Five years ago today, on a Monday morning just like today, this happened:
Our bedroom was just beginning to show the first hints of morning light on July 14 when Joe marched in, dropped the newspaper on the bed, and said in a tight voice, "Well, the SOB did it." He set a steaming mug of coffee on my bedside table and left the room. What? I struggled to wake up. I sat up, switched on the lamp, and opened the Washington Post to the op-ed page; I didn't know what I would find, but I knew it wouldn't be good. Rovert Novak had written in his column that "Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction."
And yet, five years later, through the President's efforts to silence Scooter Libby and through the Attorney General's determination to hide the Vice President's and President's own testimony, we still have had no full accounting of the leak of Valerie Wilson's identity. In fact, most of the press attention has been focused on the following sentence in Novak's column, the one that--Richard Armitage apparently convinced Patrick Fitzgerald--derived from a stupid and careless but ultimately ignorant leak.
Two senior administration officials told me that Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report.
And so, largely because once an investigation was announced, Novak told a different story about that first line--about how he learned of Valerie's maiden name and about how he learned of her status--than he told just after the leak, when he said "They thought it was significant, they gave me the name and I used it," the press just bought that implausible, revised story. Novak's new cover story got so far-fetched that he was comparing Valerie Wilson with a person running a congressional campaign in Wyoming.
I call all kinds of politicians operatives. … Someone’s running a congressional campaign in Wyoming, I call him an operative.
And even when it was revealed that there had been a third conversation that went into Novak's column, a conversation between Libby and Novak, a conversation they both made efforts to hide for three years, almost no one went back to scrutinize Novak's column and sources again. Not even when it was revealed that, just two days before he spoke with Novak, Libby had told precisely those two details that remain unexplained in Novak's column--the name "Plame" and her status as an Agency operative on WMD--to Ari Fleischer. Libby provided those details to someone who could be expected to leak them on July 7 (and remember, Novak called Ari on July 7); is there any reason to imagine that Libby didn't provide those details on July 9, when he met with Novak?
Let me take a detour into Novak's column to demonstrate why I believe it very likely that Libby knowingly leaked classified information to Novak on July 9 (a detour I make at more length here). There is another passage in Novak's column that was--even according to Scooter Libby's operative story--still classified on July 9, when he spoke with Novak.
After eight days in the Niger capital of Niamey (where he once served), Wilson made an oral report in Langley that an Iraqi uranium purchase was "highly unlikely," though he also mentioned in passing that a 1988 Iraqi delegation tried to establish commercial contacts.
Novak either screws up the date accidentally or intentionally, but this detail is unmistakably the Ibrahim Mayaki story from the CIA report on Wilson's trip, which was declassified (again, according to Libby's operative story) on July 10. There's a lot redacted in the affidavits which might include more detail, but we know that Novak testified that Rove said he was working on declassifying the memo--which, Rove said, was "not very definitive."
According to Novak, when he “brought up” Wilson’s wife, “Mr. Rove said, oh, you know about that too” (II-154) and promised to seek declassification of portions of a CIA report regarding the Niger trip, which Rove said “wasn’t an impressive piece of work or a very definitive piece of work” (II-158).
That sentence from Rove surely is the source of this sentence from Novak's column.
The agency never before has declassified that kind of information, but the White House would like it to do just that now -- in its and the public's interest.
Rove also told Matt Cooper the report would be declassified, without then giving him details from the report, so even though Rove is a liar, it is quite likely that's all he told Novak--that the report was unclear and that it would be declassified.
But the classified part--the Mayaki story--either remains unexplained or, in redacted bits, Novak blamed on Armitage. Now, Armitage could have leaked this detail from the CIA trip report. He got a copy of the report as an attachment to the INR memo on July 7. Except that both Armitage and Novak describe their conversation about the Wilson trip as a few off-hand comments at the end of long conversation on other topics. Furthermore, we know that Armitage didn't mention the CIA trip report when he leaked to Woodward in June. Armitage wasn't obsessed by the Mayaki story; Armitage was obsessed that a man like Joe Wilson would get shuttled around on intelligence trips by his hot blonde wife.
Scooter Libby, however, was obsessed by the Mayaki story. He and his boss--both of them--had underlined the passages of reports that detailed the Mayaki story on at least two separate occasions, on two separate copies of the report each (and it appears that Libby had a conversation with John Hannah about it too). According to Judy Miller, Libby had leaked her the information from the trip, just the day before Libby spoke with Novak.
He then referred to another report I thought it was a third report. He said this was involved the arrival in Niger of a delegation of Iraqi officials in 1999. And that this Iraqi delegation was seeking a broader trade relationship with Niger. Since Niger basically had only one thing to export, which was uranium, that officials in Niger had concluded that Iraq was interested in acquiring uranium. He said that the author of the report, which had gone up to the Hill, which was credited by the CIA, was Joe Wilson.
And when Cheney dictated talking points to Libby on July 12, he asked him to describe the Mayaki conversation on deep background (though, by the time Cheney dictated these talking points, the report had been declassified).
In short, given that Libby is a proven liar and Novak's story changes constantly, there's no reason to believe Novak and Libby when they claim Libby didn't give Novak stuff that made it into his column. Libby is by far the most likely source of the Mayaki detail. And if he leaked that information--which, according to Libby's operative story, he knew to be classified on July 9--we have every reason to believe that Libby also shared the two details, the name Plame and the detail that Valerie worked as an operative in WMD--that remain unexplained in Novak's column.
Now, these weedy details from Novak's column remain unexplained. But there's a bigger question that also remains unexplained--though all the circumstantial evidence supports the case. Did Dick Cheney, just days before Libby spoke with Novak, order Libby to leak Valerie Wilson's identity to reporters? There's a great deal of evidence that suggests Cheney did. And, there are two FBI interview reports which might support the case. But for some reason, Attorney General Mukasey doesn't want to release those reports and make it clear whether his bosses orchestrated the leak of Valerie Wilson.
But then, we know the Attorney General thinks it's no big deal that the Vice President outed a CIA spy.
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EW spittin nails for Justice. Have always wondered how Novak is still out walking free after being part of the team who outed Plame/Wilson
Ew/all the Diane Rehms show focused on Freddie and Fannie
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/
But for some reason, Attorney General Mukasey doesn’t want to release those reports and make it clear whether his bosses orchestrated the leak of Valerie Wilson.
But then, we know the Attorney General thinks it’s no big deal that the Vice President outed a CIA spy.
David Iglesias commented last Friday that he’d rate AG Mukasey as a “C”.
“He is no Alberto Gonzales. I hear from currently serving US Attorneys that he’s aloof. Probably a good thing for Main Justice to leave US Attorneys alone. Mukasey is a caretaker, nothing more than that. The next US AG will have a lot of re-building to do.”
Iglesias is being more than generous. IMO Mukasey has decided (or had it decided for him & has aquiesed) to act as BushCo firewall, has sacrificed whatever personal & professional integrity he had before assuming office to an overarching mission- the obstruction all investigations into BushCo wrongdoing, including this one which has treasonous ramifications. “No big deal?” It’s only treason, Mike.
The Dept. of Just Us, indeed.
I keep wondering, on this and a whole host of issues, what happens in January 2009, assuming an Obama victory. Much of the evidence of lawlessness of the Bush-Cheney regime will disappear into the Bush ‘funded by extorting Central Asian autocrats’ Library, but will they try to take those FBI interviews with them?
I’m predicting a fireside chat (all chat will be destroyed by Cheney’s
fire)….
Lot at stake — if released the Prez/Veep will be indicted by the Press/American people…
They will try. Will they be allowed to succeed…
Would all the members of Fitzgerald’s staff know the contents of those interviews? And some judges? And who at DoJ?
I agree, Mukasey is just a little smoother version of Gonzo. But then, what did we expect? Did we really think (Senator Schumer) that Bush would put any other kind of person in as AG? Washington is such an incestuous little village.
This country can not move forward without accountability for the Plame/Wilson outing and the many crimes this administration has committed.
They can choose either a nation of walking dead or renewed spirits.
Hopefully the International community will hold them accountable for their war crimes.
“Well, the SOB did it.”
Those we my exact words, when I heard that Bush had commuted Libby’s prison sentence. I’m pleased to be in the same company as Joe Wilson in thinking that Bush is an SOB.
As Joe Wilson stated “it was a hit job”
Valerie Plame Wilson and Joe Wilson on the Bill Maher show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vlE0s83_s
Hopefully the International community will hold them accountable for their war crimes.
Hopefully, but the U.S. needs to sandblast its own dirt encrusted WH as well. In fact, it’s imperative. BushCo has rammed through so many off-the-wall, unprecedented things these past 7 plus yrs., why can’t we ram through something unique in modern times, too- accountability for this Fed Admin’s actions right on up to the highest levels.
Note to President Obama- to really “heal this country, move on, etc.” the U.S. needs @ the very least a Truth & Reconciliation Commission. Personally, since obvious crimes have been committed, I’d prefer hearings followed by the appropriate trials.
What we don’t need is to kick all this wrongdoing under the carpet in an enfeebling effort @ some kind of faux comity. I fear it’ll be up to all of us to force an accounting.
Hey check this out had not been over to No Quarter USa in a long time. Look who was on
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JUST MISSED IT.
Agree
Thursday is the 5 yr anniversary of David Kelly, the UN WMD expert. Two days before his death, David Kelly had appeared before the Foreign Affairs Select Committee and outed as a source who had leaked information to the BBC.
Supposedly, Judith Miller and David Kelly exchanged emails in the days before his death. Miller emailed Kelly and asked him how his appearance before the FASC went and Kelly thanked her for her friendship and talked about “dark actors playing games.”
David Kelly had visited Iraq about a month before his death. He was denied entrance earlier (in mid May) because he did not have proper identification.
I’m not sure of the exact dates Judith Miller was tromping around Iraq, embedded with troops searching for wmd. But on July 2, 2003, just days before Libby’s meeting with Novak and his meeting with Ari, theNYT published a piece written by William J. Broad, David Johnston and Judith Miller that essentially “outed” a secret US project to build a mobile germ unit.
Has anybody ever asked who leaked the classified information regarding the US mobile germ lab to Miller? Strange, just as David Kelly is debunking the mobile weapons lab, his “friend” Judith Miller is highlighting the possibility that they exist and that the US has been training and preparing to deal with them.
The designer of the covert U.S. mobile weapons lab is none other than Steven Hatfill, the guy who just won a multi-million dollar settlement because his life was ruined when he was named as a person of interest in the anthrax case. Miller airs the governments suspicions regarding Hatfill in the article.
One little odd footnote to the Sept/Oct 2001 anthrax attacks- Judith Miller also got a letter with some powder in it. But hers turned out to be a hoax and there were no actual spores in hers.
Judy, Judy, Judy.
She sure turns up alot when classified info is leaked.
Thanks for bringing this up. Kelly’s ‘alleged” suicide sure was suspicious and yes Judy “I was fucking right” Miller sure does show up a great deal whtn it comes to classified intelligence being leaked
Lukery has hit all that hard. Remember, too, that the mobile bioweapons labs, which is what Kelly was sourcing for Judy, was one of the only stories that she began to express doubt on as it happened (probably because Howell Raines had been ousted and Joe Lelyveld, in his position as interim Executive Editor, was hammering her to make up for her earlier crappy reporting).
One more detail that I need to confirm the timing once I get a hold of Jane Mayer’s book, but Judy’s anthrax attack (and her account of it) came just days before Cheney had an apparent bioweapon scare.
Aux armes, citoyens.
Does taking Cipro qualify them as heroes in the WOT?
No no. They’re pre-qualified. Kind of like a big credit card limit.
Assuming the unthinkable doesn’t happen in November, what happens to this investigation after 1/20/09?
Witnessed a very interesting phenomena this morning. An article having to do with the expansion of Illegal west bank settlements was posted at Firedoglake early this morning I posted it at Crooks and Liars. so you can get to the article posted via this link. Now no one put their name to the article or stated any opinions about the article (and we certainly know folks at FDL have no problems sharing intense opinions about other issues at FDL)
Here is the earlier link
http://firedoglake.com/2008/07…..ettlement/
But later that article about the expansion of Illegal settlements was taken down at Firedoglake. So if you go directly to Firedoglake now and do not use the link that I provided earlier at Crooks and Liars You will see what I mean
Here is the direct link..Now
http://firedoglake.com/
the earlier article about the expansion of illegal settlements was between Christy’s latest on Senator Dorgan and the article about the Economy and is not longer there. Wondering why FDL took this article down?
Here is the article that was taken down
The Economy Is Great, Except for Banks, Housing, Autos, Health Care, Energy, the Deficit . . .
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Israel okays new factories in WBank settlement
Monday July 14, 2008 5:19 am
Source: AFP
Published: http://afp.google.com/article/.....qGxhcy1IPQ
JERUSALEM (AFP) — Israel has approved the construction of 25 factories in a Jewish settlement in the heart of the occupied West Bank, a spokesman for the settlement said on Monday.
“We have received authorisation from the ministry of defence to pursue construction on the site of our industrial area,” Ariel settlement spokesman Reuven Shapira told AFP.
“Around 10 factories exist and the project is to reach 35 factories in this area,” he said, adding that work resumed on Monday.
Shapira said the defence ministry had frozen the Ariel project around a year ago to check its feasibility. The settlement lies south of the Palestinian city of Nablus and is one of the biggest in the West Bank.
The Palestinians have repeatedly said the expansion of settlements in the West Bank is the main obstacle to the success of peace talks with Israel formally relaunched at a US conference in November.
The internationally-drafted 2003 peace roadmap, which serves as the basis for the talks, calls on Israel to halt all settlement activities and for the Palestinians to cease all armed attacks.
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Here is the link to the article that I posted over at Crooks and Liars
http://firedoglake.com/2008/07.....ettlement/
My question is why did FDL take this article down?
Sorry just trying to link the article that I posted from firedoglake over to Crooks and liars
athleen Says:
witnessed a very interesting phenomena this morning. This article having to do with the expansion of Illegal west bank settlements was posted at Firedoglake early this morning I posted it at Crooks and LIars. so you can get to the article posted via this link.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/07…..ettlement/
But later that article about the expansion of Illegal settlements was taken down at Firedoglake. So if you go directly to Firedoglake and do not use the link that I provided earlier at Crooks and Liars You will see what I mean
Here is the direct link
http://firedoglake.com/
the earlier article about the expansion of illegal settlements was between Christy’s latest on Senator Dorgan and the article about the Economy and is not longer there. Wondering why?
You can get to it through Crooks and Liars at 12 here
http://www.crooksandliars.com/...../#comments
The news articles are not static. They change, sometimes quickly.
I can access it
try this link
http://firedoglake.com/2008/07.....ettlement/
it just moved down the news queue as new news got posted.
And five years later is a good time to thank you, emptywheel, for ALL that you’ve done. YOU are one who moved this from “move along” to a perjury conviction for Libby — so far.
crooks hire SMARTER crooks to keep em out the slammer and in control of their assets
mole
Still in the NewsBox and accessible from the front page of FDL, at least for me. The NewsBox does not appear when you are looking at a particular FDL post, only on the front page where post summaries appear.
It is a common confusion, but not a conspiracy.
Yes, thank you, Marcy. Your attention to the details and interwoven parts of this story is nothing short of extraordinary. How you do it is beyond me, but I am very happy that you do.
Bastille Day will never seem quite the same, especially for the Wilsons, I suppose….
I propose we rename it “Bastard’s Day” in honor of the mopes who outed Valerie.
Attorney General Mukasey doesn’t want to release those reports and make it clear whether his bosses orchestrated the leak of Valerie Wilson.
ianal: This does not constitute obstruction why?
i love the word mopes…lets call it MOPES DAY…ok?
Off.The.Table.
Impeachemt for some.
Unemployment for all involved.
So why did it appear as a post earlier?
Leen
If you don’t mind, you have already hijacked this thread totally. Please drop it or take it elsewhere. My blog is not a forum for this.
The “shuttled around the world by his/her hot blonde wife/husband/partner” was a meme Cheney settled on early. A variation on a favorite dig among the country club set, suggesting that perks or success weren’t earned, they were married, inherited, won in the lottery, whatever. It’s a dig at one’s sexual prowess, or rather the lack of it.
It’s an ironic meme for several reasons. It’s exactly how much of that economic and, hence, political, power is acquired, Cheney and Rove’s poorer backgrounds notwithstanding. Ironic, too, in that Washington attracts many stunningly attractive people of both sexes because of the confluence of such power. Self-referential, mutual exchanges, rather than individual achievement, are how much of it gets distributed. A reporter marries a central banker, an economist marries a senator, two pundits marry each other, a beer queen marries…, well, sometimes it starts a downward trend.
The Cheney-based dig about the origin of Wilson’s trip is wrong, Plame didn’t pull the strings to send hubby on a trip to keep him busy, which Armitage parrots, also distracts from the trip’s substance by treating it as tabloid fodder. Had it been an act of nepotism, its revelation would have made it an act of whistleblowing, perhaps the biggest irony of all for Cheney, who hates whistleblowers more than he does environmentalists or competent government auditors.
Happy Bastille Day everyone.
i also want to add my appreciation to your keen observations and research
VIVA LA FRANCE
I apologize
If Mukasey had any integrity, he wouldn’t be Mukasey, and I would have had to name the Mukasey Priniciple for someone else.
Mercy buckets.
Vive la France.
Peut-etre, la revolution?
I want to brighten your day after the sad Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac news
http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/20.....ys-strong/
so rejoice all
Thanks
ha GET THE ARISTOCRATS….(oopsie i might be one)
The report also puts into perspective the astounding growth rate over the past decade for jumbo yachts. In 1997, there were just 241 yachts of 80-feet or more under construction around the world. Last year, there were 916 such boats being built.
The average price for motoryachts longer than 100 feet was $10.3 million in 2007. The average price for sailing yachts of the same length was $9 million (although, to the dismay of traditionalists, sailing yachts now make up a tiny fraction of the large yacht market).
adn
who sez CRIME DOES NOT PAY?
Marcy, how do you think we will ever find out the truth? The civil suit is stalled (on appeal, right?) and I can’t imagine any new Administration having any interest in reviewing this — it’s the very definition of what to discard in a “bygones” presidency. Will be ever know exactly what happened, and why? Presuming, of course, the Cheney papers are sealed….
Bushco # of scandals= incalcuable…imo
I was guessing at some of the characters you refer to and I was going to write something probably not very nice about the imprecision of “stunningly attractive,” but then I got to this –
– which is very funny.
The Wilsons are lovely, both of ‘em. I hope they find vindication in the future, and it has been inspiring to watch EW work for it so well. Others too, of course.
Marchons, marchons …
Well, here’s what I think happened:
1) In late May or early June, OVP got the memos supporting Joe’s trip which would have made it clear that Valerie was covert.
2) On June 2, Libby and Armitage had a conversation from which Libby took away (or even planted) that Armi knew Plame was involved in the trip.
3) On June 9, Bush told Libby to take care of the Wilson allegations.
4) Scooter Libby (or someone else in OVP, but I think it was Libby bc of the Ari Fleischer coincidence) tipped both Woodward and Novak to go ask Armitage why Joe Wilson got sent.
5) OVP made at least 4–and likely several more–attempts to force CIA to declassify this.
6) Finally, after the Wilson op-ed, Cheney decided to hit the nuclear button with the knowing approval of Bush.
7) Libby leaked Plame’s ID to Judy and Novak.
How do we prove that? We inch closer and closer. While I don’t think President Obama is going to want to investigate this , I do think AG Napolitano or Edwards will happily turn over those documents to Oversight and HJC. There are some other documents I’d love for someone to do a document track of.
Will the report about how much damage was done to U.S. national Security by the Plame/Wilson outing ever be known? Do you think Mukasey has read this report?
Investigation into Dr. David Kelly’s death/suicide
http://dr-david-kelly.blogspot.com/
Lots of questions around the “Hutton inquiry” into Kelly’s death
http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/
too bad Russert took the details to the grave
Is there any chance that Mukasey might have to cough up the reports if Kucinich’s impeachment hearings go forward? Even if he only brings up the charges of going to war on false wmd charges, wouldn’t the outing of Plame be germane to a coverup of going to war over false pretenses?
It is certainly possible. I’ve said in the past that HJC has a better claim to those reports than Oversight (much as I trust Waxman more to take care of them properly). If HJC is technically undertaking an impeachment inquiry, those reports would be exhibit #1 and #2.
I hope Plame and Wilson get what they’re after, but, to me, this is much bigger than them. I’ve read too many interviews where Wilson has revealed himself to be just another establishment figure who thinks the serious adults should be in charge. And he really should retire his little joke about Valerie being good with an AK-47 giving new meaning to the phrase “yes, dear.” He brings it up in chats, everywhere. It wasn’t that funny the first time. I’m just saying somewhere along the way it stopped being personal for me or about rooting for them in particular.
EW helpfully keeps intellectually picking at the scab of Cheney’s leaking. (Depends on what I mean, I suppose.) Cheney is a master bureaucrat, not at making it work, but at working round it and destroying it. He’s no fool.
It seems unlikely, even given his enormous power in 2003, that he would have leaked classified information about a covert intelligence specialist on WMD’s in the middle of war, where an early justification for it was the claimed existence of Iraqi WMD’s. An administration that placed national security even slightly ahead of its own backside could easily have done a tabloid journalism hit on Wilson without risking exposing its covert intelligence resources.
Which makes it likely, as EW keeps asking, that Cheney had the Plame information declassified. Given the tumult, he could well have done it after the fact, then considered it a ratification or, better yet, an affirmation of an earlier decision.
Of course, admitting that in public, in the middle of a war, might have been perceived as unhelpful at the start of a year-long bid for re-election [sic]. Not to mention just when their initial motives for going to war were being questioned, no WMD’s were found, and new ones had to be thought up. That would be consistent and make it one of several reasons why Fitz never charged anyone with leaking classified info. The consequences to Libby would have been the same had he lied to cover up several follies, the fact of declassification or its timing, included among them.
Can Cheney be his own declassification machine?
http://www.thewashingtonnote.c.....001253.php
ya,he lost me on his Huffpo rants,but it is part and parcel,to the greatest crimminal enterprise,or prises of my lifetime,they got well ELEPHANT size balls
Dead fact witness. I’m just sayin’.
It is very clear that they are after Justice being served, so that another outing like Valerie’s never ever happens again..especially by a U.S. administration.
Wonder if the CIA’s recruitment numbers were effected by Valerie’s outing?
Remember, Pakistan (Turkey too) was part of VPW’s counterproliferation beat.
Plus Iran. I’m just sayin’.
I think you’re correct that Joe and Valerie, up close and personal, are not the perfect poster children for critics of this administration, its wars, and its willingness to sacrifice others on the altar of its ambition. (I wonder if that one, too, is made of Texas limestone?)
Joe, ever the ex-California lifeguard with a brain, is reportedly insistently self-aggrandizing. But then, that’s par for the course inside the Beltway, non? On the facts, though, I think their story is a great illustration of how Bush’s excesses push Village “norms” to heights that take the republic, and all of us who depend on it working well, too close to the sun.
Things were unravelling in Jul 2003. David Kelly was leaking to the BBC, Joe Wilson was refuting their pre-war claims, and no WMDs were found in Iraq. A “tabloid hit piece” may not have been decisive enough- Cheney went bold and for the most part, I think his message got through: Leak what we do not want you to leak and you will die or be destroyed.
Yes, she was giving them “fake” plans for a bomb in a plan that went awry, right? Any idea if she’s in favor of all the covert ops going on in Iran right now? I’m not. I’m not clear where they stand on the issue. We’re all against agents being outed.
Which suggests that getting back at a CIA bureaucrat whose work was not supporting his political ambitions was another reason for Cheney to go as far as he did. Cheney early regarded CIA analysts as hesitant and uncooperative. I think that’s one reason Feith was given the go ahead to invent his own intelligence shop [sic] at the DoD, which helped funnel raw, unanalyzed (and therefore, more manipulable) data to the OVP.
I just think there’s a risk in overidentifying with people who take our side on a particular issue. For all the Murtha madness a few years ago on the blogosphere, you would have thought he was a progressive hero.
I politely disagree here. Deadeye had and has a track record of doing what he wants, and then getting permission/approval/declassification.
In Charlie Savage’s book “Takeover - The Return of the Imperial Presidency…”, one of the very first things Charlie describes is how Deadeye himself “ordered” the shootdown of hijacked airplanes. Deadeye had no Constitutional, statutory or other authority to do so.
When the 9/11 Commission investigated, they could find no record of Deadeye communicating with Junya prior to that order being given even though Deadeye swears he had a phone conversation with Junya where he got the Ok.
The 9/11 Commission asked pleny of witnesses who were actually in the bunker with Deadeye, and none of them (including National Security Advisor Rice) could be found to backup Deadeye’s insistence that he had gotten Junya’s permission.
This isn’t to say that your belief is wrong, but I personally have little doubt that Deadeye does whatever he feels like first, and only later concerns himself with permissions/approvals/declassifications, and then, only if it somehow becomes visible or otherwise attracts attention, even within the White House.
This polecat don’t change his stripes.
http://www.baltimorechronicle......arry.shtml
SPECIAL JUSTICE FOR SPECIAL FRIENDS:
Mukasey: Bush’s New ‘Mr. Cover-up’
by Robert Parry
July 10, 2008—Even Sen. Charles Schumer, whose vote last year ensured Michael Mukasey’s confirmation as Attorney General, was left sputtering as Mukasey returned the favor by rebuffing Schumer’s concerns about the Bush administration’s political prosecutions.
####When does Karl Rove get back from Europe? Will anyone be there from Congress to meet him?
New BlueTex at fdl
But that is assuming that “our side” is always on the same side on every issue. I have found myself disagreeing with Valerie and Joe Wilson on numerous occasions and obviously with folks here….but I know that the threads that tie me to the people here and to the Wilsons and others is the deep commitment to Justice and following the rule of law. That is what ultimately connects me to folks here and to the deep integrity that I sense that the Wilson’s have about serving their country in the best way that they know how.
It is this deep commitment to Justice that keeps EW spittin nails. I do not expect to agree with people on every aspect of an issue. But deep down know that “our side” is committed to equal justice under the law…even though it is in short supply these days
This will only end when the people storm the seats of government with pitchforks, torches and rope in hand. It’s nothing more than a charade and bad kabuki theater.
EW, I have a technical question.
Impeachment hearings have special investigative powers, such as enhanced subpoena powers, right?
What makes a hearing an “impeachment” hearing, with these added powers?
Are only certain committees “eligible” for this? For example, are those powers restricted to HJC as a whole? Or can they be invoked by the subcommittee on the Constitution (Nadler’s)? Is it a matter of self-declaration, or does the House as a whole have to confer the power? What is Conyer’s role?
In view of Pelosi’s mild note of encouragement to CBS, is this just kabuki, i.e., OK, convene a hearing to listen to Kucinich, but that’s all you can do?
Or can the committee actually start impeachment hearings?
Bob in HI
Murtha is committed to fighting for the rights of Vets. Also know that most people who have had their own lives on the line like Murtha (especially based on lies Vietnam, Iraq) are far less likely to put other soldiers lives based on lies on the line.
I deeply respect Murtha for this
MP investigates Dr Kelly’s death
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4995076.stm
Who killed Dr. Kelly?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/art.....bak118.xml
Not just bad theater. Read Naomi “The End Of America”
It is interesting to note that Judy met with Libby (where they discussed Plame) a few days before she wrote the email to Kelly, saying that she heard from one of his biggest “fans” that things were going well for him, which was the day before he “died”; and on the day he “died”, he wrote back that he wasn’t so sure because of dark actors…
Monday, July 14, 2008 by TruthDig.com
Iran Shows Its Cards
by Scott Ritter
“There has never been a more pressing time than now for Congress to conduct serious hearings on U.S. policy toward Iran. Such hearings must not replicate the rubber-stamp hearings held by the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives in the summer of 2002. Those hearings were simply a facilitating vehicle for war with Iraq. New hearings must expand the body of witnesses beyond administration officials and those who would mirror their policy positions, and include experts and specialists who could articulate a counter point of view, exposing Congress to information and analysis which might prompt a fuller debate. This is the last thing AIPAC and the Bush administration want to see. But it is the one thing the American people should be demanding. Only an irrational person or organization could continue to discuss as viable a military strike against Iran. Sadly, based upon past and current policy articulations, neither AIPAC nor the Bush administration can be considered rational when it comes to the issue of Iran. It is up to the American people, through their elected representatives in Congress, to inject a modicum of sanity into a situation that continues to be in danger of spinning out of control.
http://www.commondreams.org/ar...../14/10337/
Scott Ritter is kicking it up
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02730.html
i hate linking to this slimeball, but it bears repeating–
almost five years later, from this past june, this comes out of the rabbit hole.robert novak column saying ’off the record’ tim russert was a source of his for 30 years.
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Early in 1982, over drinks in a Manhattan restaurant, Tim pulled from his briefcase accurate derogatory information about Republican Rep. Bruce Caputo, who was planning to run against Moynihan. That finished Caputo.
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During my half-century of journalism, he was the only colleague who was a source.
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in writing a send-off to his friend, he let a few noodles fly out from his spinning fork.
i want to make sure he gets more sauce on his shirt.
PDF of emails:
http://www.the-hutton-inquiry......4_0076.pdf
Had any official acted on Deadeye’s demand, he or she would have been guilty of following an illegal order, a federal crime. George Bush was available 24/7 to make any decision required to defend the United States, even during the morning’s events on 9/11. That’s what the public pays him to do. That’s why the guy with the nuclear football is always no more than a stated distance away from him. Same with his aides in constant secure coms with the White House and Pentagon. Ditto when Shrub was on Air Force One or at his various stopovers.
There were no confirmed coms blackouts, no legitimate claim that time required “the man on the ground” to make a call that should have been the President’s alone. No legitimate reason for Cheney to have had better or more immediate intel than Bush.
The only practical reason I can think of is that Cheney wanted to preclude Bush from making such decisions, responsibility Bush would have been loathe to assume on his own in any case, so that Cheney could decide. Had Bush actually ceded authority to Cheney without cause, eg, because he was so scared he emptied his bowels, that would have been a reason to remove him from office. Which makes me rather anxious for the inevitable memoirs to roll out.
I don’t disagree that Cheney manipulated Bush to get and use the authority to do WTF he wants, including outing Valerie Plame. I think that’s been their dynamic since Cheney named himself Shrub’s running mate. As always, the problem is the cover up. If Bush ratified or affirmed Cheney’s conduct, it’s presidentially sanctioned conduct. If Bush had the legal authority to act and to delegate his action to an agent like Cheney (all Cheney’s authority is derivative of the President’s, except breaking tie votes in the Senate), then Cheney’s conduct would be legal.
If so, then the liability Cheney sought/seeks to avoid would have been political liability - related to the exposure of his manipulative relationship with the President, or to the act of outing a national security asset for domestic political benefit. I suspect that kept Fitz up at night, possibly knowing that the release of data on Plame was or could have been “legal”, and that only the lies crafted to hide that fact could be prosecuted.
forgot to post my question—did fitz ask novak if RUSSERT ever told him/leaked anything to novak? or ask russert?
can’t remember from the grand jury testimony if that was specifically asked.
Wondering why Novak thought 1988 was the correct date I looked to see what Dick Cheney was doing in 1988. wiki says Iran Contra … Ghorbanifar… voting against Nelson Mandela in the US Senate because the ANC “at the time was viewed as a terrorist organization.” (goes to Cheney’s thinking)
It seems that Cheney’s interests in 1988 would place him near knowledge of “Iraqui delegations” and uranium purchases from Niger, which may be why Novak cited 1988.
Novak’s been around and Cheney’s been around, so what exactly was Novak talking about from 1988?
Who do they think Stephen Hadley leaked to?
For one thing, an impeachment hearing in the House or trial in the Senate has the character of a criminal investigation or trial — it’s investigating or prosecuting “high crimes and misdemeanors”. That makes for a much stronger argument that Congress and the people’s interests outweigh the President’s presumed interest in maintaining the confidentiality of his talks with advisers.
Thanks–
But who gets to do that? On what authority?
Bob in HI
I don’t think we’ve seen, or are entitled to see, Novak’s Grand Jury testimony. All we have is his testimony at Libby’s the trial.
I’m pretty certain that the next Attorney General and Administration (yes, I mean that Obama one) will continue the good tradition of the cover-up of this and other crimes of the past 8 years.
Conyers and Waxman and others will continue the kabuki of subpoenas and investigations. The sheeple will be focused on if they can get a job at McD flipping burgers.
Justice will not be served. Cronyism will be rewarded.
The relevant House committee, possibly Judicia