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	<title>Comments on: Scottie McC&#8217;s Chronology: September 29</title>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/scottie-mccs-chronology-september-29/comment-page-1/#comment-76002</link>
		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the very slight probability anyone will read this Bowers has Chambliss as a lock. I was wondering why I was not reading about the person running against him. Ensign is really saying that every competitive seat is so risky that the RSCC appreciates the locks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the very slight probability anyone will read this Bowers has Chambliss as a lock. I was wondering why I was not reading about the person running against him. Ensign is really saying that every competitive seat is so risky that the RSCC appreciates the locks.</p>
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		<title>By: kspena</title>
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		<dc:creator>kspena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“It” also points to something really BAD.  The ‘it’ in “He didn’t do IT” means he didn’t break that priceless platter, or he didn’t steal those valuable coins, or he didn’t out that covert spy….   I read this as bush’s MO for his whole life long; it works for him…. an agressive, “He didn’t do IT.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It” also points to something really BAD.  The ‘it’ in “He didn’t do IT” means he didn’t break that priceless platter, or he didn’t steal those valuable coins, or he didn’t out that covert spy….   I read this as bush’s MO for his whole life long; it works for him…. an agressive, “He didn’t do IT.”</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m inclined to disagree.&lt;br /&gt;
Upperdown hands also signals, ‘cut it out’ IMHO.&lt;br /&gt;
The thing the WH was clearly worried about was conspiracy; Card’s admonition, “… shouldn’t be talking about it’ suggests to me they’d already cooked the books. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not disagreeing, however, on other points in the post.&lt;br /&gt;
The plot thickens…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m inclined to disagree.<br />
Upperdown hands also signals, ‘cut it out’ IMHO.<br />
The thing the WH was clearly worried about was conspiracy; Card’s admonition, “… shouldn’t be talking about it’ suggests to me they’d already cooked the books. </p>
<p>Not disagreeing, however, on other points in the post.<br />
The plot thickens…</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Look ‘em in the eye, smile, and simply say, “Hmmmm… ya think gas at over $4/gal is a big GOP selling point?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At this point, let the GOP dream about 41 seats.&lt;br /&gt;
It could happen.&lt;br /&gt;
But once the American public grasps that the Preznit and VP have aided, abetted, and enabled a nest of spies, the GOP is deader’n a  sarcophagus.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People forgive a lot of things, but not treason.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look ‘em in the eye, smile, and simply say, “Hmmmm… ya think gas at over $4/gal is a big GOP selling point?”</p>
<p>At this point, let the GOP dream about 41 seats.<br />
It could happen.<br />
But once the American public grasps that the Preznit and VP have aided, abetted, and enabled a nest of spies, the GOP is deader’n a  sarcophagus.</p>
<p>People forgive a lot of things, but not treason.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnesotachuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnesotachuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bush’s glib, “Karl didn’t do it” - without explaining what the “it” was - implies a foolishly overconfident executive or an executive who knew who did do it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would add the following clause to this sentence: “and who may very well have been personally involved in doing it.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bush’s glib, “Karl didn’t do it” &#8211; without explaining what the “it” was &#8211; implies a foolishly overconfident executive or an executive who knew who did do it.</p>
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<p>I would add the following clause to this sentence: “and who may very well have been personally involved in doing it.”</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/09/scottie-mccs-chronology-september-29/comment-page-1/#comment-75588</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m making a very limited point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moving your hands up and down signals “quiet.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moving your hands from side to side, crossing them in front of you means “stop what you’re doing/talking about.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scottie very clearly describes the former signal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m making a very limited point.</p>
<p>Moving your hands up and down signals “quiet.”</p>
<p>Moving your hands from side to side, crossing them in front of you means “stop what you’re doing/talking about.”</p>
<p>Scottie very clearly describes the former signal.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;here’s a scary thought:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;warning, explicit content warning&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;the following is a view behind the mental door It provides a true look at how my mind really works&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;boy do I like salmonella.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;according to CNN, micky d’s and other fast food places have stopped serving tomatoes because of a salmonella outbreak.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hate tomatoes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good for salmonella&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t see things the way most people do. Some days I root for the germs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and for a while, I don’t gotta tell the burger flippers to leave out the tomatoes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;things are lookin up&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here’s a scary thought:</p>
<p><em><strong>warning, explicit content warning</strong></em></p>
<p><em>the following is a view behind the mental door It provides a true look at how my mind really works</em></p>
<blockquote><p>boy do I like salmonella.</p>
<p>according to CNN, micky d’s and other fast food places have stopped serving tomatoes because of a salmonella outbreak.</p>
<p>I hate tomatoes.</p>
<p>Good for salmonella</p>
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<p>I don’t see things the way most people do. Some days I root for the germs</p>
<p>and for a while, I don’t gotta tell the burger flippers to leave out the tomatoes</p>
<p>things are lookin up</p>
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		<title>By: LabDancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LabDancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“and not, as the gesture suggests, an attempt to get Bush to lower his voice so no one else heard it”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nice work otherwise but I’m not with you on the suggested interpretation of this gesture. Ive been involved as legal counsel in a lot of hearings in which there was a gag order imposed by someone wanting to maintain propriety or a statute or even a court order &amp; Ive found it one hellacious problem to stop those in the know - or who THINK they are - from passing on their insider take to the friends outside - &amp; conversely from getting those on the outside to stop from cajoling &amp; teasing it out. I’ve seen some success when I or some other lawyer has lowered the boom, but even then I suspect the participants say words to placate the suits then go right around the corner or get on the phone &amp; do it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In this case, as COS Card was in position to know how bad it all could be, what Bush knew or likely knew, the kind of role Spottie was to play in the process as “Official Believer &amp; Passer-On of the Gospel” &amp; the limitations to Spot’s skills &amp; to the role itself in the context of this kind of problem. Card did his best, but the Cheerleader in Chief was intent on getting the troop worked up to the task &amp; there’s only so much a person in Card’s position can do without his value in other assignments being diminished.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bear in mind that Card accompanied Algae to Ashcroft’s beside; why Card? I suggest because he’d been well-placed to see how poorly Algae performed under a lot less pressurized situations than the mission Cheney had goaded Bush into sending Algae out on - &amp; that given Algae’s performance before Congress &amp; the press during repeated appearances in the spring of 2007 on stuff than at least tangentially touched on that episode, it was very likely Card’s role first to keep Algae’s eyes focused on the mission, second to show diplomacy to the ailing Ashcroft, third to react appropriately to exigent circumstances, such as Comey showing up complete with FBI cavalry, fourth to sound retreat, fifth to report not just reliably but compellingly to the Bosses, &amp; sixth to focus the discussion to finding a way out of the morass. That Card left thereafter says a lot about what hed seen &amp; where he expected that might lead.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“and not, as the gesture suggests, an attempt to get Bush to lower his voice so no one else heard it”</p>
<p>Nice work otherwise but I’m not with you on the suggested interpretation of this gesture. Ive been involved as legal counsel in a lot of hearings in which there was a gag order imposed by someone wanting to maintain propriety or a statute or even a court order &amp; Ive found it one hellacious problem to stop those in the know &#8211; or who THINK they are &#8211; from passing on their insider take to the friends outside &#8211; &amp; conversely from getting those on the outside to stop from cajoling &amp; teasing it out. I’ve seen some success when I or some other lawyer has lowered the boom, but even then I suspect the participants say words to placate the suits then go right around the corner or get on the phone &amp; do it.</p>
<p>In this case, as COS Card was in position to know how bad it all could be, what Bush knew or likely knew, the kind of role Spottie was to play in the process as “Official Believer &amp; Passer-On of the Gospel” &amp; the limitations to Spot’s skills &amp; to the role itself in the context of this kind of problem. Card did his best, but the Cheerleader in Chief was intent on getting the troop worked up to the task &amp; there’s only so much a person in Card’s position can do without his value in other assignments being diminished.</p>
<p>Bear in mind that Card accompanied Algae to Ashcroft’s beside; why Card? I suggest because he’d been well-placed to see how poorly Algae performed under a lot less pressurized situations than the mission Cheney had goaded Bush into sending Algae out on &#8211; &amp; that given Algae’s performance before Congress &amp; the press during repeated appearances in the spring of 2007 on stuff than at least tangentially touched on that episode, it was very likely Card’s role first to keep Algae’s eyes focused on the mission, second to show diplomacy to the ailing Ashcroft, third to react appropriately to exigent circumstances, such as Comey showing up complete with FBI cavalry, fourth to sound retreat, fifth to report not just reliably but compellingly to the Bosses, &amp; sixth to focus the discussion to finding a way out of the morass. That Card left thereafter says a lot about what hed seen &amp; where he expected that might lead.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and btw, that senate race that chambliss might lose, it’s in Georgia&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;don’t get much deeped in the south than Georgia&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how’s that “southern strategy” working out now ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;gop, burn in hell (in lieu of RIP)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and btw, that senate race that chambliss might lose, it’s in Georgia</p>
<p>don’t get much deeped in the south than Georgia</p>
<p>how’s that “southern strategy” working out now ???</p>
<p>gop, burn in hell (in lieu of RIP)</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wouldn’t expect to see impeachments (indictments by the House) or trials and removals by the Senate.  Investigations, yes, but probably not styled as “impeachment” investigations.  I think they’ll be used to document that the messes Obama inherits are GOP in origin, to justify some of his reforms, and to use the laundry list of embarrassing facts to lower the GOP’s ability to obstruct.  And there will still be Bush Dogs to deal with.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush’s political appointees will be out early in 2009.  Obama can replace his military commanders with considerable discretion.  Judges will stay put, but be replaced with alacrity if the Dems have at least sixty votes.  Cheney moles in the permanent bureaucracy, by design, will be harder to contend with.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn’t expect to see impeachments (indictments by the House) or trials and removals by the Senate.  Investigations, yes, but probably not styled as “impeachment” investigations.  I think they’ll be used to document that the messes Obama inherits are GOP in origin, to justify some of his reforms, and to use the laundry list of embarrassing facts to lower the GOP’s ability to obstruct.  And there will still be Bush Dogs to deal with.  </p>
<p>Bush’s political appointees will be out early in 2009.  Obama can replace his military commanders with considerable discretion.  Judges will stay put, but be replaced with alacrity if the Dems have at least sixty votes.  Cheney moles in the permanent bureaucracy, by design, will be harder to contend with.</p>
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