Comments on: Five Years Later–and the Attorney General Still Maintains the Cover-Up http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:07:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86730 emptywheel Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:09:32 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86730 <p>Been thinking about the way to track it. I think we need a betting pool–that’s for sure.</p> Been thinking about the way to track it. I think we need a betting pool–that’s for sure.

]]> By: pdaly http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86704 pdaly Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:30:29 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86704 <p>and I forgot to add, the MMNR site has Rayne’s helpful list of acronyms.</p> and I forgot to add, the MMNR site has Rayne’s helpful list of acronyms.

]]> By: pdaly http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86703 pdaly Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:26:56 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86703 <p>Five years already?</p> <p>Time certainly flies by even when we’re (not) having fun with the Bush Administration in the WH. Well, actually it is fun to learn the truth about them by reading here and at FDL. Here’s to more of the same.</p> <p>BTW, for a look back at where we’ve been, here is a link to <a href="http://mmnetroots.com/libbylinks.html" rel="nofollow">MultiMediaNetRoots</a> (h/t to MultiMediaNetRoots)–it’s an archive of the Libby trial blogging.<br /> (MMNE, I assume you are reading here regularly. Do you go by another name, too?)</p> <p>There you can find an organized collection of posts from all your favorite bloggers including emptywheel, jane, christy, swopa, pachacutec, with their posts of the trial in chronological order of trial, pretrial articles by the same and by looseheadprop, as well as all the vlog podcasts done at the end of each court day (and just before “beerthirty”). </p> <p>eRiposte’s series of ‘uranium from Africa’ articles are here, too.</p> <p>Miscellaneous links also take you to the Wilson’s defense fund, Joe Wilson’s “What I Did’t Find In Africa” op-ed, numerous articles by Froomkin, pretrial Libby postings at FDL 2/2005-10/2005 collated by Christy, and several links to various timelines*. </p> <p>*note: I didn’t spot emptywheel’s Libby timeline there. This may be an egregious oversight, but then again I made only a quick pass through the listings.<br /> There is an email address at the bottom of the website if we need to request any links be added.</p> Five years already?

Time certainly flies by even when we’re (not) having fun with the Bush Administration in the WH. Well, actually it is fun to learn the truth about them by reading here and at FDL. Here’s to more of the same.

BTW, for a look back at where we’ve been, here is a link to MultiMediaNetRoots (h/t to MultiMediaNetRoots)–it’s an archive of the Libby trial blogging.
(MMNE, I assume you are reading here regularly. Do you go by another name, too?)

There you can find an organized collection of posts from all your favorite bloggers including emptywheel, jane, christy, swopa, pachacutec, with their posts of the trial in chronological order of trial, pretrial articles by the same and by looseheadprop, as well as all the vlog podcasts done at the end of each court day (and just before “beerthirty”).

eRiposte’s series of ‘uranium from Africa’ articles are here, too.

Miscellaneous links also take you to the Wilson’s defense fund, Joe Wilson’s “What I Did’t Find In Africa” op-ed, numerous articles by Froomkin, pretrial Libby postings at FDL 2/2005-10/2005 collated by Christy, and several links to various timelines*.

*note: I didn’t spot emptywheel’s Libby timeline there. This may be an egregious oversight, but then again I made only a quick pass through the listings.
There is an email address at the bottom of the website if we need to request any links be added.

]]> By: JamesJoyce http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86677 JamesJoyce Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:58:19 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86677 <p>dam depressing Leen……</p> dam depressing Leen……

]]> By: rdwdkw http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86675 rdwdkw Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:55:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86675 <p>Marci, maybe you could make us a “pardon” board kinda like a big ten board to see how many pardon’s are handed out before Barack takes over. Maybe?</p> Marci, maybe you could make us a “pardon” board kinda like a big ten board to see how many pardon’s are handed out before Barack takes over. Maybe?

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86674 bmaz Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:42:49 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86674 <p>Agreed on all those counts.</p> Agreed on all those counts.

]]> By: skdadl http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86670 skdadl Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:34:14 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86670 <p>No, I am thinking more than that. I recognize that there was a shell-game with the TSP, and when Gonzales kept saying “other intelligence activities,” that may have been the one time he wasn’t lying.</p> <p>But I am thinking that the question Specter failed to ask Comey was about torture. Maybe last year was too early for the senators to think about that, focused as they were on Gonzales, but obviously Goldsmith and Comey were coping with a lot more than surveillance, and Goldsmith seems to have left early for that reason.</p> No, I am thinking more than that. I recognize that there was a shell-game with the TSP, and when Gonzales kept saying “other intelligence activities,” that may have been the one time he wasn’t lying.

But I am thinking that the question Specter failed to ask Comey was about torture. Maybe last year was too early for the senators to think about that, focused as they were on Gonzales, but obviously Goldsmith and Comey were coping with a lot more than surveillance, and Goldsmith seems to have left early for that reason.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86668 bmaz Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:23:32 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86668 <p>Heh, okay, I can agree with that completely. And I will fully admit that Bugliosi gives me a rash. I have watched him over the years, known friends and enemies, and been introduced and around him socially a couple of times. He is an engaging and fun guy in a lot of respects; but totally full of both himself and dung. And I don’t deny him his gig at all, but the truth is that he is a hell of a lot closer to Dominic Dunne at this point than he is Pat Fitzgerald. Actually Dunne may write more legally credible stuff than Bugliosi; I am not a fan of Dunne in the least.</p> Heh, okay, I can agree with that completely. And I will fully admit that Bugliosi gives me a rash. I have watched him over the years, known friends and enemies, and been introduced and around him socially a couple of times. He is an engaging and fun guy in a lot of respects; but totally full of both himself and dung. And I don’t deny him his gig at all, but the truth is that he is a hell of a lot closer to Dominic Dunne at this point than he is Pat Fitzgerald. Actually Dunne may write more legally credible stuff than Bugliosi; I am not a fan of Dunne in the least.

]]> By: earlofhuntingdon http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86667 earlofhuntingdon Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:22:46 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86667 <p>You’re right. There’s isn’t such gentlewomanly restraint when it comes to the foibles of Democrats and their shrill neocon critics. They get front-page treatment. </p> <p>As Glenzilla often points out, critics on the left are all shrill, fantasy-driven idealists. Those on the right are knowledgeable realists. No matter how many death threats their “religious” zealots advocate, how many little brown people their radio pundits would relegate to the bottom of the ocean, no matter how vapidly they praise their authoritarian leaders. They are all respectable centrists and their views are worthy of our deepest consideration. If that’s media with a “liberal bias”, Rush Limbaugh is an understated, thoughtful, celibate academic.</p> You’re right. There’s isn’t such gentlewomanly restraint when it comes to the foibles of Democrats and their shrill neocon critics. They get front-page treatment.

As Glenzilla often points out, critics on the left are all shrill, fantasy-driven idealists. Those on the right are knowledgeable realists. No matter how many death threats their “religious” zealots advocate, how many little brown people their radio pundits would relegate to the bottom of the ocean, no matter how vapidly they praise their authoritarian leaders. They are all respectable centrists and their views are worthy of our deepest consideration. If that’s media with a “liberal bias”, Rush Limbaugh is an understated, thoughtful, celibate academic.

]]> By: RevBev http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/comment-page-2/#comment-86665 RevBev Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:11:18 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/14/five-years-later-and-the-attorney-general-still-maintains-the-cover-up/#comment-86665 <p>Thanks. My point; sweep it under the rug. Even if he’s “nuts”, and I do not know, he makes an interesting point. If I had had a son/spouse in this lousy, shameful war, I would be glad to the the Complainant. If the book is selling well, per claim, all that is news. Me thinks they don’t like the message.</p> Thanks. My point; sweep it under the rug. Even if he’s “nuts”, and I do not know, he makes an interesting point. If I had had a son/spouse in this lousy, shameful war, I would be glad to the the Complainant. If the book is selling well, per claim, all that is news. Me thinks they don’t like the message.

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