Comments on: Senate Armed Services Torture Hearing, Four (Haynes)

By: MrWhy

MrWhy — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:55:14 +0000

By: Leen

Leen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:52:02 +0000

Why did everyone avoid bringing up Chertoff’s name and his possible role in the “new” techniques?

With all of these warnings from Military officials and Haynes dismissal of these warnings it is amazing Reed and others did not rake Haynes over the coals even more.

Why was Chertoff not there to testify? Will he be called in?

By: Leen

Leen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:47:22 +0000

In the timeline reference to those memos that Haynes said he did not see. You know so many “papers” to deal with. Could not believe that he said he did not see those memos. It was not like those “memos’ were from a bunch of bloggers.

“Early November 2002 — Push-back: In a series of scathing memos, alarmed military officials from all four services raised questions about the legality and effectiveness of the techniques under consideration. The Air Force cited “serious concerns regarding the legality” of the techniques. The chief of the Army’s international law division said some of the techniques, like stress positions and sensory deprivation, “cross the line of ‘humane’ treatment.’” He added that the techniques “may violate the torture statute.” The Navy called for further legal review. The Marine Corps wrote that the techniques “arguably violate federal law.”

By: Leen

Leen — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:43:20 +0000

There is a Bush Government Torture Timeline up at Salon By Mark Benjaman.

Unable to link

By: readerOfTeaLeaves

readerOfTeaLeaves — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:29:46 +0000

Clarification, please… Chertoff was head of DoJ Criminal Division, reporting to Ashcroft, who reported to Bush. So for the first time, we now have all the dots connecting in that pathway; there is a clear, tight sequence with no skipped dots. Correct?

By: MrWhy

MrWhy — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:00:20 +0000

Does the committee have Haynes calendar/diary/itinerary for period Nov/Dec 2002? Who did he meet with, converse with, to inform his decision making process?

By: Petrocelli

Petrocelli — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:50:46 +0000

Marcy, stellar work as always !!!

By: Petrocelli

Petrocelli — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:50:24 +0000

Please call his office and demand to know why he missed this hearing.

By: klynn

klynn — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:46:27 +0000

EW,

Thank you so much. Your effort was tremendous.

By: Nell

Nell — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:44:53 +0000

Following up on Webb: No hearings in Veterans Affairs (Akaka, the chair, is on this committee and took part in today’s questioning). Only afternoon hearings in Foreign Relations — a missable one at 2:15 and a closed session at 4:30.

I’m not a happy constituent.