers, and which he lost at all stages.  It is simply time for Congress to adopt and put into statutes clear rules that cannot be changed administration to administration, and I would add — a statute that is Historian Friendly.  </p>
<p>What President’s raise money for is not really their library — it is their museum.  Taxpayers don’t support these.  Likewise, Taxpayers normally don’t support other things that are done in the Museum — some are very valuable, as for instance, the Kennedy Library is attached to the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, a certain number of Fellows and Faculty are supported by an endowment, and the School does Conferences, publications, supports research and the like.  Example, something like the three way conference series about the Cuban Missle Crisis that the Kennedy center organized — first in Cuba with their archives and surviving players, then in Moscow with again archives, surviving players, and an audience of International Historians, and finally in Cambridge, with a major release from the National Archives and again a gaggle of Historians, some surviving players (not many left now), and about a week of scholarly debate directed toward synthesis of all the materials, resulting in at least a dozen major publications.  Since Cuban Missle Crisis was about as close as we got to Armageddon in the Cold War — this about six or seven year process was profoundly valuable, and it is hardly just “all about Kennedy.”  It is, in my mind, what the programatic/museum side of a Presidential Library ought to be about.  What Congress needs to deal with is creating rules for these associated museums (which they can do as they share some administrative services, space, and above all, donations are to a non-profit foundation that serves as an endowment for the museum.)  Congress needs to draw a line between a “Shrine” and a Museum with a public historical program tied to events and themes in a particular presidency.  I suspect if they put their minds to it Congress could write such a statute — and that would be respectful of both Citizens who want to comprehend a presidency and its era, and Scholars and Historians who want to research a presidency and its era.  </p>
<p>So please call attention to this NEED, and at the same time argue that the corruptions of recent years need to be ripped out of this collection of institutions.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;my first link at 41—got it, is just the same notification of patent use/license that i got from the nasa release.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thought it did say that phoenix systems international is in pine brooke, nj…….but it doesn’t exist anywhere else.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my first link at 41—got it, is just the same notification of patent use/license that i got from the nasa release.</p>
<p>thought it did say that phoenix systems international is in pine brooke, nj…….but it doesn’t exist anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/16/library-rhymes-with-bribery-ted-stevens-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-87321</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;below is from the ew payne thread other day–i am perplexed by this, –i still can only find one thing on phoenix systems international inc. who supposedly developed the technology with nasa…and i can’t ’read’ it-says i need the new flash player, but just did that the other day–can someone pull it up for me and tell me what it says?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scribd.com/doc/2857874/Notice-Meetings-Phoenix-Systems-International-Inc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.scribd.com/doc/2857.....tional-Inc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…only other mention of the company is on the patent release from nasa…….and on the site of the advanced clean air technologies company where stephen payne is president, the company with exclusive rights to market the patent…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think it’s very strange that a company who holds and ’co-developed’ a nasa patent isn’t anywhere to be found…….if you ’co-developed’ a clean coal technology, seems you’d have to have a lab/building somewhere, or at the very least, funding if that’s how you ’co-developed’……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;nothing anywhere, this is strange.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;===&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and in the same thread, william ockham posted at 61 that world wide strategies-payne’s lobbying outfit had a date with the court for backruptcy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/does-ray-hunt-do-this-kind-of-fund-raising-too/#comment-86513&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://emptywheel.firedoglake......ment-86513&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;guess ol’ stephen’s havin’ a bad month.&lt;br /&gt;
i wish i could find something on phoenix systems international inc..is buggin’ me…until i do, it smells to high heaven……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;      ============= mine   from above link                      &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;found some more interesting things about stephen payne—&lt;br /&gt;
 from info on his dhs advisory committee page–somehow they got a nasa patent for private use.&lt;br /&gt;
 -snip-&lt;br /&gt;
   He currently serves as President of Advanced Clean Air Technologies which holds an exclusive patent license from NASA for one-of-a-kind breakthrough technology that removes NO2, SO2, and Mercury from coal powerplants.&lt;br /&gt;
 -snip-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://advancedcleanairtechnol…..story.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://advancedcleanairtechnol…..story.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 almost same photo as the one on world wide strategies website–handshake…..&lt;br /&gt;
 -snip-&lt;br /&gt;
 Advanced Clean Air Technologies (ACAT) has the exclusive rights to market the Phoenix-NASA ”Mercury Emission Control System”, a multi-pollutant emission control technology.&lt;br /&gt;
 -snip-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://advancedcleanairtechnologies.net/home.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://advancedcleanairtechnologies.net/home.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 This low temperature oxidation process developed jointly by NASA at Kennedy Space Center and Phoenix Systems International, Inc. (PSII) meets and even surpasses regulations of the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>below is from the ew payne thread other day–i am perplexed by this, –i still can only find one thing on phoenix systems international inc. who supposedly developed the technology with nasa…and i can’t ’read’ it-says i need the new flash player, but just did that the other day–can someone pull it up for me and tell me what it says?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/2857874/Notice-Meetings-Phoenix-Systems-International-Inc" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/2857&#8230;..tional-Inc</a></p>
<p>…only other mention of the company is on the patent release from nasa…….and on the site of the advanced clean air technologies company where stephen payne is president, the company with exclusive rights to market the patent…..</p>
<p>i think it’s very strange that a company who holds and ’co-developed’ a nasa patent isn’t anywhere to be found…….if you ’co-developed’ a clean coal technology, seems you’d have to have a lab/building somewhere, or at the very least, funding if that’s how you ’co-developed’……</p>
<p>nothing anywhere, this is strange.</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>and in the same thread, william ockham posted at 61 that world wide strategies-payne’s lobbying outfit had a date with the court for backruptcy.<br /><a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/does-ray-hunt-do-this-kind-of-fund-raising-too/#comment-86513" rel="nofollow">http://emptywheel.firedoglake&#8230;&#8230;ment-86513</a></p>
<p>guess ol’ stephen’s havin’ a bad month.<br />
i wish i could find something on phoenix systems international inc..is buggin’ me…until i do, it smells to high heaven……</p>
<p>      ============= mine   from above link                      </p>
<p>found some more interesting things about stephen payne—<br />
 from info on his dhs advisory committee page–somehow they got a nasa patent for private use.<br />
 -snip-<br />
   He currently serves as President of Advanced Clean Air Technologies which holds an exclusive patent license from NASA for one-of-a-kind breakthrough technology that removes NO2, SO2, and Mercury from coal powerplants.<br />
 -snip-</p>
<p><a href="http://advancedcleanairtechnol…..story.html" rel="nofollow">http://advancedcleanairtechnol…..story.html</a><br />
 almost same photo as the one on world wide strategies website–handshake…..<br />
 -snip-<br />
 Advanced Clean Air Technologies (ACAT) has the exclusive rights to market the Phoenix-NASA ”Mercury Emission Control System”, a multi-pollutant emission control technology.<br />
 -snip-</p>
<p><a href="http://advancedcleanairtechnologies.net/home.html" rel="nofollow">http://advancedcleanairtechnologies.net/home.html</a><br />
 This low temperature oxidation process developed jointly by NASA at Kennedy Space Center and Phoenix Systems International, Inc. (PSII) meets and even surpasses regulations of the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course no-nads Harry Reid will honor Toobz’ hold.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course no-nads Harry Reid will honor Toobz’ hold.</p>
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		<title>By: JTMinIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTMinIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He’s got the temper thing down.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;McBush wants to be the Bobby Knight of war—”best major college record in all of war- sure I’m tough on my guys- but they respond to it”!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McBush wants to be the Bobby Knight of war—”best major college record in all of war- sure I’m tough on my guys- but they respond to it”!</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WaPo on new poll says that Obama has lead but questions about his ability to fight wars keeps the race competitive….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Uh- sorry- but eight points is NOT competitive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course these early polls don’t matter, but it’s amazing how far these newspapers will go to make it seem that the race is a tie.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WaPo on new poll says that Obama has lead but questions about his ability to fight wars keeps the race competitive….</p>
<p>Uh- sorry- but eight points is NOT competitive.</p>
<p>Of course these early polls don’t matter, but it’s amazing how far these newspapers will go to make it seem that the race is a tie.</p>
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