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		<title>By: greenbird4751</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/05/the-jag-dismisses-the-unitary-executive/comment-page-1/#comment-75090</link>
		<dc:creator>greenbird4751</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i want a busy weekend, too, trying to keep up with mama mama marcie.&lt;br /&gt;
i actually NEED a weekend, since getting frightened yesterday when fdl would not load for me. have i already said that fifty times?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want a busy weekend, too, trying to keep up with mama mama marcie.<br />
i actually NEED a weekend, since getting frightened yesterday when fdl would not load for me. have i already said that fifty times?</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/05/the-jag-dismisses-the-unitary-executive/comment-page-1/#comment-74923</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Typo. Thanks for catching it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo. Thanks for catching it.</p>
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		<title>By: emptywheel</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/05/the-jag-dismisses-the-unitary-executive/comment-page-1/#comment-74921</link>
		<dc:creator>emptywheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’re going to have a busy weekend.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re going to have a busy weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/05/the-jag-dismisses-the-unitary-executive/comment-page-1/#comment-74920</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the first quote:&lt;br /&gt;
“…an exceptionally board concept of “necessity.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is that a typo for “broad”, I hope? Or some kind of Freudian commentary?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the first quote:<br />
“…an exceptionally board concept of “necessity.” </p>
<p>Is that a typo for “broad”, I hope? Or some kind of Freudian commentary?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/05/the-jag-dismisses-the-unitary-executive/comment-page-1/#comment-74911</link>
		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[fuming because he has to work and can’t play with the documents]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[fuming because he has to work and can’t play with the documents]</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/05/the-jag-dismisses-the-unitary-executive/comment-page-1/#comment-74831</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rohmig’s observations are correct, but what he says should be obvious to any freshman lawyer.  That’s what make’s Yoo’s claims so radical, so chilling, so knowing and intentional.  Yoo claims that the president is a law unto himself, and where “necessary”, he can ignore any law for any purpose, any period of time.  The chosen “necessity” is war.  The chosen “war” is global “war”, from your bedroom to your chat room to the war room at President Merkin Muffley’s war room. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yoo claims that “customary international law” does not bind the president.  In Yoo’s fantasy world, no law binds the president, so why bother singling out one source of it?  Further, such law becomes “customary international law” only after it has already become universally respected and followed by the world’s principal states.  If something is customary international law, rather than a claimant for that status, it is binding on the US as a matter of its own practice.  The US has internalized its norms and behavior expectations and accepted the liability of sanctions for not following it, and other states act reasonably when they rely on the expectation that the US will follow that law. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yoo’s opinion, again conflates, misdefines and misuses accepted legal definitions and practices in order to produce his desired result.  The essence of bad lawyering and disrespect for the law, a position that depends for its success on its acceptance by the executive whose power he describes and on never being tested in public or by domestic or international courts.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ironically, one purpose of Yoo’s opinion is to promote the CheneyBush goal of ridding the world of restrictive international laws and alliances whose very purpose is to restrict the freedom of states to go to war, and to promote less destructive means of securing a share of the world’s resources, including peace.  Cheney seems to take literally the ironic motto adopted by the Strategic Air Command, the force designed to deliver a nuclear holocaust anywhere in the world — “Peace is Our Profession”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohmig’s observations are correct, but what he says should be obvious to any freshman lawyer.  That’s what make’s Yoo’s claims so radical, so chilling, so knowing and intentional.  Yoo claims that the president is a law unto himself, and where “necessary”, he can ignore any law for any purpose, any period of time.  The chosen “necessity” is war.  The chosen “war” is global “war”, from your bedroom to your chat room to the war room at President Merkin Muffley’s war room. </p>
<p>Yoo claims that “customary international law” does not bind the president.  In Yoo’s fantasy world, no law binds the president, so why bother singling out one source of it?  Further, such law becomes “customary international law” only after it has already become universally respected and followed by the world’s principal states.  If something is customary international law, rather than a claimant for that status, it is binding on the US as a matter of its own practice.  The US has internalized its norms and behavior expectations and accepted the liability of sanctions for not following it, and other states act reasonably when they rely on the expectation that the US will follow that law. </p>
<p>Yoo’s opinion, again conflates, misdefines and misuses accepted legal definitions and practices in order to produce his desired result.  The essence of bad lawyering and disrespect for the law, a position that depends for its success on its acceptance by the executive whose power he describes and on never being tested in public or by domestic or international courts.  </p>
<p>Ironically, one purpose of Yoo’s opinion is to promote the CheneyBush goal of ridding the world of restrictive international laws and alliances whose very purpose is to restrict the freedom of states to go to war, and to promote less destructive means of securing a share of the world’s resources, including peace.  Cheney seems to take literally the ironic motto adopted by the Strategic Air Command, the force designed to deliver a nuclear holocaust anywhere in the world — “Peace is Our Profession”.</p>
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		<title>By: JoFish</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It warms my heart to see that the JAG Corps is making a stand of some sort.  Military Judges never ever got fitness reports that commented on anything other than the fact that they got haircuts and showed up for work on a regular (or semi-regular) basis.  The chances of “Undue Command Influence” were considered just too great on decision making, hence most Military Judges had reached their “terminal” rank when they sat on the bench. Hard to promote someone who is not able to be objectively or subjectively evaluated.  Most MJ’s I knew were fine with that, they loved the law, loved the military and loved their jobs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It takes some backbone to stand up to these criminals in this administration, and certainly few have but I am proud that the JAGs have had their share of good men and women who stood up for the rule of law, even in the face of Undue Command Influence and the politicization of what should be &lt;strong&gt;by law&lt;/strong&gt; a non-political process.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It warms my heart to see that the JAG Corps is making a stand of some sort.  Military Judges never ever got fitness reports that commented on anything other than the fact that they got haircuts and showed up for work on a regular (or semi-regular) basis.  The chances of “Undue Command Influence” were considered just too great on decision making, hence most Military Judges had reached their “terminal” rank when they sat on the bench. Hard to promote someone who is not able to be objectively or subjectively evaluated.  Most MJ’s I knew were fine with that, they loved the law, loved the military and loved their jobs.</p>
<p>It takes some backbone to stand up to these criminals in this administration, and certainly few have but I am proud that the JAGs have had their share of good men and women who stood up for the rule of law, even in the face of Undue Command Influence and the politicization of what should be <strong>by law</strong> a non-political process.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I question whether this theory would ultimately prevail in either the U.S. courts or in any international forum. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;though the supreme court &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be in the president’s pocket, there is NO WAY an “international court” could possibly be bound by yoo’s RIDICULOUS “interpretation and there is NO question soldiers acting on those orders WOULD be convicted if their only defense was “the president ordered me to do it”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no question about the outcome of that defense&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I question whether this theory would ultimately prevail in either the U.S. courts or in any international forum. </p>
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<p>though the supreme court <i>might</i> be in the president’s pocket, there is NO WAY an “international court” could possibly be bound by yoo’s RIDICULOUS “interpretation and there is NO question soldiers acting on those orders WOULD be convicted if their only defense was “the president ordered me to do it”</p>
<p>no question about the outcome of that defense</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;is there a parallel set of memos from the CIA? while the JAG lawyers were warning the DOD, what were the CIA lawyers telling their folks?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there a parallel set of memos from the CIA? while the JAG lawyers were warning the DOD, what were the CIA lawyers telling their folks?</p>
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		<title>By: BoxTurtle</title>
		<link>http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/06/05/the-jag-dismisses-the-unitary-executive/comment-page-1/#comment-74653</link>
		<dc:creator>BoxTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What…you mean Bush CAN’T legally do everything Cheney tells him to do? I’m sure it’s a crime for even SUGGESTING such a weakening of America. If not, it should be. *snark*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Boxturtle (Won’t support “unitary executive” unless I’M the executive)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What…you mean Bush CAN’T legally do everything Cheney tells him to do? I’m sure it’s a crime for even SUGGESTING such a weakening of America. If not, it should be. *snark*</p>
<p>Boxturtle (Won’t support “unitary executive” unless I’M the executive)</p>
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