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		<title>By: Quzi</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/08/is-fred-fielding-reading-emptywheel/comment-page-1/#comment-75597</link>
		<dc:creator>Quzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are 225 days left until Jan. 20, 2009. It took 181 to impeach Clinton. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe this deserves repeating, repeating and did I say repeating? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go Marcy!!! I’m ready for another EW “play-by-play” with Fitz. Bring on the hearings…shine the light. Thank you Conyers and Waxman…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are 225 days left until Jan. 20, 2009. It took 181 to impeach Clinton. </p>
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<p>I believe this deserves repeating, repeating and did I say repeating? </p>
<p>Go Marcy!!! I’m ready for another EW “play-by-play” with Fitz. Bring on the hearings…shine the light. Thank you Conyers and Waxman…</p>
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		<title>By: LabDancer</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/08/is-fred-fielding-reading-emptywheel/comment-page-1/#comment-75524</link>
		<dc:creator>LabDancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, Im still doing my evilparalleluniverse thing here on this thread, because I’m too old a head to catch up to blogging but this McClellan thing is worth exploiting if we can stop Cheerleader in Chief from using his constitutional pixie dust power of pardon to cover the escape of the beast back into its lair only to return bigger &amp; more virulent. b&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I’m sure you left this out in the interests of brevity- - because people like hmblDog should get off the fat backsides of their brains &amp; go back &amp; read all your hundreds of posts still available here &amp; at thenexthurrah &amp; go buy your book [Still a wizard of a work, I must say- - but we know Armitage &amp; Libby go waaaahaaay back in time, to Iran-contra when Libby acted as his enabling legal counsel when Armitage was trying finesse the Senate into leaving that fetid mess alone in considering his nomination for some position, &amp; likely back before that when both Libby &amp; Armitage were worming their way into guts of the American authoritarian beast, Libby through his having tied his fate to its head trainer, Wyoming Congressmen Cheney, &amp; Armitage through his having shed his regular commissions &amp; oaths &amp; all his integrity to secure a commission in the Army of the Beast.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Beast is no different than its chronicler, Novak: It will never die unless its fully exposed to sunlight. We must impeach now or suffer the inevitable consequences.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Im still doing my evilparalleluniverse thing here on this thread, because I’m too old a head to catch up to blogging but this McClellan thing is worth exploiting if we can stop Cheerleader in Chief from using his constitutional pixie dust power of pardon to cover the escape of the beast back into its lair only to return bigger &amp; more virulent. b</p>
<p>And I’m sure you left this out in the interests of brevity- &#8211; because people like hmblDog should get off the fat backsides of their brains &amp; go back &amp; read all your hundreds of posts still available here &amp; at thenexthurrah &amp; go buy your book [Still a wizard of a work, I must say- &#8211; but we know Armitage &amp; Libby go waaaahaaay back in time, to Iran-contra when Libby acted as his enabling legal counsel when Armitage was trying finesse the Senate into leaving that fetid mess alone in considering his nomination for some position, &amp; likely back before that when both Libby &amp; Armitage were worming their way into guts of the American authoritarian beast, Libby through his having tied his fate to its head trainer, Wyoming Congressmen Cheney, &amp; Armitage through his having shed his regular commissions &amp; oaths &amp; all his integrity to secure a commission in the Army of the Beast.</p>
<p>The Beast is no different than its chronicler, Novak: It will never die unless its fully exposed to sunlight. We must impeach now or suffer the inevitable consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: LabDancer</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/08/is-fred-fielding-reading-emptywheel/comment-page-1/#comment-75518</link>
		<dc:creator>LabDancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks; I feel this is put almost perfectly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Though…I’m increasingly finding myself hedging on McClellan despite the pathos in TV appearances, because I don’t see how any of the “information” in those appearances leave aside his weak ass book proves that his heart no longer belongs to baddies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By way of contrast, I remember how it felt when John Dean came out:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[I still think to favor Hendrik Hertzberg best caught the buzz in his New Yorker article “Dean’s First Day: I don’t have a post but it’s at p. 443 in his compendium “Politics”]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not at all like Comey, with his mysteriously coded deeper messages against a dramatic backdrop that provides room for rabid scum like Ashcroft to reclaim dignity &amp; pick up millions in blood money;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not impaired by any history of unrepetent public self-mutilation of the ego in the service of the lord that necessarily deflates the value of Spotties future testimony much as it did for Ari Fleischer;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not having followed a course of pre-hearing strategic slashing at his own wrists &amp; the carotids of others like with [heading outward from the centermost ring of Journalist Hell] Judy Judy Judy &amp; Novak &amp; Woodward &amp; Russert in effort to dilutes any efficacy out of their testimony;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not speaking thru the protective flaps of the orifice of another or others like that pestilential Kockrove did with his own Luskin &amp; his friendly plant in DOJ Corallo &amp; his media conduit NEWSWEEKS on “Johnny Nitro” Isikoff;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not while simultaneously flogging his tell “all” book like some Popeil Pocket Pedantry Poopinator;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but instead:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in the correct public context of responding with civic duty to a summons to appear before the Congress engaged in its oversight duties;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;on TV in front of his former friends &amp; future foes &amp; We the People;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;holding back nothing material;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;unsparing as to his own complicity;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;totally bereft of histrionics which might deflect from the hard metal of the facts;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;his confession fully organized to maximize comprehension; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;annotated for confirmation;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;footnoted for further exploitation in the service of the rule of law &amp; historical analysis;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp; has continued to follow the Great Horned American conservative beast right up it generic breakwaters in hunting down &amp; recording the full taxonomy &amp; DNA of the authoritarian right from its primal ooze;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp; paid the price immediately &amp; hard; &amp; has paid since; &amp; still pays.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Granting Dean is likely somewhat bigger brained &amp; more disciplined, I actually think Spottie the Bush Dog has so much more in the way of direct experience with the essence of this Cheerleader Presidency than Dean did in doing for Nixon the job his former protege Fielding is now doing Cheney &amp; Bush, if Spottie were to have chosen to head down Dean’s path we might actually get some of those ‘important things’ he wants to see happen done. There’s still time for Spottie, but it runs out in about a week, &amp; I’m not holding my breath.]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks; I feel this is put almost perfectly.</p>
<p>[Though…I’m increasingly finding myself hedging on McClellan despite the pathos in TV appearances, because I don’t see how any of the “information” in those appearances leave aside his weak ass book proves that his heart no longer belongs to baddies.</p>
<p>By way of contrast, I remember how it felt when John Dean came out:</p>
<p>[I still think to favor Hendrik Hertzberg best caught the buzz in his New Yorker article “Dean’s First Day: I don’t have a post but it’s at p. 443 in his compendium “Politics”]</p>
<p>not at all like Comey, with his mysteriously coded deeper messages against a dramatic backdrop that provides room for rabid scum like Ashcroft to reclaim dignity &amp; pick up millions in blood money;</p>
<p>not impaired by any history of unrepetent public self-mutilation of the ego in the service of the lord that necessarily deflates the value of Spotties future testimony much as it did for Ari Fleischer;</p>
<p>not having followed a course of pre-hearing strategic slashing at his own wrists &amp; the carotids of others like with [heading outward from the centermost ring of Journalist Hell] Judy Judy Judy &amp; Novak &amp; Woodward &amp; Russert in effort to dilutes any efficacy out of their testimony;</p>
<p>not speaking thru the protective flaps of the orifice of another or others like that pestilential Kockrove did with his own Luskin &amp; his friendly plant in DOJ Corallo &amp; his media conduit NEWSWEEKS on “Johnny Nitro” Isikoff;</p>
<p>not while simultaneously flogging his tell “all” book like some Popeil Pocket Pedantry Poopinator;</p>
<p>but instead:</p>
<p>in the correct public context of responding with civic duty to a summons to appear before the Congress engaged in its oversight duties;</p>
<p>on TV in front of his former friends &amp; future foes &amp; We the People;</p>
<p>holding back nothing material;</p>
<p>unsparing as to his own complicity;</p>
<p>totally bereft of histrionics which might deflect from the hard metal of the facts;</p>
<p>his confession fully organized to maximize comprehension; </p>
<p>annotated for confirmation;</p>
<p>footnoted for further exploitation in the service of the rule of law &amp; historical analysis;</p>
<p>&amp; has continued to follow the Great Horned American conservative beast right up it generic breakwaters in hunting down &amp; recording the full taxonomy &amp; DNA of the authoritarian right from its primal ooze;</p>
<p>&amp; paid the price immediately &amp; hard; &amp; has paid since; &amp; still pays.</p>
<p>Granting Dean is likely somewhat bigger brained &amp; more disciplined, I actually think Spottie the Bush Dog has so much more in the way of direct experience with the essence of this Cheerleader Presidency than Dean did in doing for Nixon the job his former protege Fielding is now doing Cheney &amp; Bush, if Spottie were to have chosen to head down Dean’s path we might actually get some of those ‘important things’ he wants to see happen done. There’s still time for Spottie, but it runs out in about a week, &amp; I’m not holding my breath.]</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/08/is-fred-fielding-reading-emptywheel/comment-page-1/#comment-75516</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Correction&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The meeting was set up in late June.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s important bc it happened after Libby had some meetings with Armitage and after Woodward spoke to Libby twice in June. IMO, Libby set Woodward up to ask Armi information Libby knew Armi knew. That explanation explains the actual content of the Woodward Armi conversation, which we have a copy of.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction</p>
<p>The meeting was set up in late June.</p>
<p>That’s important bc it happened after Libby had some meetings with Armitage and after Woodward spoke to Libby twice in June. IMO, Libby set Woodward up to ask Armi information Libby knew Armi knew. That explanation explains the actual content of the Woodward Armi conversation, which we have a copy of.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone seen Fred Hiatt’s latest piece of drivel over at the WaPo?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seen Fred Hiatt’s latest piece of drivel over at the WaPo?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: HmblDog</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/08/is-fred-fielding-reading-emptywheel/comment-page-1/#comment-75513</link>
		<dc:creator>HmblDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks maryo2!&lt;br /&gt;
I really believe that Armitage was used and that he’s clever enough to know how and by whom after the fact.&lt;br /&gt;
It’s unfortunate that he isn’t willing to explain publicly how he was maniplulated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks maryo2!<br />
I really believe that Armitage was used and that he’s clever enough to know how and by whom after the fact.<br />
It’s unfortunate that he isn’t willing to explain publicly how he was maniplulated.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesterfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesterfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;McCain is no gentleman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain is no gentleman.</p>
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		<title>By: maryo2</title>
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		<dc:creator>maryo2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Armitage read it in a classified State Department memo.  Read the wiki page on the Plame leak.  I knew Armitage learned from a classified memo.  What I didn’t know was:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Armitage sought an appointment with Novak in early June 2003 for the first time in over two years.  Timing there is brow-raising.&lt;br /&gt;
2. Armitage says that in 28 years of government work, he has never seen a CIA agent’s name in a memo, so he assumed she was not a covert agent, but just an analyst at a desk.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those two points makes it seem that Armitage was part of the OVP messaging team; like he was sent to do this and given cherry-picked information.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armitage read it in a classified State Department memo.  Read the wiki page on the Plame leak.  I knew Armitage learned from a classified memo.  What I didn’t know was:</p>
<p>1. Armitage sought an appointment with Novak in early June 2003 for the first time in over two years.  Timing there is brow-raising.<br />
2. Armitage says that in 28 years of government work, he has never seen a CIA agent’s name in a memo, so he assumed she was not a covert agent, but just an analyst at a desk.</p>
<p>Those two points makes it seem that Armitage was part of the OVP messaging team; like he was sent to do this and given cherry-picked information.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;McCain retains veto power over the gigantic trove of documents because of a gentleman’s agreement among Senators. It was explained here on EW or FDL a month or two ago, and I’m sorry but I don’t have a link. I think the agreement was made after the 2006 elections when the Democrats took control of Congress and therefore became chairs of all the committees. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That “agreement” needs badly to be revisited.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain retains veto power over the gigantic trove of documents because of a gentleman’s agreement among Senators. It was explained here on EW or FDL a month or two ago, and I’m sorry but I don’t have a link. I think the agreement was made after the 2006 elections when the Democrats took control of Congress and therefore became chairs of all the committees. </p>
<p>That “agreement” needs badly to be revisited.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t think so. I think they have minions who read FDL for them, forwarding anything that meets their filtering criteria. When it gets to the point where they have to open their own mail, they’ve fallen pretty far down the feeding chain.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think so. I think they have minions who read FDL for them, forwarding anything that meets their filtering criteria. When it gets to the point where they have to open their own mail, they’ve fallen pretty far down the feeding chain.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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