Comments on: Senate Armed Services Torture Hearing

By: Petrocelli

Petrocelli — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:47:16 +0000

LOL … yep lots of those stories up here too …

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:32:29 +0000

A tragedy we don’t yet appreciate is that a description of Nazi methods in the occupied East has many similarities with the torture and other policies the current American administration employs in its GWOT. Especially its resort to terror, intimidation and domestic spying as a way to cow its own people as well as those it calls the enemy.

By: rkilowatt

rkilowatt — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:17:47 +0000

EOH @128
Alfred Jodl, order issued to the German Army (23rd July, 1941)

In view of the vast size of the occupied areas in the East the forces available for establishing security in these areas
will be sufficient only if all resistance is punished not by legal prosecution of the guilty but by the spreading of such terror
by the occupying power as is appropriate to eradicate every inclination to resist among the population.
The competent commanders must find the means of keeping order not by demanding more
security forces but by applying suitable Draconian methods.

By: Minnesotachuck

Minnesotachuck — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:06:29 +0000

I was too young during the war to have a personal, contemporary memory of the POW camp, but do recall it being pointed out to me a year or two after VE and VJ days.

A former co-worker who was about 5+ years older than I and who grew up in another small MN town that had a camp, and on whose farm some of the POWs worked, recalled an incident in which one of the guards laid down his weapon and forgot where he put it, whereupon a POW found it and handed it to him.

By: Petrocelli

Petrocelli — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:33:41 +0000

The Guards up here didn’t bother carrying weapons until their superiors came by. We won’t get into how many HomeBrews were crafted by the German POWs …

By: Minnesotachuck

Minnesotachuck — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:30:02 +0000

There was a POW camp for Germans in my home town in southern Minnesota (population about 10K). They were put to work in the fields that fed the local canning factory.

McCaskill was awesome!

By: Petrocelli

Petrocelli — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:26:46 +0000

HoJo; Should we be torturing our troops harder ?

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:23:36 +0000

Danke schoen.

By: greenbird4751

greenbird4751 — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:23:01 +0000

for every person you torture or don’t charge each of their family becomes your enemy, all of their friends

you turn your friends into enemies, moderates into extremists and extremists into heroes.

how, for this and for every incident america has caused or enabled-directly or indirectly-in order to obtain nothing more than dominance, how does america make amends? what concievable reparations are there?

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:22:42 +0000

My apologies for confusing Sessions with the senators from Texas. I spent a year in Dallas one week.

As for the observation about small town justice in Texas, I had in mind the series of “convictions” on drug charges in Tulia, TX, of virtually its entire black population by a county sheriff, who was subsequently shown to have wholly fabricated his evidence. Bob Herbert did a series on it in 2003. It took years to overturn the obviously faulty convictions.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f.....A9659C8B63
http://www.forejustice.org/wc/tulia_travesty.htm