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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for reminding me about all that Plamoney I’ve got to spend. There’s also the bunch I got for developing the theory (along with Jeff) that Dick Cheney had ordered Libby to leak Plame’s ID. And the bunch I got for predicting that Libby and Novak had an unrevealed conversation the week of the leak.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Damn. I’m going to go put a deposit down on somekind of Plamobile–maybe a sports car or something.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I forsee a convertible PT Cruiser in your future. Ha!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Thanks for reminding me about all that Plamoney I’ve got to spend. There’s also the bunch I got for developing the theory (along with Jeff) that Dick Cheney had ordered Libby to leak Plame’s ID. And the bunch I got for predicting that Libby and Novak had an unrevealed conversation the week of the leak.</p>
<p>Damn. I’m going to go put a deposit down on somekind of Plamobile–maybe a sports car or something.
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<p>I forsee a convertible PT Cruiser in your future. Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EW, am getting a 404 error on the link to your Ghorbanifar Timeline.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But FWIW, this post sure seems like it must be relevant to your Chorbanifar Timeline, so I was trying to double-check the timing of activity related to:&lt;br /&gt;
(1) Porter Goss,&lt;br /&gt;
(2) the Wilkes/Foggo investigation, and&lt;br /&gt;
(3) Colin Powell’s efforts to ensure that John Bolton did not become Amb. to U.N.&lt;br /&gt;
Somehow, all those elements must tie in to the Ghorbanifar Timeline.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Someone (klynn?) linked to prior posts of yours (May 06, TNH).  Several names keep cropping up that seem relevant to this post:&lt;br /&gt;
– Porter Goss, which links to Dusty Foggo,&lt;br /&gt;
– Dusty Foggo links to Mitchell Wade,&lt;br /&gt;
– Mitchell Wade links to ‘the Dukestir’ Cunningham (House Armed Services Appropriations + House Intell Appropriations — a&lt;strong&gt;ll Financial Black Holes with very little oversight&lt;/strong&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
– Dukestir’s black ops corruption and funding seem to link to FISA somehow, though I’m damned if I can figure out quite how (other than $$ for spying, as well as keeping the technologies out of public view).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In addition: Mitchell Wade’s &lt;em&gt;contract employees&lt;/em&gt; did/do a lot of of the US spying at NTCT, which raises some interesting issues related to Cheney’s Secret Government.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Was Cheney able to use the surveillance system in ways that others weren’t?&lt;br /&gt;
(The &lt;em&gt;Salon&lt;/em&gt; link on this thread links to an old Blumenthal article that raises some interesting issues about the whole notion of ‘domestic spying’, and how the neocons used it to subvert Colin Powell. To wit:&lt;br /&gt;
– John Bolton had requested (and obtained) NSA intercepts of Powell’s communications.  How on earth did John Bolton purloin intercepts of the Sec of State…?&lt;br /&gt;
– John Bolton is a Cheney underling.&lt;br /&gt;
– Did Cheney have a key role in getting those intercepts handed off to Bolton?&lt;br /&gt;
– Did Cheney have  some kind of access to the system that even the Congress didn’t know about? (After all, Duke was too busy boinking his brains out with hookers**. )&lt;br /&gt;
– John Bolton used the intercepts to sabotage Powell’s efforts to build relationships with I&lt;strong&gt;ran, Syria, and North Korea.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
– 2003 SOTU defines “Axis of Evil” = Iran, Syria, and North Korea.&lt;br /&gt;
– 2003 SOTU ‘Axis of Evil’ synchs with timing of Plame ‘outing’ and Jerry Doe ‘firing’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– Which leads me to a really stupid question, but here goes:  we know, via Clemons, that Cheney is mighty pissed about the recent deal with North Korea — but since, North Korea has very little to do with oil — but plenty to do with ‘nukes’ — the whole dustup and neocon wrath over North Korea might lend more credence to claims made by Sybil Edmunds, wouldn’t they…? But I digress…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what are the odds that the black ops funding through the House Intell Committee provided some sort of  Surveillance Financing Loophole through which Cheney got whatever the hell he wanted?&lt;br /&gt;
– Mitchell Wade ‘provided office equipment’ for Cheney’s OVP, correct?&lt;br /&gt;
– Mitchell Wade had the contract for hiring ‘contractors’ to listen in on all of us…?&lt;br /&gt;
– What else have I missed on Mitchell Wade…? (And has Glenzilla ever looked into this…?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The number of loop-de-loops going on with all the private-contractors-as-black-ops-specialists, intersecting with Congressional corruption, intersecting with subversion of DoD (via OSP, which was a Cheney-enabled parasite), and intersecting with problems at CIA (which seems to overlap with old House Intell Committee employees known as “Gosslings”) is just dizzying….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Old Hands at CIA appear to have been ‘fighting back’ at Porter Goss and his ‘Gosslings’ — evidently, they were 5 guys who followed Porter Goss over from Capital Hill.&lt;br /&gt;
Where they had staffed the &lt;em&gt;House Intell Committee&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
Which leads us in yet another recursive loop back to &lt;em&gt;House Intell Committee &lt;/em&gt;= Duke Cunningham = Mitchell Wade = Dusty Foggo….[?? = FISA…?]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Addenda&lt;/em&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Was Porter Goss CIA DIrector at the time the torture tapes were destroyed…?&lt;br /&gt;
Was Robert Grenier fired b/c he refused to participate in torture?&lt;br /&gt;
How involved was Goss in helping Cheney build the financial infrastructure in the late 1990s, early 2000 that would have been required in order to move black ops, intel, spying, a&lt;em&gt;nd hiring&lt;/em&gt; out of Congressional oversight?&lt;br /&gt;
This process seems to have accelerated between the mid-1980s and the late 1990s. (Cheney had been on House Intell in the early 1980s during Iran-Contra, hadn’t he? And Goss  probably came on it in the later 1980s…? Or early 1990s…? And he was former CIA.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;** Imagine if you will: Dukestir boinking Tatiana, who’s also boinking Vladimir on the side, who then reports to Abdul, who both ‘contract’ for Mitchell Wade, who ‘plays poker with’**** Porter Goss, who works for Cheney….  or maybe Tatiana also moonlights for ‘Vlodya” Putin.&lt;br /&gt;
Hell, maybe both Tatiana and Vladimir were ‘contracting’ for Jack Abramoff… who knows?&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, if I’m on to a storyline hear, Hollywood agents feel free to email, cause Plamoney isn’t going to put my nephews through college, if you know what I mean.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;**** ‘plays poker with’ : American phrase, Late 19th, early 20th c. Polite term for ‘bribe’ under the guise of &lt;em&gt;playing ‘poker&lt;/em&gt;‘ in which the person who seeks government  contracts appears to lose large sums of money to drunk/incompetent Congressmen.  Form of financial boinking.******&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;****** boinking:  See also: prostitution, esp. ’sexual’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EW, am getting a 404 error on the link to your Ghorbanifar Timeline.  </p>
<p>But FWIW, this post sure seems like it must be relevant to your Chorbanifar Timeline, so I was trying to double-check the timing of activity related to:<br />
(1) Porter Goss,<br />
(2) the Wilkes/Foggo investigation, and<br />
(3) Colin Powell’s efforts to ensure that John Bolton did not become Amb. to U.N.<br />
Somehow, all those elements must tie in to the Ghorbanifar Timeline.  </p>
<p>Someone (klynn?) linked to prior posts of yours (May 06, TNH).  Several names keep cropping up that seem relevant to this post:<br />
– Porter Goss, which links to Dusty Foggo,<br />
– Dusty Foggo links to Mitchell Wade,<br />
– Mitchell Wade links to ‘the Dukestir’ Cunningham (House Armed Services Appropriations + House Intell Appropriations — a<strong>ll Financial Black Holes with very little oversight</strong>).<br />
– Dukestir’s black ops corruption and funding seem to link to FISA somehow, though I’m damned if I can figure out quite how (other than $$ for spying, as well as keeping the technologies out of public view).</p>
<p>In addition: Mitchell Wade’s <em>contract employees</em> did/do a lot of of the US spying at NTCT, which raises some interesting issues related to Cheney’s Secret Government.  </p>
<p>Was Cheney able to use the surveillance system in ways that others weren’t?<br />
(The <em>Salon</em> link on this thread links to an old Blumenthal article that raises some interesting issues about the whole notion of ‘domestic spying’, and how the neocons used it to subvert Colin Powell. To wit:<br />
– John Bolton had requested (and obtained) NSA intercepts of Powell’s communications.  How on earth did John Bolton purloin intercepts of the Sec of State…?<br />
– John Bolton is a Cheney underling.<br />
– Did Cheney have a key role in getting those intercepts handed off to Bolton?<br />
– Did Cheney have  some kind of access to the system that even the Congress didn’t know about? (After all, Duke was too busy boinking his brains out with hookers**. )<br />
– John Bolton used the intercepts to sabotage Powell’s efforts to build relationships with I<strong>ran, Syria, and North Korea.</strong><br />
– 2003 SOTU defines “Axis of Evil” = Iran, Syria, and North Korea.<br />
– 2003 SOTU ‘Axis of Evil’ synchs with timing of Plame ‘outing’ and Jerry Doe ‘firing’.</p>
<p>– Which leads me to a really stupid question, but here goes:  we know, via Clemons, that Cheney is mighty pissed about the recent deal with North Korea — but since, North Korea has very little to do with oil — but plenty to do with ‘nukes’ — the whole dustup and neocon wrath over North Korea might lend more credence to claims made by Sybil Edmunds, wouldn’t they…? But I digress…)</p>
<p>So what are the odds that the black ops funding through the House Intell Committee provided some sort of  Surveillance Financing Loophole through which Cheney got whatever the hell he wanted?<br />
– Mitchell Wade ‘provided office equipment’ for Cheney’s OVP, correct?<br />
– Mitchell Wade had the contract for hiring ‘contractors’ to listen in on all of us…?<br />
– What else have I missed on Mitchell Wade…? (And has Glenzilla ever looked into this…?)</p>
<p>The number of loop-de-loops going on with all the private-contractors-as-black-ops-specialists, intersecting with Congressional corruption, intersecting with subversion of DoD (via OSP, which was a Cheney-enabled parasite), and intersecting with problems at CIA (which seems to overlap with old House Intell Committee employees known as “Gosslings”) is just dizzying….</p>
<p>The Old Hands at CIA appear to have been ‘fighting back’ at Porter Goss and his ‘Gosslings’ — evidently, they were 5 guys who followed Porter Goss over from Capital Hill.<br />
Where they had staffed the <em>House Intell Committee</em>.<br />
Which leads us in yet another recursive loop back to <em>House Intell Committee </em>= Duke Cunningham = Mitchell Wade = Dusty Foggo….[?? = FISA…?]</p>
<p><strong><em>Addenda</em>:</strong><br />
Was Porter Goss CIA DIrector at the time the torture tapes were destroyed…?<br />
Was Robert Grenier fired b/c he refused to participate in torture?<br />
How involved was Goss in helping Cheney build the financial infrastructure in the late 1990s, early 2000 that would have been required in order to move black ops, intel, spying, a<em>nd hiring</em> out of Congressional oversight?<br />
This process seems to have accelerated between the mid-1980s and the late 1990s. (Cheney had been on House Intell in the early 1980s during Iran-Contra, hadn’t he? And Goss  probably came on it in the later 1980s…? Or early 1990s…? And he was former CIA.)</p>
<p>** Imagine if you will: Dukestir boinking Tatiana, who’s also boinking Vladimir on the side, who then reports to Abdul, who both ‘contract’ for Mitchell Wade, who ‘plays poker with’**** Porter Goss, who works for Cheney….  or maybe Tatiana also moonlights for ‘Vlodya” Putin.<br />
Hell, maybe both Tatiana and Vladimir were ‘contracting’ for Jack Abramoff… who knows?<br />
Hey, if I’m on to a storyline hear, Hollywood agents feel free to email, cause Plamoney isn’t going to put my nephews through college, if you know what I mean.</p>
<p>**** ‘plays poker with’ : American phrase, Late 19th, early 20th c. Polite term for ‘bribe’ under the guise of <em>playing ‘poker</em>‘ in which the person who seeks government  contracts appears to lose large sums of money to drunk/incompetent Congressmen.  Form of financial boinking.******</p>
<p>****** boinking:  See also: prostitution, esp. ’sexual’.</p>
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		<title>By: rxbusa</title>
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		<dc:creator>rxbusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT, but I just saw that Darcy Burner’s house burned this morning.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008027474_webfire01m.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but I just saw that Darcy Burner’s house burned this morning.  <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008027474_webfire01m.html" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
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		<title>By: randiego</title>
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		<dc:creator>randiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT: The NY Appeals judge threw out the Arar rendition suit. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I tried posting a link from the NY Times, but it kept breaking the link.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: The NY Appeals judge threw out the Arar rendition suit. </p>
<p>I tried posting a link from the NY Times, but it kept breaking the link.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, but I simply stated the obvious.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but I simply stated the obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: BayStateLibrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>BayStateLibrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sweet, Bmaz&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well deserved. And nice to see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well deserved. And nice to see.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Absolutely. Richard Perle was one of the first people who set her on her path of crappy reporting. And she was practically living with Chalabi during her reporting from Iraq–and had been fed key stories by him leading up to the war.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely. Richard Perle was one of the first people who set her on her path of crappy reporting. And she was practically living with Chalabi during her reporting from Iraq–and had been fed key stories by him leading up to the war.</p>
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		<title>By: Leen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Together, Again&lt;br /&gt;
Judith Miller and Ahmad Chalabi.&lt;br /&gt;
By Jack Shafer&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2112900/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slate.com/id/2112900/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Together, Again<br />
Judith Miller and Ahmad Chalabi.<br />
By Jack Shafer</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2112900/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2112900/</a></p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so now we have documentation, unequivical, that the president and/or sorrogates deliberately altered inteligence that told us in no uncertain terms the case for war was false&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;let me repeat;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;deliberately altered by this administration to lie us into war&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;any other president would have been impeached for this alone, yet the table remains baren&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so now we have documentation, unequivical, that the president and/or sorrogates deliberately altered inteligence that told us in no uncertain terms the case for war was false</p>
<p>let me repeat;</p>
<p>deliberately altered by this administration to lie us into war</p>
<p>any other president would have been impeached for this alone, yet the table remains baren</p>
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