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	<title>Comments on: Senate Armed Services Torture Hearing, Two</title>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/17/senate-armed-services-torture-hearing-two/#comment-78476</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;not really&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;where you think the innernets came from ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you think Al Gore just had a shitload of tubes in his basement, or somethin ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the innertubes was developed to share information amongst America’s nuclear facilities, starting with the Universities, Los Alamos, Oak Ridge etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Including the nuclear power plants is a way to monitor and control the pile remotely. I’d wager that this is an important feature since chernoble&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;most nuclear plants have been “on line” since they first started operations&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not really</p>
<p>where you think the innernets came from ???</p>
<p>you think Al Gore just had a shitload of tubes in his basement, or somethin ???</p>
<p>the innertubes was developed to share information amongst America’s nuclear facilities, starting with the Universities, Los Alamos, Oak Ridge etc.</p>
<p>Including the nuclear power plants is a way to monitor and control the pile remotely. I’d wager that this is an important feature since chernoble</p>
<p>most nuclear plants have been “on line” since they first started operations</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/17/senate-armed-services-torture-hearing-two/#comment-78466</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;he whisked the laptop outside the security perimeter. It had the controls to considerable nuclear reactors. He was hacked within 30 minutes. Fortunately the reactors had been taken off line at the time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, you’re saying he hooked up to the Internet with a laptop which was authorized for use in a nuclear plant?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That sounds soooo unlikely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>he whisked the laptop outside the security perimeter. It had the controls to considerable nuclear reactors. He was hacked within 30 minutes. Fortunately the reactors had been taken off line at the time.</p>
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<p>So, you’re saying he hooked up to the Internet with a laptop which was authorized for use in a nuclear plant?</p>
<p>That sounds soooo unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/17/senate-armed-services-torture-hearing-two/#comment-78429</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have a story for you that’s true as opposed to false.  This story was relayed from Mark Minnasi who writes a lot of the server books and consults to all the known and unknown alphabet agencies on computer security.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A grandfather who is high up in a nuclear plant in Ohio wanted to take some games he had procured on his workplace laptop home to play with his grandson.  Without thinking, or following protocol he whisked the laptop outside the security perimeter.  It had the controls to considerable nuclear reactors.  He was hacked within 30 minutes. Fortunately the reactors had been taken off line at the time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a story for you that’s true as opposed to false.  This story was relayed from Mark Minnasi who writes a lot of the server books and consults to all the known and unknown alphabet agencies on computer security.</p>
<p>A grandfather who is high up in a nuclear plant in Ohio wanted to take some games he had procured on his workplace laptop home to play with his grandson.  Without thinking, or following protocol he whisked the laptop outside the security perimeter.  It had the controls to considerable nuclear reactors.  He was hacked within 30 minutes. Fortunately the reactors had been taken off line at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/17/senate-armed-services-torture-hearing-two/#comment-78428</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Good Doctor Kahn–a nuke a day keeps the Dr. Away–Abdul Qadeer Khan and the Bushies chest pounding tough asses all, and all the tough ass Neocons have done so much to catch real terrorists haven’t they–and when terrorists send missles up their ass they rush to read Little Goat and fly around like a chicken with their head cut off in Air Force Chickenshit don’t they?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush and McCain make it possible along with Condi Blahnik to have a &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jericho in the US Soon at the Hands of Terrorist Nukesa&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Big ass SUVs in wealthy suburban neighborhoods in the banana Republc US brimming full of high income morons.  We’ll keep ya safe. Condi has a handle on all the places on the Upper East Side to get them Blahniks but she doesn’t have shit for an idea of where the loose nukes are or how to control their sale to terrrrriiiiisssstssssttttsss.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/abdul_qadeer_khan/index.html?inline=nyt-per&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Have a Nuke with that Neo-Con Old Fashioned Toast Dr. Kahn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s do some frigin’ offshore drillin’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/world/asia/16nuke.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Officials Fear Bomb Design Went to Others&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/09/international/africa/09WEAP.html?ex=1391662800&amp;en=79674d50fc8926ab&amp;ei=5007&amp;partner=USERLAND&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Libya’s A-Bomb Blueprints Reveal New Tie to Pakistani&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/02/pakistan-loosens-reins-on-aq-khan/?scp=1-b&amp;sq=kahn+bomb&amp;st=nyt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pakistan Loosens Reins on A.Q. Khan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Good Doctor Kahn–a nuke a day keeps the Dr. Away–Abdul Qadeer Khan and the Bushies chest pounding tough asses all, and all the tough ass Neocons have done so much to catch real terrorists haven’t they–and when terrorists send missles up their ass they rush to read Little Goat and fly around like a chicken with their head cut off in Air Force Chickenshit don’t they?</p>
<p>Bush and McCain make it possible along with Condi Blahnik to have a <strong><a href="http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/" rel="nofollow">Jericho in the US Soon at the Hands of Terrorist Nukesa&gt;</a></strong></p>
<p>Big ass SUVs in wealthy suburban neighborhoods in the banana Republc US brimming full of high income morons.  We’ll keep ya safe. Condi has a handle on all the places on the Upper East Side to get them Blahniks but she doesn’t have shit for an idea of where the loose nukes are or how to control their sale to terrrrriiiiisssstssssttttsss.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/abdul_qadeer_khan/index.html?inline=nyt-per" rel="nofollow">Have a Nuke with that Neo-Con Old Fashioned Toast Dr. Kahn</a></strong></p>
<p>Let’s do some frigin’ offshore drillin’.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/world/asia/16nuke.html" rel="nofollow">Officials Fear Bomb Design Went to Others</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/09/international/africa/09WEAP.html?ex=1391662800&amp;en=79674d50fc8926ab&amp;ei=5007&amp;partner=USERLAND" rel="nofollow">Libya’s A-Bomb Blueprints Reveal New Tie to Pakistani</a></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/02/pakistan-loosens-reins-on-aq-khan/?scp=1-b&amp;sq=kahn+bomb&amp;st=nyt" rel="nofollow">Pakistan Loosens Reins on A.Q. Khan</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/17/senate-armed-services-torture-hearing-two/#comment-78417</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know about any “Jerico” program, but last week I heard that the guy from Pakistan who was selling nuclear secrets had a complete set of plans for a small nuclear bomb on a laptop&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if it will fit on a laptop, you can burn it on to a disk&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I saw some other stuff about three guys in Switzerland (???WTF), who were being held because they had copies of the plans&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there’s another genie outta the bottle&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and we’re just finding out about this now&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know about any “Jerico” program, but last week I heard that the guy from Pakistan who was selling nuclear secrets had a complete set of plans for a small nuclear bomb on a laptop</p>
<p>if it will fit on a laptop, you can burn it on to a disk</p>
<p>I saw some other stuff about three guys in Switzerland (???WTF), who were being held because they had copies of the plans</p>
<p>there’s another genie outta the bottle</p>
<p>and we’re just finding out about this now</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/17/senate-armed-services-torture-hearing-two/#comment-78368</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I seriously hate every nano second of Iraq and mismanagement of Afghanistan (1200 prisoners out by explosion last week and who knows how many were bad guys and how many were innocents swept up) and the bad investment in Pakistan where OBL probably is and the fact that in reality there are probably vibrant cells here waiting to set up a Jerico paradigm if you ever saw the show on CBS (I like it–they cancelled it–always happens except with LOST that does thrive).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I seriously believe though in the empathy arena, that we aren’t getting out of Iraq unless and until a Draft throws a cold shower.  I want a Draft not to sweep up college kids, but to wake Congress up so that they immediately rush to get out of Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And it goes without saying all these tough guys like Scalia wouldn’t begin to be able to survive in the milieu the prescribe from the safety of their luxurious surroundings.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously hate every nano second of Iraq and mismanagement of Afghanistan (1200 prisoners out by explosion last week and who knows how many were bad guys and how many were innocents swept up) and the bad investment in Pakistan where OBL probably is and the fact that in reality there are probably vibrant cells here waiting to set up a Jerico paradigm if you ever saw the show on CBS (I like it–they cancelled it–always happens except with LOST that does thrive).</p>
<p>I seriously believe though in the empathy arena, that we aren’t getting out of Iraq unless and until a Draft throws a cold shower.  I want a Draft not to sweep up college kids, but to wake Congress up so that they immediately rush to get out of Iraq.</p>
<p>And it goes without saying all these tough guys like Scalia wouldn’t begin to be able to survive in the milieu the prescribe from the safety of their luxurious surroundings.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody else get the idea that America might be looking for a “Robespierre” right about now ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank jebus I’m habitually hard core unemployable*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;*It’s a medical condition. I made it up&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody else get the idea that America might be looking for a “Robespierre” right about now ???</p>
<p>thank jebus I’m habitually hard core unemployable*</p>
<p><em>*It’s a medical condition. I made it up</em></p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/17/senate-armed-services-torture-hearing-two/#comment-78333</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oh shit …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m agreeing with PetePierce&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;whodathunkit ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I got a sure fire way to get the supreme court to rule that all of george’s pixie dust is illegal&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you get a plane on a runway in DC, and if this shit is constitutional, some supreme court justices are goin for a ride&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;see if scalia believes in habeas corpus when it’s his ass in a cage&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I like the simple solutions best&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do un to others and all that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hey george, if this legal, STEP UP PAL, YOU’RE NEXT&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh shit …</p>
<p>I’m agreeing with PetePierce</p>
<p>whodathunkit ???</p>
<p>I got a sure fire way to get the supreme court to rule that all of george’s pixie dust is illegal</p>
<p>you get a plane on a runway in DC, and if this shit is constitutional, some supreme court justices are goin for a ride</p>
<p>see if scalia believes in habeas corpus when it’s his ass in a cage</p>
<p>I like the simple solutions best</p>
<p>do un to others and all that</p>
<p>hey george, if this legal, STEP UP PAL, YOU’RE NEXT</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since we’ve approved Waterboarding in Bannana Republic USA (not the clothes store) all enemy combatants and it’s Aokay with Torture Mukasey, I don’t understand why Levin doesn’t set up waterboarding to refresh the memory of all these lying turkeys.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we’ve approved Waterboarding in Bannana Republic USA (not the clothes store) all enemy combatants and it’s Aokay with Torture Mukasey, I don’t understand why Levin doesn’t set up waterboarding to refresh the memory of all these lying turkeys.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;uhm, read the part AFTER the words “25 acres”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it says the 25 acres are in texas&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how could that be good for humans ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;(wink)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhm, read the part AFTER the words “25 acres”</p>
<p>it says the 25 acres are in texas</p>
<p>how could that be good for humans ???</p>
<p><em>(wink)</em></p>
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