Comments on: CREW Goes After Elston and McDonald’s Bar Memberships http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:36:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84500 bmaz Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:29:06 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84500 <p>Man, I hate to rain on everybody’s parade, but I don’t see this bar complaint action going anywhere. Especially not as to McDonald in DC. If I recall correctly, the DC Bar ethical rules and canons are extremely weak, to the point of being generally ineffectual, for course and scope matters of Federally employed attorneys. As to Virginia, I don’t recall having specifically reviewed those in the past, but would note that the Virginia Bar could not find any sanctionable conduct on the part of Monica Goodling. Hope I am wrong….</p> Man, I hate to rain on everybody’s parade, but I don’t see this bar complaint action going anywhere. Especially not as to McDonald in DC. If I recall correctly, the DC Bar ethical rules and canons are extremely weak, to the point of being generally ineffectual, for course and scope matters of Federally employed attorneys. As to Virginia, I don’t recall having specifically reviewed those in the past, but would note that the Virginia Bar could not find any sanctionable conduct on the part of Monica Goodling. Hope I am wrong….

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84491 freepatriot Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:59:57 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84491 <p>some might call me crazy, but the repuglitards just moved the goal post again</p> <p>now, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/07/gop-looks-to-redistrict-i_n_110632.html" rel="nofollow">redistricting</a> is the gop’s salvation</p> <p>now we’re talking bout 2010, that’s how BAAAAAAAD the repuglitards got it in 2008</p> <p>too bad we don’t redistrict Senate seats</p> <p>if we did, this plan might just have me worried</p> <p>ROTFLMAO</p> some might call me crazy, but the repuglitards just moved the goal post again

now, redistricting is the gop’s salvation

now we’re talking bout 2010, that’s how BAAAAAAAD the repuglitards got it in 2008

too bad we don’t redistrict Senate seats

if we did, this plan might just have me worried

ROTFLMAO

]]> By: Mary http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84484 Mary Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:44:54 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84484 <p>16 - right now, CREW has the internal review report that makes a specific finding of fault and that’s why they can proceed. So far, no govt related body has made any finding whatsoever of Yoo having done anything unethical by soliciting torture, kidnap and disappearances. Not only that - but courts have been tossing the suits for el-Masir and Arar so fast it makes your head spin. Apparently, DOJ arranged torture isn’t something our courts will grant any remedy against. </p> <p>Contra: having a finger in that pie seems to be an excellent way to get a top ivy league teaching position, mega law firm partnership slot, or ubercorporation general counsel gig. </p> <p>Think about it. Everything that’s known about Arar and Larry Thompson’s direct role in sendig Arar to Syria (right after he got back from his GITMO torture field trip) and yet Pepsico doesn’t flinch to have him as general counsel. I guess if Mugabe weren’t having such successful elections, they’d find a nice slot for him too. </p> <p>The “can’t make this up” point on Elston is that the firm touted his expertise in “government investigations” for his profile. Wrap that up with getting the Amjur book award “Praying to Pictures of The Decider, 101″ and he just couldn’t be a more attractive addition to the office. </p> <p>I wish there was more focus on McNulty (let’s face it, what kind of report nails Elston but leave McNulty on dry ground - especially after Monica’s testimony, or leaves Gonzales on dry ground after that as well???) for not only the firings but also some probing into what he did with the Libby/Rove etc. investigations once he became DAG </p> <p>But it is what it is.</p> 16 – right now, CREW has the internal review report that makes a specific finding of fault and that’s why they can proceed. So far, no govt related body has made any finding whatsoever of Yoo having done anything unethical by soliciting torture, kidnap and disappearances. Not only that – but courts have been tossing the suits for el-Masir and Arar so fast it makes your head spin. Apparently, DOJ arranged torture isn’t something our courts will grant any remedy against.

Contra: having a finger in that pie seems to be an excellent way to get a top ivy league teaching position, mega law firm partnership slot, or ubercorporation general counsel gig.

Think about it. Everything that’s known about Arar and Larry Thompson’s direct role in sendig Arar to Syria (right after he got back from his GITMO torture field trip) and yet Pepsico doesn’t flinch to have him as general counsel. I guess if Mugabe weren’t having such successful elections, they’d find a nice slot for him too.

The “can’t make this up” point on Elston is that the firm touted his expertise in “government investigations” for his profile. Wrap that up with getting the Amjur book award “Praying to Pictures of The Decider, 101″ and he just couldn’t be a more attractive addition to the office.

I wish there was more focus on McNulty (let’s face it, what kind of report nails Elston but leave McNulty on dry ground – especially after Monica’s testimony, or leaves Gonzales on dry ground after that as well???) for not only the firings but also some probing into what he did with the Libby/Rove etc. investigations once he became DAG

But it is what it is.

]]> By: perris http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84476 perris Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:29:41 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84476 <p>so why can’t crew do the same thing for yoo?</p> <p>if anyone needs to lose their bar membership it is yoo, this would send the message, yoo’s opinion do not meet legal standards for the the bar and therefore the constition</p> <p>yoo deserves this much more then these two</p> so why can’t crew do the same thing for yoo?

if anyone needs to lose their bar membership it is yoo, this would send the message, yoo’s opinion do not meet legal standards for the the bar and therefore the constition

yoo deserves this much more then these two

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84471 freepatriot Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:07:36 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84471 <p>so what, I’m some kinda asset now ???</p> <p>never been called that before</p> <p><em>and btw, you might wanna check, some of that ink didn’t dry right …</em></p> <p>(wink)</p> so what, I’m some kinda asset now ???

never been called that before

and btw, you might wanna check, some of that ink didn’t dry right …

(wink)

]]> By: Petrocelli http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84455 Petrocelli Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:26:17 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84455 <p>Yo FP, didja see my comment down thread @ 36 ?<br /><em><br /> *runs and ducks under Kryptonite Desk*</em></p> Yo FP, didja see my comment down thread @ 36 ?

*runs and ducks under Kryptonite Desk*

]]> By: freepatriot http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84452 freepatriot Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:20:07 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84452 <p>lets stop dickin around and start a nation DISBARMENT campaign NOW</p> <p>we got lawyers <em>(looking your way bmaz)</em> and we got organizers</p> <p>let;s start an effort to provide the legal mechanism to file disbarment complaints to everybody</p> <p>as a Citizen of the State of California, I got a right to file an ethics complaint against john yoo, but I got no idea how to do it</p> <p>anybody else in favor of creating a one-stop disbarment page ???</p> <p>it’s a “State” thing, so we’d need to organize a plan for each state we were planning to file in</p> lets stop dickin around and start a nation DISBARMENT campaign NOW

we got lawyers (looking your way bmaz) and we got organizers

let;s start an effort to provide the legal mechanism to file disbarment complaints to everybody

as a Citizen of the State of California, I got a right to file an ethics complaint against john yoo, but I got no idea how to do it

anybody else in favor of creating a one-stop disbarment page ???

it’s a “State” thing, so we’d need to organize a plan for each state we were planning to file in

]]> By: FormerFed http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84451 FormerFed Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:14:53 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84451 <p>University of Notre Dame Law School (2003)</p> University of Notre Dame Law School (2003)

]]> By: hackworth http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84447 hackworth Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:11:49 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84447 <p>Where did she go to law school? What law school accepts students from unaccredited American Taliban Schools? I’m thinking Regent and Regent only.</p> Where did she go to law school? What law school accepts students from unaccredited American Taliban Schools? I’m thinking Regent and Regent only.

]]> By: Petrocelli http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-84445 Petrocelli Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:07:50 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/07/07/crew-goes-after-elston-and-mcdonald-with-the-bar/#comment-84445 <p>Cutting them off from $$$ is the only way to stop these and future criminals.</p> Cutting them off from $$$ is the only way to stop these and future criminals.

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