Comments on: Scottie and Condi and the Niger Intelligence http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/ Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:48:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: earlofhuntingdon http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76400 earlofhuntingdon Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:24:14 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76400 <p>Late to the party, but I’m still amazed that the WH discussions were all about selectively leaking tiny portions of classified data without attribution to “reliable” “news” outlets, in a campaign to smear a public opponent who used unclassified data to call the President a liar. </p> <p>Golly. One would think that rather than screw their critic, his wife and her professional intelligence network, they might have unclassified data in order to use it in a public debate to prove that they were right. I guess they knew they’d never win that honest debate, so they just did what comes naturally: they played dirty, using all the power of government against one ex-lifeguard/former public employee and his government employee wife.</p> Late to the party, but I’m still amazed that the WH discussions were all about selectively leaking tiny portions of classified data without attribution to “reliable” “news” outlets, in a campaign to smear a public opponent who used unclassified data to call the President a liar.

Golly. One would think that rather than screw their critic, his wife and her professional intelligence network, they might have unclassified data in order to use it in a public debate to prove that they were right. I guess they knew they’d never win that honest debate, so they just did what comes naturally: they played dirty, using all the power of government against one ex-lifeguard/former public employee and his government employee wife.

]]> By: Mauimom http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76177 Mauimom Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:23:24 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76177 <p>I hope you’ve sent off a letter to Isikoff & Newsweek pointing out this fact.</p> <p>That toad.</p> I hope you’ve sent off a letter to Isikoff & Newsweek pointing out this fact.

That toad.

]]> By: Mauimom http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76174 Mauimom Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:13:26 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76174 <blockquote><p>one that revealed that Libby and Cheney had been cracking heads at CIA. But because he does not deal with these issues, he underplays Bush’s role and the role of the animosity between the CIA and WH in the leak.</p></blockquote> <p>I continue to be pissed every time the Admin, and particularly the MSM, refer to “faulty intelligence,” as though blaming incompetents [i.e., incompetent people] at the CIA.</p> <p>I’m not defending Langley, but it’s clear that Cheney’s head cracking and the general cherry-picking were a lot more responsible than incompetence. However, once the MSM have their “meme,” they never deviate from it.</p> <p>BTW/OT did folks see Keith slam Katie Couric as Worst Person the other night?</p>

one that revealed that Libby and Cheney had been cracking heads at CIA. But because he does not deal with these issues, he underplays Bush’s role and the role of the animosity between the CIA and WH in the leak.

I continue to be pissed every time the Admin, and particularly the MSM, refer to “faulty intelligence,” as though blaming incompetents [i.e., incompetent people] at the CIA.

I’m not defending Langley, but it’s clear that Cheney’s head cracking and the general cherry-picking were a lot more responsible than incompetence. However, once the MSM have their “meme,” they never deviate from it.

BTW/OT did folks see Keith slam Katie Couric as Worst Person the other night?

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76117 Leen Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:40:09 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76117 <p>Still amazed and ashamed that the U.S. congress can hold a President accountable for lying under oath about a blow job.</p> <p>we have yet to witness this U.S. congress or the previously Republican controlled congress hold anyone not anyone ACCOUNTABLE FOR AN INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB! What twisted and perverted priorities. And the whole world is watching and I would imagine smirking. They all ready knew.</p> <p>HOLD THOSE REPONSIBLE FOR THIS INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB ACCOUNTABLE. THIS IS THE VERY LEAST OUR CONGRESS CAN DO FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEEDLESSLY LOST THEIR LIVE IN AN IMMORAL AND ILLEGAL WAR OF CHOICE. THE VERY LEAST!</p> Still amazed and ashamed that the U.S. congress can hold a President accountable for lying under oath about a blow job.

we have yet to witness this U.S. congress or the previously Republican controlled congress hold anyone not anyone ACCOUNTABLE FOR AN INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB! What twisted and perverted priorities. And the whole world is watching and I would imagine smirking. They all ready knew.

HOLD THOSE REPONSIBLE FOR THIS INTELLIGENCE SNOWJOB ACCOUNTABLE. THIS IS THE VERY LEAST OUR CONGRESS CAN DO FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NEEDLESSLY LOST THEIR LIVE IN AN IMMORAL AND ILLEGAL WAR OF CHOICE. THE VERY LEAST!

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76114 Leen Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:05:49 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76114 <p>I was out side during the Cinci Speech protesting the upcoming invasion along with thousands of other people from the region. A real mixed of people mostly from the Cinci and Dayton region. Audiotaped nuns from the Cinci region, Proctor and Gamble employees, students, several lawyers, some soccer moms ets. Folks were holding a banner( (drop Bush not Bombs) over an over pass (over I-75)that the crowd had spilled over on.<br /> truckers were honking as well as many other folks passing by in their cars. Did the MSM show the rest of the world who was outside protesting that Cinci speech? hell no. The MSM was driving me insane at this point. They were echoing what they were being told, not asking challenging questions and then inaccurately protraying who the people were out questioning what the Bush administration was repeating in the run up to the invasion.</p> <p>Did the MSM learn anything from their very serious and bloddy mistakes? Not much. For the last four years they have been doing the very same thing in regard to Iran. I have been trying to keep track of how often I have heard unsubstantiated claims about Iran slipping by Diane Rehm, Chris Matthews etc. Diane Rehm has allowed this to happen numerous times once with Reuel Marc Gerecht that was expecially infuriating. Talk of the Nations Neil Conan let John Bolton spend an hour repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran. Matthews and Stephanapoulous have allowed McCain to repeat a list of unsubstantiated claism about Iran. Tim Russert gave Cheney several opporutnities to do the same. Did the MSM leanrn any lesson that we can see examples of. Are they asking challenging questions about the Iran claims. Hell no! This has been going on for four long years. Someone will make a film after we attack Iran and say oops look what the MSM did again. There will be studies and investigations etc etc</p> <p>Just why is the MSM ignoring the NIE having to do with Iran? Just why has the MSM ignored what Iaeas Mr. El Baradei has to say about Iran? Why is it that around 70% of Americans believe that Iran has a nuclear weapons program all ready in existence? Could it have anything to do with the MSM allowing these unsubstantitiatd claims in regard to Iran to be<br /> endlessly repeated? Jesus Mary and Joseph help us!</p> <p> I mean I know history repeats itself and I know it is claimed that the American people have short attentions spans but this is insane</p> I was out side during the Cinci Speech protesting the upcoming invasion along with thousands of other people from the region. A real mixed of people mostly from the Cinci and Dayton region. Audiotaped nuns from the Cinci region, Proctor and Gamble employees, students, several lawyers, some soccer moms ets. Folks were holding a banner( (drop Bush not Bombs) over an over pass (over I-75)that the crowd had spilled over on.
truckers were honking as well as many other folks passing by in their cars. Did the MSM show the rest of the world who was outside protesting that Cinci speech? hell no. The MSM was driving me insane at this point. They were echoing what they were being told, not asking challenging questions and then inaccurately protraying who the people were out questioning what the Bush administration was repeating in the run up to the invasion.

Did the MSM learn anything from their very serious and bloddy mistakes? Not much. For the last four years they have been doing the very same thing in regard to Iran. I have been trying to keep track of how often I have heard unsubstantiated claims about Iran slipping by Diane Rehm, Chris Matthews etc. Diane Rehm has allowed this to happen numerous times once with Reuel Marc Gerecht that was expecially infuriating. Talk of the Nations Neil Conan let John Bolton spend an hour repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran. Matthews and Stephanapoulous have allowed McCain to repeat a list of unsubstantiated claism about Iran. Tim Russert gave Cheney several opporutnities to do the same. Did the MSM leanrn any lesson that we can see examples of. Are they asking challenging questions about the Iran claims. Hell no! This has been going on for four long years. Someone will make a film after we attack Iran and say oops look what the MSM did again. There will be studies and investigations etc etc

Just why is the MSM ignoring the NIE having to do with Iran? Just why has the MSM ignored what Iaeas Mr. El Baradei has to say about Iran? Why is it that around 70% of Americans believe that Iran has a nuclear weapons program all ready in existence? Could it have anything to do with the MSM allowing these unsubstantitiatd claims in regard to Iran to be
endlessly repeated? Jesus Mary and Joseph help us!

I mean I know history repeats itself and I know it is claimed that the American people have short attentions spans but this is insane

]]> By: Leen http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76108 Leen Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:33:39 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76108 <p>Hadley and Condi “Mushroom cloud” sure seem to have a dealy pattern going on ignoring warnings from qualified sources.</p> Hadley and Condi “Mushroom cloud” sure seem to have a dealy pattern going on ignoring warnings from qualified sources.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76097 bmaz Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:33:24 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76097 <p>Bull hooey on that! I say fight! Of course, when I did that, suddenly everything on my bill was slightly bigger in a way that it wasn’t previously, but was individually incrementally too small to challenge. Guess that didn’t work out real well for me; but I did read them the riot act. Ergo Verizon found a new customer.</p> Bull hooey on that! I say fight! Of course, when I did that, suddenly everything on my bill was slightly bigger in a way that it wasn’t previously, but was individually incrementally too small to challenge. Guess that didn’t work out real well for me; but I did read them the riot act. Ergo Verizon found a new customer.

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76096 emptywheel Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:18:15 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76096 <p>I think what they’re arguing is that my phone turned on in my backpack and HAPPENED to hit the precise combination of keys to get online for the hour I was in Amsterdam. </p> <p>Voila: a $140 transfer. </p> <p>Fuckers.</p> I think what they’re arguing is that my phone turned on in my backpack and HAPPENED to hit the precise combination of keys to get online for the hour I was in Amsterdam.

Voila: a $140 transfer.

Fuckers.

]]> By: bmaz http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76093 bmaz Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:10:01 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76093 <p>Let me be the first, er second, to scold said heathens and to demand proper attribution from them. They may hear from your lawyer. I would also like to point out that I am fairly lame on keeping details on everything straight sometimes. Crikey, you have been wailing on this stuff so fast and hard, I can’t keep track of stuff from yesterday. I am fairly interested in this T-Mobile rip off though; what’s up with that? I still hold a fairly serious grudge against them from about 4 years ago, and they may still have a not very pleasant recollection of me….</p> Let me be the first, er second, to scold said heathens and to demand proper attribution from them. They may hear from your lawyer. I would also like to point out that I am fairly lame on keeping details on everything straight sometimes. Crikey, you have been wailing on this stuff so fast and hard, I can’t keep track of stuff from yesterday. I am fairly interested in this T-Mobile rip off though; what’s up with that? I still hold a fairly serious grudge against them from about 4 years ago, and they may still have a not very pleasant recollection of me….

]]> By: emptywheel http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76092 emptywheel Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:56:47 +0000 http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/11/scottie-and-condi-and-the-niger-intelligence/#comment-76092 <p>Forgive me for being crabby (T-Mobile has decided to charge me $140 for walking through Amsterdam’s airport). But some of their “previously undisclosed stuff was–by me and eriposte who actually read the FIRST SSCI report closely. Something that Isikoff actually made fun of us for during the trial.</p> Forgive me for being crabby (T-Mobile has decided to charge me $140 for walking through Amsterdam’s airport). But some of their “previously undisclosed stuff was–by me and eriposte who actually read the FIRST SSCI report closely. Something that Isikoff actually made fun of us for during the trial.

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