Thanks to BayStateLibrul for pointing out this provocative comment from Patrick Fitzgerald after yesterday's Rezko verdict:
The White House Rasputin, Karl "The Architect" Rove, also was mentioned in the trial, as was former House Speaker Dennis "Don't Ask Me About My Land Deal" Hastert, alleged to have been part of an effort by the bipartisan Illinois Combine to get rid of Fitzgerald. To demonstrate their kinship, Cellini and Rezko flew out to Washington on a play date and visited a White House reception with President Bush, where Kjellander joined them.
Later in the Rezko trial, two witnesses said that Rezko told them not to worry about the criminal investigation, because the Republicans—Rove and Kjellander—would get rid of Fitzgerald. Hastert would install a friendly federal puppy who wouldn't bother the Combine, according to the testimony. "The federal prosecutor will no longer be the same federal prosecutor," testified Elie Maloof, a Rezko associate who is now a cooperating witness.
And a state pension board lawyer who has already pleaded guilty told grand jurors that Cellini told him "Bob Kjellander's job is to take care of the U.S. attorney."
The Illinois Republican Party holds its own convention this week in Decatur. The party establishment, which has long been cozy with the Daley Democrats at City Hall, has done little or nothing to rid the Illinois GOP of Kjellander and Cellini influence.
"If I owe a response [about the putsch to remove him from his job], I owe it to Congress, first," Fitzgerald said when asked about all this after the verdict. [my emphasis]
Well, now that you mention it, Fitz, I seem to recall that Congress did ask you questions about this issue--questions that you obliquely passed on because of an ongoing criminal trial.
But that's not the version of the "what if you got fired" question that I find most interesting. Rather, there's a question that asks specifically if Fitzgerald became aware of efforts to fire him during the course of the CIA Leak investigation. Fizgerald refuses to answer ... because of the ongoing Rezko case.
[snip]
During the CIA leak investigation, were you aware of any conversations that you might be asked to resign? If so please describe all such conversations, including the substance of the conversations, when they occurred, and the names of those who participated.
I do not know if the referenced account of events is correct or not.
As to whether I was aware during the relevant time period of the investigation that I might be asked to resign, I will respectfully decline to discuss matters currently at issue in a trial ongoing in the Northern District of Illinois.
Fitzgerald is referring, of course, to the multiple times during the Rezko trial when a witness has testified that Rezko and Bob Kjellander talked about having Rove fire Fitzgerald to scuttle the investigation into Chicago corruption. But that's not, of course, what HJC asked him--they asked him about the CIA Leak case, and they made a reference specifically to coverage of the USA Purge.
Let's see. Fitz "respectfully decline[s] to discuss matters currently at issue in a trial ongoing." The trial is over. And on the day the trial ends, Fitz says, "I owe Congress" a response about Kjellander's and Rove's efforts to get him fired???
I'm reading that message loud and clear, Chairman Conyers. Are you?
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Turdblossom is going to rue the day that he started the idle in your face chit-chat about this matter in the media.
-G
ouch. easy there, big hoo.
Time for another emptywheel video interview.
holy rejoinder batgirl !!!
Quick OT.
I sure am looking forward to a summer of “Breaking News” bon mots on every latest movement in the Guantanimo kangaroo court.
MSNBC just broke in with “KSM has asked for the death penalty, updates to follow”.
Great.
-G
Wonder if that was before, during, or after they held him head under water.
GOOD MORNING MARCY!
Our golden girl! Woo Hoo. We’re all sitting here, tails wagging in anticipation. Who has the ball?
Is the death penalty for the judge that they fired or a defendant? I can’t be sure from what you posted. Thanks. tee hee
So, I just called Chairman Conyers’s office and retailed EW’s (and Pat Fitzgerald’s) messages — w/ FDL reference. Careful staffer said that she took it all down; would pass it on to the Congressman.
No harm in a few more calls on the subject, I imagine. 202.224.3121.
Spell check time- his head
i sorta liked the earlier version, but then…
Maybe he’ll tell the true story of Rove running back to the grand jury and recanting his perjury on the Plame case. What a sweet deal for Rove that was. Perjure oneself five times, obstruct a federal investigation, then get a do over while the indictment is being drawn up.
Pardons anyone? Looks like Bush is going to have a full pack on his hands come December.
Hooked on Phonics obviously did not work for me.
Looking around the site here - whoosh, EW, you’re busy today. You gonna make us a cat’s cradle with all these threads. Oh My! *wag wag wag*
emptywheel, or anyone else with an answer on this kinda o/t
from the ‘JAG Dismisses the Unitary Executive’ post -
why is this curious ? I believe you just that I am woefully behind on this story
Is it really FITZMAS?
Thanks Viveca “Big Mouth” Novack.
-G
Great post. Rove certainly seems to have problems: Multiple fired attorneys (one with a book out), Fitzgerald, Siegleman prosecution, McClellan openning the door to look at the Plame outing, refusing to respond to a subpoena, loyal Bushies beginning to tell all, and the risk that someone like Gonzalez would plea bargain and sell him out.
I suspect that Rove is not sleeping all that well anymore, especially since January will cancel all the get-out-of-jail-cards.
why yes zuzu, and every time a new thread is posted, a gooper gets a target letter
emptywheel is BushCo’s worst nightmare and that nightmare is getting very real for them
Add to your nice list a rapidly mending Democratic Party, and I’ll be celebrating indeed.
Good news all around.
OK I have a question. Delving back into my memory database—when Fitz gave his closing press conference on the Libby trial I believe he was asked if there was anything else to come and he responded something to the effect of “not at this time.” I may be wrong with that. Did he leave a little crack in the door that might reopen any parts of the investigation should there be more information coming out?
If so, would Scotty’s book and other various tidbits coming out be enough to open things up again?
Now that Rezko is over might Fitz have an opening in his schedule to get back on this?
Can I dare to dream it so?
Quick! Someone erase Parahooay on all the maps stat!
Absolutely; the more the merrier the more letter/faxes he gets. Trickle becomes a flood.
I prefer faxing, so just fired up the home fax machine- time to send Conyers a little note.
John Conyers DC office fax #- (202) 225-0072
one of many free internet fax service providers
marcy, do you or jane have the ear of conyers?
if so, I believe a call might be in order
my guess is that they are already on this.
BooYa!
Hey Rev. You’re sittin’ there with fingers crossed too, aren’t ya.
You dastardly liberal Rev, you. *G*
Rasputin in the dock? I’ll take Colonel Mustard in the Parlor with a pipe if that happens…Cheney will never let Rove get anywhere near Congress.
Hell, if we can’t impeach the fuckers, can we get President Obama to extradite them to The Hague to stand trial for War Crimes? At the very least?
Marcy. You are spitting nails this morning.
Baystate.. Thanks for pointing out that Fitz hit the ball back in Congress’s court. Damn good news
Got to get back to the fields and also tar a leaking roof.
Can’t wait to catch up with you fdl patriots later
thanks will spread the word
longing for the good old days of live blogging the trial with a gabbly chat on the margin.
Yep. fingers crossed—and a few other things too.
Any of these people who makes a public statement regarding “owing Congress” needs to be pulled in and questioned immediately. Very bad thing to “owe Congress”! me thinks.
Me and Conyers go all the way to, um, Saturday, when we were shared our hopes that mI’s delegates would be seated. Since that time, the Wings have won the Stanley Cup.
MI’s hoping for a trifecta this week.
Perhaps he’ll sleep better when his cell mate in federal prison tucks him in at night.
thanks Jo, I’ll pay for the bricks, supply the mortar, and if need be, build the wall to stand those fuckers in front of.
Adie, I’m holding out for the Frisbee(tm) myself.
Be careful on that roof, y’hear! I hate that kinda project.
We’ll all be on point here, cookies balanced on noses until Marcy says, “NOW”.
Oh, that’s just delicious. You’re making my day!
Here’s hoping that I’ll be reading a tersely worded letter from Mr. Conyers shortly to Mr. Fitzgerald (instead of the horrible project I’m trying, and failing, to work on…)
Yes we can…
OMG we luv u so! Have a good day, hon.
OT: I don’t know if anybody has raised this yet, but the long awaited Phase IIb (or whatever, I can’t keep up) of the SSCI report is out (h/t Laura Rozen).
Something totally bizarre is dropped in to the report without any comment at all, as far as I can tell. On pg. 25 of the report, it says that the second Ghorbanifar meeting (the one in Paris) was set up by two Middle East experts from the OVP who ran into Harold Rhode in Istanbul, Turkey at a conference in June, 2003. No names, no WTF about how they got involved, no mention that the OVP was involved in a lot of weird things in June 2003.
Technically speaking (and as you’ve pointed out on numerous occasions the care/specificity with which Fitzgerald speaks), he said “If I owe a response” - not I owe a response.
Marci,
I am worried about the Rezko-Obama connection. Are you you? Should I not be?
I’m glad someone else picked up on the December 3, 2003 White House holiday party. Kjellander, Rezko and others were there at the invite of Rove. Inside the White House complex. Sure, there are dozens of holiday parties at that time, but they saw Bush only for the photo op. The real value to these guys was access to the others who were there. Like Rove.
Let me re-run an old comment from an April EW post:
Katie Couric on the CBS News? had a piece on the Rezko trial and she was able to mention Obama, no reference to Rezko’s Republican and White House connections. At the end of the piece she said that Obama was not implicated.
Thanks Marcy for always keeping on top of this. What I wouldn’t give for Fitzgerald to be able to really tell the whole story on Rove (and Cheney too for that matter) but I know how cautious he is (and rightfully so). Still, any hint that he is open to discussing these matters should be jumped on immediately. Let the sun shine in before the November elections.
OT, but talking about the elections…
‘If you’re going to mess up someone’s vote, it’s probably a bad idea to do it to one of the nation’s more vocal critics of election shenanigans. After voting in California’s statewide primary on Tuesday, election integrity journalist Brad Friedman checked his ballot to find that 4 of the 12 races he voted in had been flipped.’
http://www.truthdig.com/eartot.....wrong_guy/
Thank you Marcy and thank you Patrick Fitzgerald.
(now come on Conyers!)
btw, from the newsbox:
Long- awaited???
Phase 2 via Jello Jay.
Talk about an understatement!
o/t
the news is pouring out like it’s friday afternoon - along with the SSCI II Report and Fitz -
FCC Chair’s Chief of Staff in a world of hurt
and from the Commonwealth of Virginia - Retiring Senator and Congressman refuse to endorse GOP Senate hopeful
. . .the great unraveling continues apace
Just set up a working thread on it. Thanks!
We DO love our timelines here at Marcy’s place.
I know when I called conyers office a while back congratulating them on refusing telcom immunity the secretary was all giddy and guaranteed to me conyers would get my message
I think calls are good and comming from you might even be better
g’luck
And we finally get Rockefeller IV to put it out. Why now?
Oh, trust me, I’ll do my part to make sure Chairman Conyers gets this message.
Marcy’s being quoted on Think Progress. Smart of them to know where to find the best info.
Bluetoe2 #47:
plus
choochmac #48:
It’s gettin really hard to hold that cookie without having brain expload.
*whine*
NICE!
it SURELY needs highlighting;
What?
Over fifty comments and not one
FITZ!
?
Fixed that for ya.
I seemed to have missed your alert– was too busy picking my jaw off the floor.
jeepers.
I live in hope that we can go back to starting all posts with Fitz—because there’s a reason to do so.
I want to emphasize;
that they KNEW AT THE TIME were NOT supported by the evidence
tranlation
THEY LIED AND NOW WE ARE TELLING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, THEY LIED YOU INTO WAR
can’t get more plain that that, not one bit more plain
As do I.
I Hear Ya !!!
It was nice to give it a rest for awhile. Now it feels fresh. It’s time.
Oops! Somehow gobbled cookie just now. Could I have another?
Say, they did fix the space station’s potty, right? *crossing legs and sitting at attention*
We did know that they were full of shit. That’s a given’. Source please.
What a day! How long have we been waiting for this?
this is hot. Obama getting specific
DNC bans lobbyist money
By NEDRA PICKLER and JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writers 2 minutes ago
NEW YORK - In his first order of business as his party’s presumed presidential nominee, Barack Obama is instructing the Democratic National Committee to adopt his policy against accepting donations from federal lobbyists or political action committees.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....rats_money
###Wondered when Obama or Clinton would take on the commitment that Edwards made early early on.
i will not drag down the level of discourse…
i will not drag down the level of discourse…
i will not drag down the level of discourse…
…
OMG! Back in a sec!?!
OH BABY
The extradition dog won’t hunt, Jo. We aren’t participants in the Internation Criminal Court, thankyousoveryf*ckingmuch Preznit Boosh. So no extradition from here to Den Haag. More is the pity.
What is not at all clear is that Darth Cheney has the power to keep Rover away from Congress. If Conyers chooses (as he damned well ought to) to exercise Congress’s inherent contempt powers, Rover is a dead duck. Hope you like the little cell in the basement of the Capitol, Karl.
BC
If there were gonna be handcuffs involved- Fitz would be talking to a grand jury- not to congress…
Fitz has never had the stomach to indict Rove apparently.
HEY! Woo Hoo!
where’s that fella who trashed me the other day for daring to have faith in Obama’s integrity? fortunately for him/her, my short-term memory is doing what it’s supposed to in old biddies, right on schedule…
- maybe for the same reason McCaskill was at ease using “McBush” this morning -
behavioral - they are pack animals after all, and clearly not as smart. maybe it took this tsunami of a primary season (voter interest) and all the disclosures of late(esp McClelland’s, he is afterall, one of ‘them’) to give them enough warm and fuzzy to come out
or maybe those creatures once identified as cheney/nsa moles are no longer in place or perceived as faltering
or maybe I just need some more coffee
You gotta love the idea of Obama “instructing” the DNC - I think there’s a new Big Dog in town and he’s looking good.
Have you ever read Breslin’s “How the Good Guys Finally Won” about the Watergate investigation and hearings? He retells the situation where the committee hired these people to do nothing but take the facts, which had all been written with dates on 3×5 cards and line them up in date order..that’s when the investigators started to see the whole picture. Time Lines Rule!!
Way OT:
Hillary sent a letter to her supporters last night that says what she should have said Tuesday night. Oh well, better a little late (Saturday is the day) than a lot late (in Denver in August.)
The healing starts with Obama supporters. There are a lot of upset Clinton supporters — think death-in-the-family grief, folks. So, no more nasty things about Hillary Clinton and her supporters. Here’s for starters: Hillary ran a great race, it’s great that we had two good candidates to choose from, and a shame only one can be the nominee.
BC
I believe one of those “people” was a young Hillary Rodham
if that includes AIPAC and NRA I’m all for it. Not sure the DNC has the stomach for it though.
isn’t that some sorta equivalent concept to a main character declaring [the monster is NOT under the bed because i say so] during a horror movie?
oh pshaw! is this another fugue? was that theme #2 or ??? i’m lost, prof.
*raises hand*
True, very true.
From your link..Isn’t that Howard Deans spot?
Hmmmm, just where is Barak going to put Howard?
‘Obama strategist Paul Tewes, who ran the Illinois senator’s successful Iowa campaign, is taking over the DNC and was at party headquarters Thursday meeting the staff.’
New Clusterfuck poll out from CBS shows GW Clusterfuck with a 25% job approval rating- a couple of points higher than the 23% rating Zogby pulled for him a week or so ago..Yep boys and girls- he’s still sinking.
you may just have earned another cuppa, if ya wants it, but you’re sharp as a tack on what ya got, imo. ;->
That explains why no one from the brave Bush family is willing to serve. Being so righteous, they would not participate in a lie. The Preznit must have told them at the start that it was all a big trick.
((((Quakergirl))))
I think the second subject is my 77…
perris;
As you know, politicians NEVER ‘lie’, they merely ‘mis-speak’ (snark).
Until the word, ‘LIE’ (as in ‘Die for Lies’) is EXPLICITLY used and the, um, … ‘investigators’ ACT as if lying is WRONG and, quite possibly a CRIME, in certain instances, ‘it’ is NOT sufficiently ‘plain’ …
Lies, especially LIES of THIS magnitude, MUST HAVE CONSEQUENCE.
We shall se, perris, we shall see …
Impeachment?
Are we there yet?
And that’s before this Phase II came out and before it became clearer to the rest of the world that Bush authorized Cheney to order Libby to leak Plame’s identity.
If Rove was threatening to fire Fitz to get him off the case- it’s pretty clear obstruction- can’t get much clearer—so why doesn’t Fitz indict his sorry ass?
Hear! Hear!
Dead weights have a tendency to do that.
(evil , wicked *G*)
SWEET
now as far as mccain “inviting obama to town hall meetings”
that’s a good move on mccain’s part, he is trying to “take the lead” and seem “more in charge” then obama
obama has to come up with a counter offer and instead of “invite” mccain he must “call for” mccain to accept the counter offer
Yeah- one wonders how many of the die hard 23% are aware of those things you mention.
OT, maybe, Raw Story has a developing story on 2 Federal prosecutors being investigated for political prosecutions.
Once tyranies start to crumble they fall apart in no time at all (the USSR, the Ceausescu regime, …..). This is just another example
I still have smoke coming out my ears when I think of Fitz giving Rover what was it- FIVE interviews to change his perjury—-the fucker should be in jail.
The train is leaving the station.
All ABOOOOOOOOOARD!
Already done, perris.
Obama has apparently proposed meetings around the nation structured after the Lincoln-Douglas debates. I’m lighting St Jude candles hoping McCain will ignore his handlers and accept. It’s a format tailor-made to show John Mc
CainBushSame at his worst.BC
Ohhhh. Yes! Thanks much, in every which a way. Seriously.
We must work together and patch up this poor old wounded party.
p.s., u do know the rest of the pups think we’re nuts with our musique shenanigans, don’t ya. heh.
it’s taking far too long for this tyrany to crumble, these wheels have barely begun to turn and there is nobody held to account
let’s cross fingers
I presume those are Rove’s two “girls” who prosecuted Siegelman.
May well be OPR finally got to investigate that stuff.
GOT to admire their organization skilz…they are fast indeed
this is gonna be fun
Obama and Coburn were about to introduce a “clean government” bill opening up all bidding processes to public scrutiny. McCain called Obama and asked to be one of the original co-sponsors. I think that qualifies.
Thank you for your steady reminders to pause each day.
I do hope she’s aware of today’s progress. ;->
The Bushlicans’ shenanigans sound a little like the classic connect-the-dots game: Colonel Mustard did it (what exactly do you mean by “it”) in the library with a candlestick.
second that.
That was my thought also but with this bunch it might be another unrelated under the radar political prosecution. Fieger in MI?
I can’t control what others think …
or, as a reasonably wise philosopher who wasn’t freebasing coke when his DC-3 went down said, “You can’t please everyone, You’ve got to please yourself.”
BC
Where is the video interview of Conyers you refer to? I’ve been away from my computer for about a week and missed some stuff.
e dub you are probably correct - but my first impulse was to grab the rosary in one hand, and the magic dragic blogging lite in the other - incanting all the while . . .please be Alice Fisher, please be Alice Fisher
what a room full of roses for a certain foul mouthed femblogger that would be!
As someone pointed out earlier make your calls to Conyers
And now it appears that while Fitzy was lettin Rover get away scott free with lying to a grand jury– he was probably aware that Rove was tryin to fire him…
Untouchable eh?
I keep her in mind. She was fighting for all of this so the least we can do is carry on the fight.
you rang ? *g*
Obama did make a counter-offer. “Just call me Lincoln, McSame.”
Will a Fed Prosecutor actually set a snare?
Whitehouse just gave a scathing speech on the Senate floor regarding the Senate report….Wow…I hope someone caught it on tape. Just short of calling treason.